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  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34512
    #1

    Overture is getting ready to copy Google

    I just got the heads up from my account rep at Yahoo search marketing that by the beginning of Q3, Overture is essentially going to be mirroring Google's interface and business model. Listings will be ranked based on CTR/maxbid (like Google), geo targetting by country/state/zipcode will be offered (like Google), instant approvals with an editorial review later on (like Google) and even the interface will be very similiar.

    I really wish they wouldn't make these changes personally and would rather they didn't change a thing, but I imagine this would appeal to a lot of advertisers out there

    WG
    I play with Google.
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    • Juicy D. Links
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 122992
      #2
      There is no money to be made in SEO

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        • sweetgirl2006
          Confirmed User
          • May 2006
          • 1194
          #3
          not at all...



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            • Dirty F
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2001
              • 59204
              #4
              Niiiiice

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                • JD
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22651
                  #5
                  damn. i need to get into ppc.

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                    • sonofsam
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 18647
                      #6
                      WiredGuy: How much would you charge to teach someone how to effectively use Adwords??

                      For example.. someone tells you what product they want to promote, and you show them what you should do and how? (only if the keywords arn't competing with you of course)

                      ballpark figure?
                      I like turtles.

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                        • Splum
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2003
                          • 6195
                          #7
                          Are they going to be putting out an API too?
                          http://adsense.blogspot.com/2006/05/...-api-beta.html

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                            • WiredGuy
                              Pounding Googlebot
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 34512
                              #8
                              Originally posted by sonofsam
                              WiredGuy: How much would you charge to teach someone how to effectively use Adwords??

                              For example.. someone tells you what product they want to promote, and you show them what you should do and how? (only if the keywords arn't competing with you of course)

                              ballpark figure?

                              I don't train competition (present or future).
                              WG
                              I play with Google.

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                                • sonofsam
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2004
                                  • 18647
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                  There is a ton of money to be made in SEO
                                  OMG SO YOU LIEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
                                  I like turtles.

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                                    • Adulter
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2003
                                      • 1252
                                      #10
                                      WiredGuy, why don't you want those changes to be done ?

                                      I think that CTR/maxbid system is more fair than maxbid only.

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                                        • WiredGuy
                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 34512
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Adulter
                                          WiredGuy, why don't you want those changes to be done ?

                                          I think that CTR/maxbid system is more fair than maxbid only.

                                          Anyone who's dealt with Overture knows how sadistic those nazi editors are. Even though they are brutal, it keeps a large amount of competition out from buying traffic. This new system will lower that barrier to entry. I also have a strong preference for highest bidder getting on top based on my business model. These changes do mean I have to change a lot of things on my end.
                                          WG
                                          I play with Google.

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                                            • Adulter
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2003
                                              • 1252
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                              Anyone who's dealt with Overture knows how sadistic those nazi editors are. Even though they are brutal, it keeps a large amount of competition out from buying traffic. This new system will lower that barrier to entry. I also have a strong preference for highest bidder getting on top based on my business model. These changes do mean I have to change a lot of things on my end.
                                              WG

                                              I see it now.

                                              In other words: someone who's in there already - doesn't like it. And those are the good news for new advertisers.

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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32448
                                                  #13
                                                  SEO is for pussies.

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                                                    • tony299
                                                      lurker
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 57021
                                                      #14
                                                      if your going to copy minds well copy from the best.

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                                                        • BVF
                                                          Black Vagina Finder
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 13975
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                          I don't train competition (present or future).
                                                          WG
                                                          My new tagline...I'll use it next time I'm asked something by a noob.

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                                                            • bdld
                                                              $100,000
                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                              • 11452
                                                              #16
                                                              so now i have to babysit my YSM ads like my google ones.. great. they're going to make a killing off of these proposed changes if they do occur, especially if their editors allow you to bid on a wider variety of kw's.

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                                                                • mrgica
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jan 2004
                                                                  • 2169
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                  I just got the heads up from my account rep at Yahoo search marketing that by the beginning of Q3, Overture is essentially going to be mirroring Google's interface and business model. Listings will be ranked based on CTR/maxbid (like Google), geo targetting by country/state/zipcode will be offered (like Google), instant approvals with an editorial review later on (like Google) and even the interface will be very similiar.

                                                                  I really wish they wouldn't make these changes personally and would rather they didn't change a thing, but I imagine this would appeal to a lot of advertisers out there

                                                                  WG
                                                                  so when will that be ready? this year atleast?
                                                                  Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 34512
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by mrgica
                                                                      so when will that be ready? this year atleast?
                                                                      By the beginning of the 3rd quarter of the year. Private beta testing of their new interface (but not the new rankings) will be towards the end of the summer.
                                                                      WG
                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                        • Trixxxia
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                          • 5600
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                          Anyone who's dealt with Overture knows how sadistic those nazi editors are. Even though they are brutal, it keeps a large amount of competition out from buying traffic. This new system will lower that barrier to entry. I also have a strong preference for highest bidder getting on top based on my business model. These changes do mean I have to change a lot of things on my end.
                                                                          WG
                                                                          WG from my understanding of the call, when I brought up adult, they said that this won't change with the editors though. It may be 'faster' though because the mainstream Editors are moving to the adult side but essentially, the adult sites will still have to go through the 'manual' process.

                                                                          If you do alot of mainstream stuff then yes, what you said applies.

                                                                          At least, that's what I got from my discussion and question period.

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                                                                            • camuseeme
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                              • 413
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I welcome the change. I get pissed off everytime I try to get an ad approved with yahoo. Now I might get 1 out of ten ads approved. And I don't understand whay they always want a user/password to the affiliate site I'm promoting. If they wanna watch porn, then they should sign up

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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34512
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                                  WG from my understanding of the call, when I brought up adult, they said that this won't change with the editors though. It may be 'faster' though because the mainstream Editors are moving to the adult side but essentially, the adult sites will still have to go through the 'manual' process.

                                                                                  If you do alot of mainstream stuff then yes, what you said applies.

                                                                                  At least, that's what I got from my discussion and question period.

                                                                                  The rep I spoke to mentioned that at first adult would require manual review, but I did get the impression that would be a temporary thing. I could be wrong though.
                                                                                  WG
                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                    • Tdog
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2006
                                                                                      • 2707
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I guess if you cant beat em, you midaswell copy them.

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                                                                                        • sacX
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 2998
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          about fucking time. I hate YSS as is, especially if I want to advertise in europe i have to sign up for a whole different site for each stupid country.
                                                                                          Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                            • studiocritic
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                                                              • 2442
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Tdog
                                                                                              midaswell
                                                                                              what did it feel like, typing that?
                                                                                              254342256

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                                                                                                • X37375787
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by studiocritic
                                                                                                  what did it feel like, typing that?
                                                                                                  roffle! Illiteracy is a terrible thing.

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                                                                                                    • Trixxxia
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 5600
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by sacX
                                                                                                      about fucking time. I hate YSS as is, especially if I want to advertise in europe i have to sign up for a whole different site for each stupid country.
                                                                                                      Don't get your hopes up It will remain that way for awhile I was told

                                                                                                      *for foreign countries*

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                                                                                                        • A-Bomb
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                                          • 680
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
                                                                                                          There is no money to be made in SEO
                                                                                                          Sure there is... if you're a high paid consultant to corporate nimrods!

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                                                                                                            • sacX
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                              • 2998
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by TopBucksTrixxxia
                                                                                                              Don't get your hopes up It will remain that way for awhile I was told

                                                                                                              *for foreign countries*
                                                                                                              they're leaving so much money on the table.
                                                                                                              Have Asian Language Traffic?

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                                                                                                                • Cash
                                                                                                                  Click on my TCG signature
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                  • 20825
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Is Overture traffic still worth giving a try now?
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                                                                                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                      • 34512
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Cash
                                                                                                                      Is Overture traffic still worth giving a try now?
                                                                                                                      I've always done well with it but i know most people havent done too well.
                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                        • milambur
                                                                                                                          Mainstream since 2010
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                          • 1327
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          To late IMHO, PPC traffic is going to hell lately. Way too much fraud going on, I'm estimating I'm getting hit with 50+% fraud traffic on certain keywords. Given that and losses due to scumware it is really hard to make a profit as an affiliate these days.
                                                                                                                          Alea iacta est

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                                                                                                                            • 2HousePlague
                                                                                                                              CURATOR
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                              • 14572
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Better pucker up and kiss OV ass, then.



                                                                                                                              2hp
                                                                                                                              tada!

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                                                                                                                                • wedouglas
                                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 5921
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                  I don't train competition (present or future).
                                                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                                                  Good man

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                                                                                                                                    • 2HousePlague
                                                                                                                                      CURATOR
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 14572
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                      I don't train competition (present or future).
                                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                                      Good man. Better to enlist them --


                                                                                                                                      2hp
                                                                                                                                      tada!

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                                                                                                                                        • Manga1
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 952
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          "Yahoo has tipped its hand with the upcoming release of Project Panama -- an updated paid-search ad system. The New York Times reported the upgrade took nearly two years and cost tens of millions of dollars, and took the work of 28 teams of people in three locations. Yahoo has a lot of catching up to do, as Google searches bring in 40% more money than Yahoo searches, according to one analyst. What will advertisers get from Panama? Geographic targeting and automated analytics, showing how well an ad is performing and how many more clicks a campaign might generate with higher bids. Yahoo doesn't expect to gain revenues from the new system until 2007, with a launch expected in the third quarter of '06."

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                                                                                                                                            • Sloane
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 815
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              the yahoo interface sucks, about time they changed it. I gave up using them as soon as the denied one of my campaigns. I would imagine many webmasters have done the same and stuck with adwords.

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                                                                                                                                                • milambur
                                                                                                                                                  Mainstream since 2010
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 1327
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  According to what I heard they are still going to keep it divided into different markets like they have now, if that is true is seriously sucks.
                                                                                                                                                  Alea iacta est

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                                                                                                                                                    • 2HousePlague
                                                                                                                                                      CURATOR
                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 14572
                                                                                                                                                      #38



                                                                                                                                                      2hp
                                                                                                                                                      tada!

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                                                                                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 34512
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by 2HousePlague



                                                                                                                                                          2hp

                                                                                                                                                          hehe, the SEO seminar at WA East
                                                                                                                                                          WG
                                                                                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                                                            • extreme
                                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 2120
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Trying to beat google by copying them?

                                                                                                                                                              Now there's something that has no chance at all of succeeding.
                                                                                                                                                              Anyone think Overture can do the Google thing better than Google?

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                                                                                                                                                                • FreeFastHost
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1588
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  I can't wait for this update to go down.

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