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  • clickhappy
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    • Mar 2004
    • 4027

    #1

    Do ugly, amateur looking sites convert?

    I'm debating hiring a designer, or doing a site layout myself for a paysite.
    I do it myself then it be the ugliest pay site on the planet. but would that sell?
  • Doc911
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    • Feb 2004
    • 3695

    #2
    sometimes an amateur site sells great if it looks like an amateur did it. It all depends on your traffic sources though.


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    • Zerof8
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2004
      • 1245

      #3
      well, if its a solo site it can. People think the girl did it and dont care as much. If its anything else it just makes it look like another bs site. Just my opinion though.
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      • thaifan99
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        • Jul 2003
        • 3029

        #4
        It can work.........need a bit of luck though
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        • WarChild
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          • Jan 2003
          • 17263

          #5
          I've had more luck with plain looking run-of-the-mill girls on Amateur sites than I ever have with knock out babes.
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          • Morgan
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2002
            • 10520

            #6
            some of the most successful paysites have been plain and simple.

            look at cumfiesta.com or even their new site, whatever it's called... simple does sell.
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            • zentz
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              • Nov 2003
              • 8062

              #7
              yup , with amateur traffic it would convert
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              • spooky181
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 2951

                #8
                Ugly is better for amateur.

                I had a couple of designers do my site but they just didn't convert, so I had a crack at it myself and lo and behold the signups started rolling in.. Check it out. www.cheatingxxxwife.com

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                • clickhappy
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 4027

                  #9
                  Originally posted by spooky181
                  Ugly is better for amateur.

                  I had a couple of designers do my site but they just didn't convert, so I had a crack at it myself and lo and behold the signups started rolling in.. Check it out. www.cheatingxxxwife.com
                  thats actually really nice compared to what I can do. I cant even do that splicing images then refitting them back into table cells trick.

                  this would be the maximum of what I can do
                  http://www.wellhungstudios.com/vistor2.html
                  would something designed like that sell?

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                  • spooky181
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2951

                    #10
                    Originally posted by clickhappy
                    thats actually really nice compared to what I can do. I cant even do that splicing images then refitting them back into table cells trick.

                    this would be the maximum of what I can do
                    http://www.wellhungstudios.com/vistor2.html
                    would something designed like that sell?
                    I had to get someone to slice them for me as I had no idea either how to do it. Your content also is real amateur and your tour highlights that and would convert better than a slick design job.

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                    • Dugmor
                      The Traffic Cowboy
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 7687

                      #11
                      That was one of the problems when we did www.cutiescash.com. It was impossible to hire a designer cuase all they wanted to do was show off and use as many fonts and colors as possible.

                      We had to underdesign to get the right feel of real amateurs. The sites are basic and done to look basic. They sell like crazy and it shows that you do not need some crazy designs !

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                      • MaDalton
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 39861

                        #12
                        look at Karups or ATK - and no one can deny that those sites work...
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                        • clickhappy
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                          • Mar 2004
                          • 4027

                          #13
                          [QUOTE=Dugmor]That was one of the problems when we did www.cutiescash.com. It was impossible to hire a designer cuase all they wanted to do was show off and use as many fonts and colors as possible.

                          We had to underdesign to get the right feel of real amateurs. The sites are basic and done to look basic. They sell like crazy and it shows that you do not need some crazy designs !

                          you run 2 affiliate programs now?

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                          • AdultNex
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 8985

                            #14
                            Quiet's site makes a couple bucks.

                            So amateur-looking sites do indeed convert.

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                            • camcutie
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                              • Oct 2004
                              • 817

                              #15
                              Originally posted by clickhappy
                              I'm debating hiring a designer, or doing a site layout myself for a paysite.
                              I do it myself then it be the ugliest pay site on the planet. but would that sell?
                              Good question ClickHappy...my husband and I build our own websites and do very well with sign ups producing at least ten per day. We also build all the camcutie girls websites together and they do well also depending on how much effort they put in to the marketing we teach them. It has been our experience that the more amateur looking style does the best having tried marketing both pro and amateur type websites. Here is a linkt to all the camcutie girls sites including two of me http://www.camcutie.com/friends.htm We are not proffesional webmasters by no means.

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                              • clickhappy
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 4027

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                look at Karups or ATK - and no one can deny that those sites work...
                                wow great examples. i forgot about those. thanks

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                                • BVF
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                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 13975

                                  #17
                                  yes they do! See sig.

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                                  • AaronM
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                                    • Oct 2001
                                    • 46917

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by WarChild
                                    I've had more luck with plain looking run-of-the-mill girls on Amateur sites than I ever have with knock out babes.

                                    Yep. Most people prefer girls that they consider to be attainable by them.

                                    Perfect 10's don't do it for most but they can relate to a 5, 6, or 7 any day of the week.

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                                    • AaronM
                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                      • Oct 2001
                                      • 46917

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AdultNex
                                      Quiet's site makes a couple bucks.

                                      So amateur-looking sites do indeed convert.

                                      Quiet's content is anything but amateur though.

                                      Apples and oranges here.

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                                      • Wizzo
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                                        • Nov 2000
                                        • 15224

                                        #20
                                        There's a real art to making a GOOD ugly paysite, and if you do it right it will convert like crazy...
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                                        • Donny
                                          As you wish...
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 13754

                                          #21
                                          Take a guess at which tour converts better for the same site:

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                                          http://tour1.nakedcollegegirls.tv/

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                                          • bigdog
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 6964

                                            #22
                                            Having two tours is best. A ugly one and a nice one. So webmasters can choose which one best fits their traffic

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                                            • 2HousePlague
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                                              • Jul 2004
                                              • 14572

                                              #23
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                                              • Donny
                                                As you wish...
                                                • May 2002
                                                • 13754

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by bigdog
                                                Having two tours is best. A ugly one and a nice one. So webmasters can choose which one best fits their traffic
                                                It's ironic that we posted at nearly the same time. Look at the post right above yours.

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                                                • Barefootsies
                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 42635

                                                  #25
                                                  Stick with the cliche..

                                                  "Keep it simple stupid"

                                                  and you should be good to go with the right blend of marketing, and targeting.

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                                                  • Far-L
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                                                    • Feb 2002
                                                    • 6065

                                                    #26
                                                    Our site has a pretty "ugly" tour and converts pretty darn swell...



                                                    take a look at the Homegrown Video tour. Selling amateur, whether for a single girl site or a megasite like ATK of Homegrown Video, is all about the reality/honesty/straightforwardness of the pitch.. "what you see is what you get" so whether it is slickly done or very sloppy it not as important as that, imo.
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                                                    • defresto
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                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 317

                                                      #27
                                                      A good adult designer would make an amateur-looking website that would convert better. I would rather make 10 designs and test all of them.

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                                                      • venus
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 3112

                                                        #28
                                                        when it comes to amateur sites, its not the design that sells, its the model.
                                                        If you have cookie cutter looking site, then you will not sel las good, if its unique, shows personality, good looking girl, then the site can be pretty bad and still get sells.
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