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  • MrIzzz
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    • Sep 2003
    • 22923

    #1

    yooo fitness/bodybuilding gurus

    is it better to do some cardio (like 30 minutes) before a workout? or after?

    what do you say?


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  • Spunky
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    • Jun 2002
    • 133978

    #2
    Make it atleast 3 hours..no pain no gain Jizzmo

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    • abyss_al
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      • Oct 2003
      • 15605

      #3
      before... raise your heartrate for the workout, this way you apply more breathing/O2 to your system
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      • qwe
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        • Jul 2003
        • 2109

        #4
        if you run for 30 min you wont have modivation to do good workout... i say run few times aday when you don't weightlift

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        • MrIzzz
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          • Sep 2003
          • 22923

          #5
          Originally posted by spunky
          Make it atleast 3 hours..no pain no gain Jizzmo
          lol, if i worked out that hard i would really look like this then...


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          • KittyLix
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            • Apr 2004
            • 2036

            #6
            20 min cardio, 20 min weight training, and 20 min sculpting

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            • Spunky
              I need a beer
              • Jun 2002
              • 133978

              #7
              Originally posted by MrIzzz
              lol, if i worked out that hard i would really look like this then...
              I thought you looked that already

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              • Martin
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                • Dec 2001
                • 17274

                #8
                I try to do 10 minutes after the work out.

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                • Sleazylee
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 208

                  #9
                  I don't know exactly what your goals are so it depends on whether your focusing on putting on muscle or leaning down. This is a PREFERENCE question so your going to get alot of opinions. No one that I know has actually scientifically proved the optimal order of cardio/weight training sessions.

                  If you do your cardio first, you are using up the available glycogen that is built up in your muscles and therefore your weight lifting session will suffer afterwords in my opinion. I would personally recommend doing cardio AFTER your weight training because doing cardio after weight training puts your body in a state where you are able to burn more fat than normal because the glycogen in your blood is depleted. And from what I was told when I had this question a while ago, is if you stay within your target heart rate you wont burn any more muscle than doing cardio 10 hours before or after.

                  Hope that helps and if you want stop by and make a post in the new forums in my sig, some others may have opinions that can help too.
                  Last edited by Sleazylee; 03-02-2005, 08:06 PM.

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                  • MrIzzz
                    If u touch it, I will cum
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 22923

                    #10
                    Originally posted by abyss_al
                    before... raise your heartrate for the workout, this way you apply more breathing/O2 to your system
                    thats why i made this thread. thats similar to what someone was telling me today


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                    • wjxxx
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 4448

                      #11
                      200 mg of Nandrolone Decanoate before

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                      • MrIzzz
                        If u touch it, I will cum
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 22923

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sleazylee
                        I don't know exactly what your goals are so it depends on whether your focusing on putting on muscle or leaning down. This is a PREFERENCE question so your going to get alot of opinions. No one that I know has actually scientifically proved the optimal order of cardio/weight training sessions.

                        If you do your cardio first, you are using up the available glycogen that is built up in your muscles and therefore your weight lifting session will suffer afterwords in my opinion. I would personally recommend doing cardio AFTER your weight training because doing cardio after weight training puts your body in a state where you are able to burn more fat than normal because the glycogen in your blood is depleted. And from what I was told when I had this question a while ago, is if you stay within your target heart rate you wont burn any more muscle than doing cardio 10 hours before or after.

                        Hope that helps and if you want stop by and make a post in the new forums in my sig, some others may have opinions that can help too.
                        very interesting advice. thanks for the detail

                        its time i read up a little more


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                        • B40
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                          • Jul 2001
                          • 7020

                          #13
                          10-15 minutes always before to warm up, get the blood flowing, lets you push your weight...

                          Never do a cardio session after a workout, do them on days where you're not working out

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                          • abyss_al
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                            • Oct 2003
                            • 15605

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MrIzzz
                            thats why i made this thread. thats similar to what someone was telling me today
                            best way:
                            day1: cardio, biceps, triceps, arms, stomach, stretch
                            day2: cardio, chest, back, stomach, stretch
                            day3: cardio, stomach, legs, stretch
                            day4: rest, stretch
                            then repeat

                            do all your workouts pyramid style, let all the muscles burn



                            pretty basic, you can move different execises to different days if you want, they usually go well like this, try and see how your body reacts to it... if you want a full schedule and list let me know, its been a while, i may have to check my old books and see exact stuff i used to do
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                            • Sleazylee
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                              • Dec 2002
                              • 208

                              #15
                              Depends on the type of cardio your doing I think. If your doing easy cardio like walking/slow jogging then its not really going to do anything to hurt you. I think this debate is more of just a warm up thing and it probally won't hurt your workout in my opinion. That being said, alot of people don't even warm up before lifting, me included, so its all your preference. I personally do HIT (high intensity training) for my cardio and since its pretty strenuous I focus on cardio during the off days. Doing cardio on your off weight training days also gives you something to do on those days and besides watching Arnold movies

                              Lots of good opinions on this though..might want to check on some of the bigger boards like Steroidology or Elitefitness.
                              Last edited by Sleazylee; 03-02-2005, 08:28 PM.

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                              • GiantGnome
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 4344

                                #16
                                Do 5 minutes before to warm up. Do some for one hour after for cool down.
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                                • galleryseek
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                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 8234

                                  #17
                                  in my opinion you should keep your cardio training on seperate days from your weight training...

                                  if you want to be hardcore about it and really make progress, train 6 days a week with 4 days of weight training and 2 day devoted solely to cardio... also perform your weight training at high intensity, stay around the 12 to 8 rep range with around 4 sets by 4 exercises per muscle group.. also cut down rest inbetween sets to around 90 seconds.

                                  do that with a good diet and you're ready to go.

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                                  • nojob
                                    The Original NoJob
                                    • Feb 2004
                                    • 3682

                                    #18
                                    before, you can get away with 15 mins then work on one body part each time you go.

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                                    • tical
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                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 6504

                                      #19
                                      add some of this



                                      and some of this

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                                        • Dec 2004
                                        • 6158

                                        #20
                                        Your anabolic window is usually only about 30-40 minutes during your workouts. Doing cardio directly before or after is typically counterproductive according to MAX-OT principles.

                                        They suggest 8 hours before or after weight training every day.

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                                        • Odin88
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                                          • Jul 2003
                                          • 3267

                                          #21
                                          I asked my personal trainer when starting, and he strongly advised after the workout. I'd have to agree as well, the first few times I did it before the workout and felt like total shit when I went out there to lift some weights. Only exception is when you are doing a leg workout, do a small bit of running prior to starting in order to get the blood flowing to the legs.

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                                          • tical
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                                            • Feb 2002
                                            • 6504

                                            #22
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                                            • SicChild
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                                              • Mar 2003
                                              • 365

                                              #23
                                              Both are bad. Cliff notes version is: Doing cardio before workouts tires your body and you can't lift as much, therefore your gains aren't as great. Doing cardio after workouts slows down the rebuild of your muscle.

                                              Do cardio on non-lifting days or 6-8 hours apart.

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                                              • Doctor Hung
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                                                • Jan 2005
                                                • 211

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MrIzzz
                                                is it better to do some cardio (like 30 minutes) before a workout? or after?

                                                what do you say?
                                                Do your cardio before your workout and do cardio also before you do Abs. If you want to go all out do before and after a cool down type of cardio exercise. Watch that diet however, all the amount of cardio will not help you if you eat like shit. I use to personal train for 3 years, feel free to pick my brain

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                                                • beemk
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                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 20829

                                                  #25
                                                  i do 10 minutes of warm up cardio then work out then after i do the real cardio. i dont do it before because i want to use most of my energy for lifting and dont want to tire out from cardio.
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                                                  • Pornwolf
                                                    Drunk and Unruly
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 22712

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Sleazylee
                                                    I don't know exactly what your goals are so it depends on whether your focusing on putting on muscle or leaning down. This is a PREFERENCE question so your going to get alot of opinions. No one that I know has actually scientifically proved the optimal order of cardio/weight training sessions.

                                                    If you do your cardio first, you are using up the available glycogen that is built up in your muscles and therefore your weight lifting session will suffer afterwords in my opinion. I would personally recommend doing cardio AFTER your weight training because doing cardio after weight training puts your body in a state where you are able to burn more fat than normal because the glycogen in your blood is depleted. And from what I was told when I had this question a while ago, is if you stay within your target heart rate you wont burn any more muscle than doing cardio 10 hours before or after.

                                                    Hope that helps and if you want stop by and make a post in the new forums in my sig, some others may have opinions that can help too.
                                                    This is exactly what I was gonna type. Thanks for saving me the keystrokes.

                                                    I usually do 15 laps in the pool after a workout. I find that to be the best cardio for me.
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                                                    • venus
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                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                      • 3112

                                                      #27
                                                      cardio is best in the morning, right after you get up and before you eat ANYTHING.

                                                      how long depends on your goals, but I like to do at least 45 minutes to an hour ..when I do it.

                                                      But if your doing cardio, then you do not want to lift heavy, go for more reps using lighter weights. trying to build size while doing cardio is defeating the purpose of lifting heavy.
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                                                      • venus
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                                                        • Jan 2003
                                                        • 3112

                                                        #28
                                                        actually what you described is not "easy cardio"
                                                        its what bodybuilders do to not burn as much muscle while burning fat.

                                                        walking at a moderate pace for an hour, first thing in the morning, before breakfast is the best way to burn fat and save muscle.

                                                        Originally posted by Sleazylee
                                                        If your doing easy cardio like walking/slow jogging then its not really going to do anything to hurt you.
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                                                        • jamesonxx
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                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 758

                                                          #29
                                                          After.


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                                                          • jonesy
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                                                            • Jan 2003
                                                            • 6688

                                                            #30
                                                            cardio after a workout - always
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                                                            • venus
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                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                              • 3112

                                                              #31
                                                              My techniques come from professional bodybuilders - ones that have been in the MS Olympia .. 7 times ...

                                                              BTW this is not from a book either, she was my trainer when I was getting ready for the orange county muscle classic.
                                                              look at the bottom right picture (yes this is me)
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                                                              now post pics of what your cardio has done for you

                                                              Originally posted by jonesy
                                                              cardio after a workout - always
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                                                              • venus
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                                                                • Jan 2003
                                                                • 3112

                                                                #32
                                                                ok I am bumping for some pics ...
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                                                                • tical
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 6504

                                                                  #33


                                                                  sorry had to squeeze that in there
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                                                                  • emthree
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                    • 10816

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Do it after the weight lifting.
                                                                    You'll just give in and drop a dumbell on your chest if you do it before.

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                                                                    • wargames
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                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 10423

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I do the threadmill for 30 mins after a work-out.
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                                                                      • Doctor Hung
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                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                        • 211

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I dont compete but I think i could if i wanted to, but great pics venus!! I don't train as much as i use to so im a little small right now. Oh yeah and i know my gym outfit is strange

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                                                                        • xclusive
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                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 35218

                                                                          #37
                                                                          do 30 minutes before to warm up and 20 minutes after to wind down and you will get in great shape in no time

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