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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #1

    So You Wanna Be A Big Shot Gonzo Porn Director?

    here's the brutal reality of shooting for the top gonzo porn studios. Tony T directs for Anabolic, one of the top selling gonzo studios in the biz.
    A TGP submitter makes more than these guys.

    According to Tony, his deal was to make movies with $23,000 budgets.

    "After ten movies from each company, you start getting a dollar a tape after the eleventh movie. For the first ten movies you don't make anything on them. But you have to wait six months until you start getting your dollar a tape; and the only money you make is whatever is left over from the budget. But you can look at my movies and tell from each scene how much was being spent, everyone's rate. All our scenes are three on one, two on one. The girls charge $1500, $1600. There's agency fees, locations, makeup. Each guy is $600, $700. I've made movies taking money out of my pocket. Balls deep. They cannot say I did anything bad for the company."
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  • fl_prn_str
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2004
    • 5736

    #2
    Those are LA adult performer rates.......rates vary between markets.

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    • fl_prn_str
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      • Aug 2004
      • 5736

      #3
      Last edited by fl_prn_str; 03-04-2005, 07:16 PM. Reason: wrong post

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      • NinjaSteve
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        • Dec 2003
        • 11089

        #4
        Sucks to appear to 'live the life' while not making shit.
        ...

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        • abyss_al
          **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
          • Oct 2003
          • 15605

          #5
          you're paying too much for the models..
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          • NaughtyRob
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            • Nov 2004
            • 29602

            #6
            Thats why its better to shoot in Vegas. Way cheaper. Give me a $23,000 budget and I'll kick ass and take names.
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            • bigdog
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2001
              • 6964

              #7
              it all evens out because the tgp submitter has to pay to fuck hot chicks

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              • brutus
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2002
                • 590

                #8
                Is that true?! Cant be... what a *** ass... cant be true if some level involed in.

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                • BlingDaddy
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                  • Apr 2004
                  • 6343

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ContentProducer
                  Thats why its better to shoot in Vegas. Way cheaper. Give me a $23,000 budget and I'll kick ass and take names.
                  That was my thought... and I'm a webmaster only... seriously... 23 large?
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                  • gideongallery
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 7082

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bigdog
                    it all evens out because the tgp submitter has to pay to fuck hot chicks

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                    • Easton
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 9825

                      #11
                      he gets $23k a scene as budget? jeezus... for $2300 i can get the same job done

                      it's all about being resourceful
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                      • LiveDose
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                        • Feb 2002
                        • 25792

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Easton
                        he gets $23k a scene as budget? jeezus... for $2300 i can get the same job done

                        it's all about being resourceful

                        Exactly.... 10% of the 23k we'll turn a huge profit here easy...

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                        • RawAlex
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9465

                          #13
                          Damn, that is funny - anyone stupid enough to work for nothing and pay out of pocket for 10 movies gets what the deserve, the fucking of a lifetime courtesy of the fuck business.

                          NEVER WORK FOR FREE... and NEVER WORK for "later money"... because there is no later money.

                          ;-)

                          Alex

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                          • lloyd
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                            • May 2002
                            • 798

                            #14
                            i'm going to start shooting in zaire with talent from the mu'buttu tribe.. they like it raw and will work for food! $23,000, my take will be $22,995 cos i gave them a happy meal!

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                            • PornHero
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 1381

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigdog
                              it all evens out because the tgp submitter has to pay to fuck hot chicks
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                              • NaughtyRob
                                Two fresh affiliate progs
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 29602

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Easton
                                he gets $23k a scene as budget? jeezus... for $2300 i can get the same job done

                                it's all about being resourceful
                                Not per scene, per movie, I could probably do it for around $10k though. He was doing b/b/b/g scenes etc.

                                That would cost me about $1,500 per scene tops, according to Mutt, Tony T pays male talent $700, wtf?!?!
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                                • PornHero
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                                  • Feb 2001
                                  • 1381

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lloyd
                                  i'm going to start shooting in zaire with talent from the mu'buttu tribe.. they like it raw and will work for food! $23,000, my take will be $22,995 cos i gave them a happy meal!


                                  i didnt even smoke my joint yet and you guys have me cracking up
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                                  • Mutt
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 34431

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Easton
                                    he gets $23k a scene as budget? jeezus... for $2300 i can get the same job done

                                    it's all about being resourceful
                                    not per scene - per DVD - which is typically 5 scenes - and these days probably four of the 5 scenes are MMF or FFM - with anal - probably 2 scenes DAP - so a DAP scene - $1500 for the chick, $100 for the agent, two good stunt cocks, $500 apiece, location rental - maybe $400, makeup chick $250-300 - adds up. the way studios work is they give a shooter a budget, whatever is left over the shooter keeps - they expect good quality so you can't start using retread chicks you can get for $400 and lame stunt cocks for $200.
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                                    • Mutt
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 34431

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                      Not per scene, per movie, I could probably do it for around $10k though. He was doing b/b/b/g scenes etc.

                                      That would cost me about $1,500 per scene tops, according to Mutt, Tony T pays male talent $700, wtf?!?!
                                      top male talent gets paid alot - we go up to $500 for certain guys.
                                      the good black male talent make $700, they are in demand. we have a good one now - worried that he'll be out of our price range soon.
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                                      • NaughtyRob
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                                        • Nov 2004
                                        • 29602

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Mutt
                                        top male talent gets paid alot - we go up to $500 for certain guys.
                                        the good black male talent make $700, they are in demand. we have a good one now - worried that he'll be out of our price range soon.
                                        That is true. That is our only problem here in Vegas. Shortage of male talent. We can get girls very cheap, without agents, no location fee (we have a huge studio) etc.
                                        Sometimes it makes me wonder why the guys in LA pay so much. Some travel to shoot, Montreal, etc. which is smart.
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                                        • abyss_al
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                                          • Oct 2003
                                          • 15605

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                          Not per scene, per movie, I could probably do it for around $10k though. He was doing b/b/b/g scenes etc.

                                          That would cost me about $1,500 per scene tops, according to Mutt, Tony T pays male talent $700, wtf?!?!

                                          that's sad... makes you wonder on the quality of a movie if it's shot for half the budget
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                                          • NaughtyRob
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                                            • Nov 2004
                                            • 29602

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by abyss_al
                                            that's sad... makes you wonder on the quality of a movie if it's shot for half the budget
                                            Not true at all. The quality is top notch. The talent is way, way cheaper here.
                                            Period.
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                                            • Grapesoda
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 46234

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Easton
                                              he gets $23k a scene as budget? jeezus... for $2300 i can get the same job done

                                              it's all about being resourceful

                                              23K, 5 scenes

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                                              • bigdog
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                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 6964

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                                top male talent gets paid alot - we go up to $500 for certain guys.
                                                the good black male talent make $700, they are in demand. we have a good one now - worried that he'll be out of our price range soon.
                                                it seems a lot of the high end male talent you only find on dvds and not on many of the exlcusive sites programs put out

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                                                • PhotoGreggXXX
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                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 1616

                                                  #25
                                                  Producers from Anabolic, Adam&Eve and others have rented my house for shoots...amazing how hard they work for so little $$$.

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                                                  • plyndrty
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 1477

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                    Thats why its better to shoot in Vegas. Way cheaper. Give me a $23,000 budget and I'll kick ass and take names.
                                                    What are the rates out there?
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                                                    • Grapesoda
                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 46234

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PhotoGreggXXX
                                                      Producers from Anabolic, Adam&Eve and others have rented my house for shoots...amazing how hard they work for so little $$$.

                                                      these guys work dirt cheap because they wanna be around the sex. taking the money right of the shooting end of the biz

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                                                      • billywatson
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                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 3281

                                                        #28
                                                        It's all about male talent you guys...that's it. Once you find a guy who can hold wood, pop, and has a huge cock, you've got a commodity. And eventually they find out. If anyone here's ever been on set, male talent works just as hard - and lots of times harder - than fem talent. And if you've got a big cock, can hold wood, and pop at the right time, then you're a minimum of $400 in LA. And it goes up from there. I've paid $1000 for male talent, and you know what? I'm about to do it again in about 5 minutes...I've got a shoot going off soon. And the male talent I'm talking about - the $1000 guy I'm about to work with - will convert your galleries like a motherfucker. So that makes him worth every penny.

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                                                        • bigdog
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 6964

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by billywatson
                                                          It's all about male talent you guys...that's it. Once you find a guy who can hold wood, pop, and has a huge cock, you've got a commodity. And eventually they find out. If anyone here's ever been on set, male talent works just as hard - and lots of times harder - than fem talent. And if you've got a big cock, can hold wood, and pop at the right time, then you're a minimum of $400 in LA. And it goes up from there. I've paid $1000 for male talent, and you know what? I'm about to do it again in about 5 minutes...I've got a shoot going off soon. And the male talent I'm talking about - the $1000 guy I'm about to work with - will convert your galleries like a motherfucker. So that makes him worth every penny.
                                                          a $1000 is it a black guy?

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                                                          • Mutt
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 34431

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by bigdog
                                                            it seems a lot of the high end male talent you only find on dvds and not on many of the exlcusive sites programs put out
                                                            that's because the amount of money web companies are willing to pay for exclusive hardcore videos isn't enough to afford to hire those guys who want $500 minimum. occassionally we do hire them. if u look on Socal Coeds you'll see alot of Brett Rockman - he got too expensive for us.

                                                            Male talent isn't something that should be scrimped on - they are the key to making a scene hot .
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                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 30307

                                                              #31
                                                              If thats true he is doing something wrong.
                                                              VERY wrong.

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                                                              • fl_prn_str
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                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                • 5736

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                Not per scene, per movie, I could probably do it for around $10k though. He was doing b/b/b/g scenes etc.

                                                                That would cost me about $1,500 per scene tops, according to Mutt, Tony T pays male talent $700, wtf?!?!

                                                                I have never seen rates like that as well for male talent.....

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                                                                • Manowar
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                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 71528

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by lloyd
                                                                  i'm going to start shooting in zaire with talent from the mu'buttu tribe.. they like it raw and will work for food! $23,000, my take will be $22,995 cos i gave them a happy meal!

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                                                                  • latinasojourn
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                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 3191

                                                                    #34
                                                                    haha, i stopped shooting in LA strictly because of overpriced modeling fees.

                                                                    clue: it is a big world out there

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                                                                    • amacontent
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                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                      • 13035

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ContentProducer
                                                                      Not per scene, per movie, I could probably do it for around $10k though. He was doing b/b/b/g scenes etc.

                                                                      That would cost me about $1,500 per scene tops, according to Mutt, Tony T pays male talent $700, wtf?!?!
                                                                      Umm what talent are you ganna use.. Eric, JD. what about female talent. Aside from a buisness license reason i left Vegas as theres nothing but crackheads there.
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                                                                      • Drake
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                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 12508

                                                                        #36
                                                                        If it's that rough, why would anybody do it?

                                                                        It's amazing that male talent makes that much. I always assumed their were line-ups of guys that would do it for free.

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                                                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 51692

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by RawAlex
                                                                          Damn, that is funny - anyone stupid enough to work for nothing and pay out of pocket for 10 movies gets what the deserve, the fucking of a lifetime courtesy of the fuck business.

                                                                          NEVER WORK FOR FREE... and NEVER WORK for "later money"... because there is no later money.

                                                                          ;-)

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                                                                          • After Shock Media
                                                                            It's coming look busy
                                                                            • Mar 2001
                                                                            • 35299

                                                                            #38
                                                                            The male talent rates seem on par and typical, and it is very true about the expense in black talent.
                                                                            What I do find slightly humorous is some of the comments on how everyone could or would do it cheaper. Many are thinking with a internet mindset and not an industry mindset.
                                                                            There is ALOT more to the costs than just shooting the scenes and many seem to be missing this point. Trust me the directors/producers hit up Las Vegas, Brazil, Eastern Europe, and so on. Twenty three thousand may seem like alot, specially when few do not get the demand for good male talent and the costs. Just a basic run down would give you a good idea though.
                                                                            If your shooting a very bland girl/guy video at 5 scenes, nothing but vaginal sex.
                                                                            Girl costs: 5 times 800-1,000 (4,000-5,000)
                                                                            Guy costs: 5 times 400-700 (1,600-3,500)
                                                                            Total: 5,600-8,500 leaving 17,400-14,500

                                                                            Now you got 5 scenes or do you? If your shooting POV you do, otherwise figure in another 500+ per scene for a quality shooter. (2,500) Budget left (14,900-12,000)

                                                                            Not a bad amount or is it?
                                                                            Subtract agent fee's say 100 per girl or another 500.
                                                                            Well do not forget the following expenses:
                                                                            Traveling expenses, Editing each scene, Making trailers, DVD authoring, Box cover design, Replicating the DVD's, Insert printing, and DVD blanks.
                                                                            Make to many copies and you loose money, do not make enough and the stores have to reorder and you need to get more made which costs money.

                                                                            Oh and do not forget that you will want trailers for your next movie on your current movie, so you better already have that shot right?

                                                                            Then your titles get shipped off to the distributors, who then ship them to the stores which many are on a 90-180 day net deal with the distributor so you do not get paid until the distributor does, and well sometimes the stores are not exactly paying promptly either. Toss in the element of piracy and so on and well it gets very unpretty.

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                                                                            • Pipecrew
                                                                              Master of Gfy.com
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 14888

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Lord of the fungi
                                                                              The male talent rates seem on par and typical, and it is very true about the expense in black talent.
                                                                              What I do find slightly humorous is some of the comments on how everyone could or would do it cheaper. Many are thinking with a internet mindset and not an industry mindset.
                                                                              There is ALOT more to the costs than just shooting the scenes and many seem to be missing this point. Trust me the directors/producers hit up Las Vegas, Brazil, Eastern Europe, and so on. Twenty three thousand may seem like alot, specially when few do not get the demand for good male talent and the costs. Just a basic run down would give you a good idea though.
                                                                              If your shooting a very bland girl/guy video at 5 scenes, nothing but vaginal sex.
                                                                              Girl costs: 5 times 800-1,000 (4,000-5,000)
                                                                              Guy costs: 5 times 400-700 (1,600-3,500)
                                                                              Total: 5,600-8,500 leaving 17,400-14,500

                                                                              Now you got 5 scenes or do you? If your shooting POV you do, otherwise figure in another 500+ per scene for a quality shooter. (2,500) Budget left (14,900-12,000)

                                                                              Not a bad amount or is it?
                                                                              Subtract agent fee's say 100 per girl or another 500.
                                                                              Well do not forget the following expenses:
                                                                              Traveling expenses, Editing each scene, Making trailers, DVD authoring, Box cover design, Replicating the DVD's, Insert printing, and DVD blanks.
                                                                              Make to many copies and you loose money, do not make enough and the stores have to reorder and you need to get more made which costs money.

                                                                              Oh and do not forget that you will want trailers for your next movie on your current movie, so you better already have that shot right?

                                                                              Then your titles get shipped off to the distributors, who then ship them to the stores which many are on a 90-180 day net deal with the distributor so you do not get paid until the distributor does, and well sometimes the stores are not exactly paying promptly either. Toss in the element of piracy and so on and well it gets very unpretty.

                                                                              Great Post.

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                                                                              • After Shock Media
                                                                                It's coming look busy
                                                                                • Mar 2001
                                                                                • 35299

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Pipecrew
                                                                                Great Post.
                                                                                Thanks.
                                                                                Often humors me when some people forget the other details envolved and think using an internet mindset which has nearly super cheap distribution and no printing costs.

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                                                                                • amacontent
                                                                                  STANLEY CUP CHAMPION !
                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                  • 13035

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Lord of the fungi
                                                                                  The male talent rates seem on par and typical, and it is very true about the expense in black talent.
                                                                                  What I do find slightly humorous is some of the comments on how everyone could or would do it cheaper. Many are thinking with a internet mindset and not an industry mindset.
                                                                                  There is ALOT more to the costs than just shooting the scenes and many seem to be missing this point. Trust me the directors/producers hit up Las Vegas, Brazil, Eastern Europe, and so on. Twenty three thousand may seem like alot, specially when few do not get the demand for good male talent and the costs. Just a basic run down would give you a good idea though.
                                                                                  If your shooting a very bland girl/guy video at 5 scenes, nothing but vaginal sex.
                                                                                  Girl costs: 5 times 800-1,000 (4,000-5,000)
                                                                                  Guy costs: 5 times 400-700 (1,600-3,500)
                                                                                  Total: 5,600-8,500 leaving 17,400-14,500

                                                                                  Now you got 5 scenes or do you? If your shooting POV you do, otherwise figure in another 500+ per scene for a quality shooter. (2,500) Budget left (14,900-12,000)

                                                                                  Not a bad amount or is it?
                                                                                  Subtract agent fee's say 100 per girl or another 500.
                                                                                  Well do not forget the following expenses:
                                                                                  Traveling expenses, Editing each scene, Making trailers, DVD authoring, Box cover design, Replicating the DVD's, Insert printing, and DVD blanks.
                                                                                  Make to many copies and you loose money, do not make enough and the stores have to reorder and you need to get more made which costs money.

                                                                                  Oh and do not forget that you will want trailers for your next movie on your current movie, so you better already have that shot right?

                                                                                  Then your titles get shipped off to the distributors, who then ship them to the stores which many are on a 90-180 day net deal with the distributor so you do not get paid until the distributor does, and well sometimes the stores are not exactly paying promptly either. Toss in the element of piracy and so on and well it gets very unpretty.
                                                                                  THANKYOU finally a man with smarts..
                                                                                  As owner of www.amacontent.com and www.ama-video.com I can usually get my internet as good price but I dont chince on dvd shoots. I laugh at all these people who say they can do cheaper but have yet to put out 1 single dvd or if they can do it cheaper what kind of quality they will put out.
                                                                                  Joe Loughlin
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                                                                                  • amacontent
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                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 13035

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Mike33
                                                                                    If it's that rough, why would anybody do it?

                                                                                    It's amazing that male talent makes that much. I always assumed their were line-ups of guys that would do it for free.
                                                                                    TWO ISSUES ;
                                                                                    CAn they stay hard for pics and video without takling 4 fucking hours
                                                                                    and
                                                                                    Can they produce a cum shot on camera.
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                                                                                    • abyss_al
                                                                                      **LOOKING FOR TRADES**
                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                      • 15605

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Lord of the fungi
                                                                                      The male talent rates seem on par and typical, and it is very true about the expense in black talent.
                                                                                      What I do find slightly humorous is some of the comments on how everyone could or would do it cheaper. Many are thinking with a internet mindset and not an industry mindset.
                                                                                      There is ALOT more to the costs than just shooting the scenes and many seem to be missing this point. Trust me the directors/producers hit up Las Vegas, Brazil, Eastern Europe, and so on. Twenty three thousand may seem like alot, specially when few do not get the demand for good male talent and the costs. Just a basic run down would give you a good idea though.
                                                                                      If your shooting a very bland girl/guy video at 5 scenes, nothing but vaginal sex.
                                                                                      Girl costs: 5 times 800-1,000 (4,000-5,000)
                                                                                      Guy costs: 5 times 400-700 (1,600-3,500)
                                                                                      Total: 5,600-8,500 leaving 17,400-14,500

                                                                                      Now you got 5 scenes or do you? If your shooting POV you do, otherwise figure in another 500+ per scene for a quality shooter. (2,500) Budget left (14,900-12,000)

                                                                                      Not a bad amount or is it?
                                                                                      Subtract agent fee's say 100 per girl or another 500.
                                                                                      Well do not forget the following expenses:
                                                                                      Traveling expenses, Editing each scene, Making trailers, DVD authoring, Box cover design, Replicating the DVD's, Insert printing, and DVD blanks.
                                                                                      Make to many copies and you loose money, do not make enough and the stores have to reorder and you need to get more made which costs money.

                                                                                      Oh and do not forget that you will want trailers for your next movie on your current movie, so you better already have that shot right?

                                                                                      Then your titles get shipped off to the distributors, who then ship them to the stores which many are on a 90-180 day net deal with the distributor so you do not get paid until the distributor does, and well sometimes the stores are not exactly paying promptly either. Toss in the element of piracy and so on and well it gets very unpretty.
                                                                                      very true, but you forgot to include makeup artist and possible clothing/toys/addtnl lighting if needed
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                                                                                      • After Shock Media
                                                                                        It's coming look busy
                                                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                                                        • 35299

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by abyss_al
                                                                                        very true, but you forgot to include makeup artist and possible clothing/toys/addtnl lighting if needed
                                                                                        I did not add in alot of other factors actually. From free promo copies you must send out, accounting, shipping, location rentals, to legal costs.

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                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32492

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          pimpin aint easy!

                                                                                          Duke

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                                                                                          • Drake
                                                                                            Hello world!
                                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                                            • 12508

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                            top male talent gets paid alot - we go up to $500 for certain guys.
                                                                                            the good black male talent make $700, they are in demand. we have a good one now - worried that he'll be out of our price range soon.
                                                                                            Mutt, how much work do these guys get on a monthly basis? Are they making $100k plus easily a year for having sex with chicks?

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                                                                                            • fl_prn_str
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                              • 5736

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Maybe I?m wrong, but I only see male talent being an asset in couples and high end porn......or why is it that Ed P, Ron J & Dave C are still in front of the camera in porn? They all can do there job accordingly without difficulty but none of then are ?young studs?.

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                                                                                              • RawAlex
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                • 9465

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Doctor Dre
                                                                                                Never work for "later money" ? Projects take time and investement ... I don't mind working on something and spending money on something for a year if it's gonna make me good money at the end
                                                                                                Dre, "later money" sucks when everyone else in the project is making "now money". The talent gets paid, the crew all get paid, the distributor gets paid, and you are holding the bag hoping that you can turn out 50 scenes (5 per dvd, 10 dvds) that are hot enough to establish your rep, so that you can get $1 a unit on future product that won't move more than 2000 pieces each?

                                                                                                It seems to me that the distributors have set up a perfect system where they get suckers to spend all the money and all the time to turn out product, and they get to sell it and keep the money. (say they are making net $5 per unit... $10k per dvd X 10 = $100k made while you made SFA... that sounds like a really good business model to me!).

                                                                                                I am seeing a system setup to make certain people rich will certain people get poorer, hopefully running out of money around DVD 9.

                                                                                                Alex

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                                                                                                • Manny The Freak
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                  • 1503

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I will shoot the same content for 10 to 15. Models are no problem, guys I can get for 0 to 100 dollars.

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                                                                                                  • latinasojourn
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                                                    • 3191

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Manny The Freak
                                                                                                    I will shoot the same content for 10 to 15. Models are no problem, guys I can get for 0 to 100 dollars.

                                                                                                    i pay guys 250 in usa. they are always the lovers of the girl models in real life, so they do get wood.

                                                                                                    i have paid as much as 400 in rare instances where he can do something unusual like let his girlfriend nail him with a strapon---but that's the highest i have ever paid a guy.

                                                                                                    but i don't pair unknown guys with unknown girls---i only shoot lovers---so there's no wood issues, no disease issues, and the content is real and hot.

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