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  • Fucksakes
    Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
    • Dec 2003
    • 7567

    #1

    my worst ratios ever, help me.

    I went from 1:100 and now im doing 1:2200 and im only trying harder.. when do I give up

    anyone recommend any sponsors worth my time.
  • VIPimp
    Marina WILL have my babies!
    • May 2003
    • 9234

    #2
    If you like to try out my program, msg me and I will see what will work best with your traffic. I'm sure you will do alot better than 1:2200

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    • V_RocKs
      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
      • Nov 2003
      • 32448

      #3
      Gas price is rising... People are tapped out spending all of their money on Memorial Day Weekend and the Fed is raising interest rates...

      Yeah, people don't have a lot of porn money right now. Welcome to summertime.

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      • Fucksakes
        Shit... Fuck! What the Hell?
        • Dec 2003
        • 7567

        #4
        Originally posted by V_RocKs
        Gas price is rising... People are tapped out spending all of their money on Memorial Day Weekend and the Fed is raising interest rates...

        Yeah, people don't have a lot of porn money right now. Welcome to summertime.

        i blame my traffic being lower because of summer, but my ratios are still there, ppl are clicking through.. what gives.

        summer or not, why do you surf porn but don't buy?

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        • CaptainHowdy
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Dec 2004
          • 94034

          #5
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          • Juilan
            Sultan of Swing
            • Feb 2004
            • 15141

            #6
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            • Sly
              Let's do some business!
              • Sep 2004
              • 31378

              #7
              Originally posted by V_RocKs
              Gas price is rising... People are tapped out spending all of their money on Memorial Day Weekend and the Fed is raising interest rates...

              Yeah, people don't have a lot of porn money right now. Welcome to summertime.
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              • amateurcanada
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 3766

                #8
                summer sloooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwddddddddddooooooooowwwwwwn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. THe internal traffic to my sites is much higher but lower sales. However partner traffic converts exactly the same.

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                • V_RocKs
                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 32448

                  #9
                  My traffic is up about 16% but my conversions went from 1:500 to 1:1200... It did this last year right after gas went up, summer began and the Fed. announced higher rates coming...

                  By July people relaxed and became acclimated to the current economic climate and things were back to normal..

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                  • David - PG
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 767

                    #10
                    Just don't give up. There is money out there, just keep trying new things.

                    Pick different sponsors (3-4) and keep sending them traffic for a few weeks. See what converts the best. Then shift the majority of your traffic to the #1 sponsor for the last 2 periods. Re-shuffle every 2 periods.
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                    • BluMedia
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 3973

                      #11
                      Today just might break our records for us. Currently our site http://www.brokestraightboys.com is converting at 1/94 for all traffic. Even if you don't promote us just change up sponsors until you find something that works for you.

                      Mark
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                      • Theo
                        HAL 9000
                        • May 2001
                        • 34515

                        #12
                        summer is excuse for shaving

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                        • David - PG
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 767

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                          summer is excuse for shaving
                          Then why is Amazon's 4th quarter always the strongest compared to the summer months? Consumers spend more during the winter than in the summer months, you can't just defy the facts.
                          perfectgonzo.com

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                          • Theo
                            HAL 9000
                            • May 2001
                            • 34515

                            #14
                            You forgot to mention a very large % of their total sales during the 4th quarter is done in a 10 days timeframe and of course this is due to Christmas holidays. There are significant differences between amazon and paysites which i'm sure you are aware of.

                            Let me reverse the question... have you experienced a drop in sales so far this month compared to May?

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                            • BIGTYMER
                              Junior Achiever
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 17066

                              #15
                              PayServe has some hot new sites for you to promote.

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                              • David - PG
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 767

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                Let me reverse the question... have you experienced a drop in sales so far this month compared to May?
                                Compared to May I can't tell yet, June is only 2 days old. Comparing last year's Summer months (July/August 2005) to Winter (November/December 2004) months I would say overall volume was down around 7-12%. Ask around other programs they will come up with similar numbers I am sure. Then again, there are always exceptions to the rule. Some affiliates might do better in some periods than in others. But overall you can not defy the rules of the market. The summer consumer is a weaker spender than the winter consumer. Christmas or not, this is part of marketing 101.

                                I might be mistaking you for somebody else, but why do always have to bring up the shaving myth?
                                perfectgonzo.com

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                                • polle54
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 4626

                                  #17
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                                  • Theo
                                    HAL 9000
                                    • May 2001
                                    • 34515

                                    #18
                                    You see, I won't deny a possible 7-12% sales drop as outcome of traffic drop. This doesn't explain why ratios go several times up accross many programs.

                                    As far "shaving myth" i guess you represent all aff. programs now right?

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                                    • gooddomains
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 10127

                                      #19
                                      the world is coming to an end

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                                      • bobby666
                                        boots are my religion
                                        • Nov 2005
                                        • 21765

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                        I went from 1:100 and now im doing 1:2200 and im only trying harder.. when do I give up

                                        anyone recommend any sponsors worth my time.
                                        oh, take totemcash, it converts 0:3479 for me

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                                        • mOrrI
                                          It's over there...
                                          • Nov 2004
                                          • 4208

                                          #21
                                          0:3479?!??!?!
                                          holy crap....

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                                          • Fabien
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 4789

                                            #22
                                            Yep signups sucks ass !
                                            Been online since late 96 and it's my worst stretch ever.

                                            Lots of things involved, summer, everything costs too much these days, shaving, too much freebies around, fucking trojan shit, people afraid to do online transactions etc....etc...etc....

                                            Fuck the net, let's start a religion instead $$$$$$$$ Plus we get to fuck all the chicks hehehehehehehehe

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                                            • David - PG
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 767

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                              You see, I won't deny a possible 7-12% sales drop as outcome of traffic drop. This doesn't explain why ratios go several times up accross many programs.
                                              Very simple. Small numbers (<50 signups a period) paired with the random nature of signups. That's what makes ratios jump up and down. 5 sales which might yield 1:1000 while with just a couple (random effect of small numbers) more or less signups ... the difference easily becomes 30-40%, which upon first glance looks like a huge difference.

                                              If signups we not random but instead if SIGNUPS WERE PREDICATABLE (!) ON ADULT TRAFFIC... then everybody would still pay per click.

                                              Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                              As far "shaving myth" i guess you represent all aff. programs now right?
                                              Nope, but I'm trying to use common sense that's all. I think it's a bit unfair that whenever somebody complains about bad ratios people love to bring out the shave argument. It's prudent to be critical about your business partners, but constantly assuming you're being cheated day and night won't do you any good.
                                              perfectgonzo.com

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                                              • mardigras
                                                Bon temps!
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 14194

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fabien
                                                fucking trojan shit
                                                I believe that is a much bigger deal than people realize.
                                                People who have the refcode redirect trojans don't see popups, have their computers slowing down, or notice anything else negative so they have no clue they're infected.
                                                .

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                                                • David - PG
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 767

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by mardigras
                                                  People who have the refcode redirect trojans don't see popups
                                                  Can you send me a code sample of such trojan? I would like to have it checked out by our programmers. [email protected]. Thanks.
                                                  perfectgonzo.com

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                                                  • HpicAnn
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 4319

                                                    #26
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                                                    • Bansheelinks
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                      • 6023

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                                      I went from 1:100 and now im doing 1:2200 and im only trying harder.. when do I give up

                                                      anyone recommend any sponsors worth my time.
                                                      are you using ccbill perhaps?

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                                                      • Antonio
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                        • 14136

                                                        #28


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                                                        • Theo
                                                          HAL 9000
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 34515

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by David - PG
                                                          Very simple. Small numbers (<50 signups a period) paired with the random nature of signups. That's what makes ratios jump up and down. 5 sales which might yield 1:1000 while with just a couple (random effect of small numbers) more or less signups ... the difference easily becomes 30-40%, which upon first glance looks like a huge difference.

                                                          If signups we not random but instead if SIGNUPS WERE PREDICATABLE (!) ON ADULT TRAFFIC... then everybody would still pay per click.

                                                          Nope, but I'm trying to use common sense that's all. I think it's a bit unfair that whenever somebody complains about bad ratios people love to bring out the shave argument. It's prudent to be critical about your business partners, but constantly assuming you're being cheated day and night won't do you any good.
                                                          David - PG, I don't disagree it's wrong to draw conclusions from low figures, but from the little I know about Fucksakes he's in position not to commit such newbie mistake.

                                                          It was fraud that made PPC model to vanish from the adult industry, not the predictability of it. That one never changed and a program owner should be in position to forecast the patterns of traffic in his sites assuming he can manage the quality, therefore payout accordingly. Occasionally I bring on table another form of fraud to serve as reminder because many aff. are not aware of the extend it takes.

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                                                          • darxoul
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2006
                                                            • 111

                                                            #30
                                                            If you read literally:
                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                            summer is excuse for shaving
                                                            it sounds really funny

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                                                            • HAPPYPEEKERS
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 7566

                                                              #31
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                                                              • Waveu6410
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2005
                                                                • 4038

                                                                #32
                                                                i forgot to check stats for a program that i hadn't checked in over a year when i noticed i was at 0:22,754

                                                                i dropped them like hot cakes!

                                                                sorry i won't mention who the program

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                                                                • czarina
                                                                  Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 10751

                                                                  #33
                                                                  People have other things comming up, so they save. But they will book mark things they find and like, and sign up after summer.

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                                                                  • Nasty
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                    • 1575

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                    summer is excuse for shaving
                                                                    heh, no shit, I have several sponsors whose conversions are the same all year round and I have others that take a big crap every june, go figure

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                                                                    • madawgz
                                                                      8.8.8.8
                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                      • 30509

                                                                      #35
                                                                      thats fucking insane, try changing your gallery or something
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                                                                      • oldtimer
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                                        • 250

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Think this "free hosted galleries" business model is pretty much a case of sponsors pissing in their own traffic pool. They are so intent on making better galleries than their competition, they have created a situation where there is not much incentive to buy porn anymore.

                                                                        In spite of the claims of "great conversions", you can often make more pointing adult names to a parking service now than you can sending traffic to sponsors. Thats why parking services are getting so popular with domain owners.
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                                                                        • NastyGodCash
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                                          • 239

                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • scottybuzz
                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 14799

                                                                            #38
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                                                                            • Porko
                                                                              SeeMyBucks.com
                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                              • 4014

                                                                              #39
                                                                              i just made a list with real ratios from tgp traffic, so maybe it help:
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                                                                              • Biggy2
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                • 1821

                                                                                #40
                                                                                18yearsold.com. and we got some new video stuff for melissa coming out that is also doing really well. hit me up.

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                                                                                • andrej_NDC
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                  • 7760

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by David - PG
                                                                                  Then why is Amazon's 4th quarter always the strongest compared to the summer months? Consumers spend more during the winter than in the summer months, you can't just defy the facts.
                                                                                  not everything is doing worse in the summer...you can't compare online porn and electronics and other stuff at amazon

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                                                                                  • OG LennyT
                                                                                    Wall Street Pimp
                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                    • 14345

                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • Tdog
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 2707

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Summer slowdown, happens every year.

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