Do you know how to Pre-sell?

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  • PornHero
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1381

    #1

    Do you know how to Pre-sell?

    I remember when I first started out as an adultwebmaster I would build gallery pages for free sites and tgps without really knowing how to pre-sell my sponsor's sites.

    What is pre-selling?

    Pre-selling refers to informing and encouraging your surfers into visiting your sponsor sites so that by the time they hit the link with your linkcode in it they are excited to see the site you are sending them to. Most times surfers must feel like they are at a casino when they click on links... "Hmmm not sure what it means by More Amateurs HERE but lets just see..."

    Recently I went through all the freesites I have built in the past and smiled to myself as I could see my progress from when I first started out (there was no preselling on my pages) to when I got really good at pre-selling.

    Here is a page that does not do much pre-selling:
    Example gallery with not much preselling

    Here is a page I think is a great example of pre-selling:
    Take a look at this great Pre-selling page HERE

    How many adultwebmasters do you think will click on the links above? Did you? Are you going to? I bet you alot will, I did a great job preselling them! :D I am sure both pages get sales but which one do you think converts better?

    Here is a another secret: When you spend the extra time preselling you are not only helping to increase your conversion ratio of people that visit that page but you are also creating text for search engines... and over time all that additional search engine traffic makes a HUGE difference in the amount of money you make. Believe me.

    Your homework today is to think about how well you presell and concentrate on spending more time preselling instead of rushing to build your gallery pages.

    Now all this assumes you are using sponsors with informative tours that convert... I like reality and amateur style tours because they have storylines that can make it irrestible for some surfers to join. An example of what I am talking about is the reality sites from topbucks. Those reality tours are awesome and updated often which is important when it comes to selling memberships.
    Last edited by PornHero; 03-03-2005, 06:31 AM.
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  • mortenb
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2004
    • 2203

    #2
    It would have been a nice and informative post, but I can't help seeing it as spam with that ref code at the end.

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    • PornHero
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2001
      • 1381

      #3
      Originally posted by mortenb
      It would have been a nice and informative post, but I can't help seeing it as spam with that ref code at the end.
      Spam? wtf, I explain in detail one of the secrets of making more money in this business and you are concerned with the refcode at the very bottom? whatever man. See, that is why I am not worried about giving away secrets on my adultwebmaster blog, there are so many jackasses in this business that dont know how to pay attention when a golden nugget of info is presented to them. spam, lol.
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      • Dalai lama
        Strength and Honor
        • Jul 2004
        • 16540

        #4
        Originally posted by mortenb
        It would have been a nice and informative post, but I can't help seeing it as spam with that ref code at the end.
        No. You are a idiot.

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        • mortenb
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2004
          • 2203

          #5
          Originally posted by PornHero
          Spam? wtf, I explain in detail one of the secrets of making more money in this business and you are concerned with the refcode at the very bottom? whatever man. See, that is why I am not worried about giving away secrets on my adultwebmaster blog, there are so many jackasses in this business that dont know how to pay attention when a golden nugget of info is presented to them. spam, lol.
          Sure. Put it on your webmaster blog. Let people visit it out of their own will. But when you put it on a webmaster forum with ref codes I can't see it as anything but spam. But that's just my oppinion. You are allowed yours.

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          • Jaymus.
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2005
            • 304

            #6
            OMG IT MUST BE SPAM! Get the torches and pitchforks out!

            Very good post, thanks.

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            • mortenb
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2004
              • 2203

              #7
              Originally posted by Dalai lama
              No. You are a idiot.
              Ok. I can live with you thinking I am an idiot.

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              • PornHero
                Confirmed User
                • Feb 2001
                • 1381

                #8
                Originally posted by Jaymus.
                OMG IT MUST BE SPAM! Get the torches and pitchforks out!

                Very good post, thanks.
                lol, thanks man.
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                • Jace
                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 35562

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mortenb
                  It would have been a nice and informative post, but I can't help seeing it as spam with that ref code at the end.
                  wow, i can already tell from that one SINGLE post, that you are a terrible businessman and don't know how to make money from all angles

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                  • JFPdude
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 4027

                    #10
                    PornHero - Great post man ... I learned something from it and it looks like it can improve my bottom line.

                    I look for posts from this guy. He is real and down to earth and giving real useful information.

                    OMG there is a ref link in his post !!!!! - Good, with the kind of information he just gave me I can see putting it to use where he has. He took the time out of his day to give me some information. If I was not already an affiliate of Topbucks I would have clicked his link and tried to accomplish his level of success with his suggestions.

                    Would he profit from it? Absolutely and as well he should. The internet is an information highway. Wether we are informing people of the best soap to buy or informing them of the girl that takes it in the ass and sucks the guy off afterwards it's all information and thus should be rewarded.

                    By clicking on that link he would be rewarded financially for giving someone good useful information.

                    Again to you PornHero.

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                    • squizzel
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 900

                      #11
                      nice post, with my pre sales text ive been trying to drop the keyword phrase into it once or twice and it works well for SE's and once or twice in the footer of each page. It takes a while to find the right balance of keywords to text and to make the text sound good to the surfer as well as the SE so you neglect neither. Easier said than done, nice post though !

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                      • PornHero
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 1381

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JFPdude
                        PornHero - Great post man ... I learned something from it and it looks like it can improve my bottom line.

                        I look for posts from this guy. He is real and down to earth and giving real useful information.

                        OMG there is a ref link in his post !!!!! - Good, with the kind of information he just gave me I can see putting it to use where he has. He took the time out of his day to give me some information. If I was not already an affiliate of Topbucks I would have clicked his link and tried to accomplish his level of success with his suggestions.

                        Would he profit from it? Absolutely and as well he should. The internet is an information highway. Wether we are informing people of the best soap to buy or informing them of the girl that takes it in the ass and sucks the guy off afterwards it's all information and thus should be rewarded.

                        By clicking on that link he would be rewarded financially for giving someone good useful information.

                        Again to you PornHero.
                        Wow, great post yourself JFPdude! You are so right, in this internet business we are paid for the information we provide. I see my surfers as the sheep and I am their shepherd, helping them to find their way, guiding them to the promised land (ie informing them and sending them to topquality porn sites where they get their moneys worth.)

                        Thanks for the big-ups
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                        • chodadog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 9736

                          #13
                          Am i the only one who realised he just "pre-sold" us his topbucks affiliate linking code?

                          But really, it's a good post. I think the more info the surfer has before they hit the tour, the better.
                          26 + 6 = 1

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                          • nojob
                            The Original NoJob
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3682

                            #14
                            **bump for a great thread**

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              OMG IT MUST BE SPAM! Get the torches and pitchforks out!
                              Burn him at the stake!!



                              Seriously man, good information on the presell.
                              Should You Email Your Members?

                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                              Enough Said.

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                              • Furious_Male
                                Doing the grind since 99
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 16884

                                #16
                                I am very strong at pre-selling but your post was a good read regardless.

                                I want to add you don't want to over sell. Let your surfers know what they get in as few words as possible. I see some pre-sell pitches that are to lengthy. The surfer wants to get off not read an article.
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                                • Raven
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6874

                                  #17
                                  I think it's a fair trade...if someone gives out valuable information; and, in return, people sign up under his ref code.

                                  I'd like permission to put this on kblogger..ref code and all....contact me..pretty please.

                                  Raven
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                                  • PornHero
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2001
                                    • 1381

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Raven
                                    I think it's a fair trade...if someone gives out valuable information; and, in return, people sign up under his ref code.

                                    I'd like permission to put this on kblogger..ref code and all....contact me..pretty please.

                                    Raven
                                    27331641
                                    sure go ahead,

                                    wow nice blog you got there Raven, hows about we trade blog links?

                                    I just added you to my icq.
                                    Last edited by PornHero; 03-03-2005, 11:36 AM.
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                                    • SykkBoy2
                                      Jesus loves bacon
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 19969

                                      #19
                                      Great post and hell with the moron ;-)

                                      I've been stressing this for years...people bitch and moan about conversions and then I'll take a look at their page and they just have little more than a "Click Here" link and wonder why the surfer could give a shit about the site when they get there (and then of course that affiliate hits the boards screaming about shaving and how it's the sponsors job to sell the site).
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