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  • MrDeiz
    • May 2008
    • 9802

    #1

    Wow. Big news from Orgy Cash and ?Payserve

    Isn't it too radical for one mail? )
    Will be interesting to see how this will resolve/result
    The only good news I see - Orgycash is partnering with Payserve

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    Dear Orgycash Affiliates,

    We have big news that we're excited to announce today as we've just
    finished massively improving and updating of our network of sites,
    Orgymax! The new and greatly improved version can now be found at
    Tainster.com with all the same great content as before plus a whole
    lot more! Please check out Tainster.com for yourself and get familiar
    with everything it has to offer - all the same sites as Orgymax, plus
    live shows, webcam shows, all our DVDs, chat rooms, third party
    content soon to come, and a community section with a lot of the bells
    and whistles that are a must on the net today and that we hope will
    help retain members.

    The issue that most concerns our affiliates is changes to the billing
    setup for Tainster.com. As Tainster has been developed as a
    pay-as-you-go credit system, with various types of live shows with
    different rates and third party content soon to come, which will mean
    those content producers will be getting their own cut of the revenue,
    we had to change our payout system. Here is the breakdown (which will
    make more sense once you get familiar with Tainster.com):

    Webmaster Commission:
    25% Senior Webmaster - more than 500 transactions in a month
    20% Junior Webmaster - 500 or less transactions per month

    RevShare:
    5% of total earnings from referred webmasters, affiliates

    Considering members are not limited to the flat rate system as they
    were on the old Orgymax monthly membership format, there's much
    greater potential for earning way more money than before!

    Now you're definitely asking, what about all my affiliate links to
    anything Orgymax related!? Not to worry, everything has been rerouted
    to Tainster and nothing will change in that regard. We will be working
    on changing our affiliate program in the weeks to come, but as for now
    everything still works as it did before. We are working on partnering
    up with Payserve, who will financially power our new affiliate
    program, meaning you'll have more payout options than are currently
    offered. Payserve is a well-established company that we have worked
    with in the past and as such they are our trusted partner.

    All of your current signups will automatically be transferred to
    Tainster and they will be grandfathered into the same price they are
    paying now (but remember, they can also pay more if they choose to buy
    extra credits for special features on Tainster.com) in a special
    monthly flat rate.

    Orgymax will be no more as of June 1st , and as of today new
    members cannot sign up to any Orgymax sites, but rather they will be
    redirected to Tainster.com. We've been hard at work on Tainster for
    quite some time and are very excited to launch it! We recognized the
    need to keep of with the times in order to boost and help retain
    memberships, and we're confident Tainster.com will result in much
    better business for all of us! For you bigger webmasters and content
    producers out there we're also working on setting up a system for
    whitelabel solutions and much more, so stay tuned for more information
    to come and a new and improved affiliate program!

    We appreciate all of your efforts promoting us and keep up the great work!
    Last edited by MrDeiz; 05-25-2010, 03:32 AM.
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  • MrDeiz
    • May 2008
    • 9802

    #2
    btw don't see link codes into admin
    i mean there's no such option anymore
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    • MrDeiz
      • May 2008
      • 9802

      #3
      and one more. what will be w/ ccbill program for orgy cash?
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      • Oracle Porn
        Affiliate
        • Oct 2002
        • 24433

        #4
        time to remove links


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        • Pornopat
          AdultTubeSubmits.com
          • Dec 2003
          • 10598

          #5
          So basically they want to drop me from 65% to 20%
          Links droped.
          https://stripcash.com/sign-up/?userI...fff832eb95ab6a

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          • MrDeiz
            • May 2008
            • 9802

            #6
            Originally posted by Pornopat
            So basically they want to drop me from 65% to 20%
            Links droped.
            i guess there will be increased volume of money surfer spends on that site.

            sorry about my post on links. was trying to find them into vxsbill admin. everything is ok into orgycash.com admin
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            • Pandemos
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2005
              • 956

              #7
              This is pretty shocking. No advance notice of the changes, payouts slashed and surfers deceived into signing up to something different than they're expecting.

              Time to pull those galleries...
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              • Vexes

                #8
                Hey cool. A tube site... except its not a tube site. Its a fake tube site where you have to pay to see any video at all.

                NICE

                Will be great to get back to the days of 1:20 conversions.

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                • LoveSandra
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 10551

                  #9
                  good to hear

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                  • brassmonkey
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 77397

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LoveSandra
                    good to hear
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                    • Bhunter
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1119

                      #11
                      This is what I hate most from affiliate programs.. no announcements weeks before, but just doing mayor changes and then sending the news after it happend.

                      A BIG FUCK YOU!!

                      Links dropped!!


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                      • Naechy
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                        • Sep 2007
                        • 6497

                        #12
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                        • Abracadabra_nl
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 147

                          #13
                          I have been an Orgymax affilate since 2005. All in all I have made aprox 200,000 dollars worth of sales.

                          But in spite of this they will drop me from 60% to 20%

                          Goodbye Orgymax. It was nice to do business with you. I hope you don't mind that I drop all my links to your sites.
                          Last edited by Abracadabra_nl; 05-25-2010, 05:13 AM.
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                          • Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • May 2010
                            • 970

                            #14
                            exciting news !!!! woot woot!!!

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                            • tranza
                              ICQ: 197-556-237
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 57559

                              #15
                              As always, Orgycash sends another annoucement that will reduce even more affiliates payouts.

                              I wonder if anyone will still promote them with a 20% comission only.

                              Also, did you guys get your last payment? It's way overdue for me.
                              I'm just a newbie.

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                              • DVTimes
                                xxx
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 31658

                                #16
                                bump 4 the news.
                                XXX

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                                • Bhunter
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 1119

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tranza
                                  As always, Orgycash sends another annoucement that will reduce even more affiliates payouts.

                                  I wonder if anyone will still promote them with a 20% comission only.

                                  Also, did you guys get your last payment? It's way overdue for me.
                                  I set my payouts to CCbill.. so they are always on time.

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                                  • TheMaster
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2003
                                    • 2734

                                    #18
                                    anyone have a clue what "Tainster" means?

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                                    • spazlabz
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jul 2003
                                      • 6548

                                      #19
                                      I just wanted everyone to know that when I saw this thread I checked with Dennis (the CEO of Payserve) to ask him what this was all about. Apparently, there was some discussion about Payserve helping with OrgyCash's affiliates due to a large number of small payments being made through ePassporte. Orgycash discussed with Payserve the possibility for taking over these payments. That is the extent of our involvement in this issue.

                                      Nothing had been finalized so this announcement caught us a bit by surprise and we are not entirely certain what is going on here. OrgyCash has always been a trusted partner with us and we enjoy a good relationship with them. Having said that we will need to have more discussions with them regarding this issue.

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                                      • Abracadabra_nl
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jun 2005
                                        • 147

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheMaster
                                        anyone have a clue what "Tainster" means?
                                        Doesn't it mean rip-off?
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                                        • kristin
                                          GOO!
                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 9768

                                          #21
                                          Wow .... just wow.
                                          Vacares rules.

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                                          • WeDesignet Lisa
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Oct 2009
                                            • 182

                                            #22
                                            that's total bullshit! They'll be stealing your money between now and the moment you remove your links. Fuckers!


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                                            • Bhunter
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 1119

                                              #23
                                              well i would expect an reply from the program reps here...

                                              but they did not.. they don't care...

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                                              • bdld
                                                $100,000
                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 11452

                                                #24
                                                i have lots of ccbill links up.

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                                                • Abracadabra_nl
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2005
                                                  • 147

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Bhunter
                                                  well i would expect an reply from the program reps here...

                                                  but they did not.. they don't care...
                                                  I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.

                                                  It's the same story as in April 2009 when they sent an email to all their affiliates which contained the following:

                                                  1) In an attempt to combat any fraudulent activity we will now be charging
                                                  the webmasters for any chargeback fines (24.95 Euros) that may be caused by
                                                  stolen credit cards or other such reasons. This will not effect 99% of
                                                  you, only those abusing the system.
                                                  2) We will be deducting a 5% credit card fee from all signups from now on.
                                                  We will continue to cover the rest of the credit card fees that our company
                                                  incurs.
                                                  3) There will now be a charge of US$2.00 for all epassporte transactions.

                                                  http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2

                                                  Many people got angry here on GFY because of these measures. But in spite of that, OrgyMax didn't respond. So why would they answer this time?
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                                                  • LickMyBalls
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Oct 2009
                                                    • 756

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by bdld
                                                    i have lots of ccbill links up.
                                                    wtf

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                                                    • fatfoo
                                                      ICQ:649699063
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 27763

                                                      #27
                                                      20% and 25% webmaster commissions and 5% revshare. Sounds good. Good luck.
                                                      Send me an email: [email protected]

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                                                      • BIGTYMER
                                                        Junior Achiever
                                                        • Nov 2004
                                                        • 17066

                                                        #28
                                                        Thankfully I wasn't promoting them.

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                                                        • looky_lou
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 1771

                                                          #29
                                                          Links removed.
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                                                          • Abracadabra_nl
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                                                            • Jun 2005
                                                            • 147

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by fatfoo
                                                            20% and 25% webmaster commissions and 5% revshare. Sounds good. Good luck.
                                                            Please add to that:

                                                            1) chargeback fines
                                                            2) a 5% credit card fee from all signups
                                                            3) a charge of 2 US dollars for all epassporte transactions

                                                            http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2a
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                                                            • TrainWreckContent
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                              • 8152

                                                              #31
                                                              seems like a lot of these threads lately about affialtes....i dont promote any but man it sure seems like you have to be careful who you do promote

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                                                              • spunky99
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                • 3462

                                                                #32
                                                                gonna have to go with this response..

                                                                Originally posted by kristin
                                                                Wow .... just wow.

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                                                                • Mike Dutch
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 5607

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Is this only for this site or for all Payserve's existing sites, I assume only for this new site?

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                                                                  • AnalProbe
                                                                    pain in the Ass
                                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                                    • 3727

                                                                    #34
                                                                    620 links removed

                                                                    NEXT

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                                                                    • DennisK
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 1363

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mike Dutch
                                                                      Is this only for this site or for all Payserve's existing sites, I assume only for this new site?
                                                                      As Spazlabs explained above it has nothing to do with the Payserve websites. They asked us if we are willing to take care of there epassporte payments, and we are still discussing about that.


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                                                                      • Bhunter
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                                                                        • Dec 2006
                                                                        • 1119

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Abracadabra_nl
                                                                        I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.

                                                                        It's the same story as in April 2009 when they sent an email to all their affiliates which contained the following:

                                                                        1) In an attempt to combat any fraudulent activity we will now be charging
                                                                        the webmasters for any chargeback fines (24.95 Euros) that may be caused by
                                                                        stolen credit cards or other such reasons. This will not effect 99% of
                                                                        you, only those abusing the system.
                                                                        2) We will be deducting a 5% credit card fee from all signups from now on.
                                                                        We will continue to cover the rest of the credit card fees that our company
                                                                        incurs.
                                                                        3) There will now be a charge of US$2.00 for all epassporte transactions.

                                                                        http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=897470&page=2

                                                                        Many people got angry here on GFY because of these measures. But in spite of that, OrgyMax didn't respond. So why would they answer this time?
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                                                                        • Abracadabra_nl
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                                          • 147

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Bhunter
                                                                          Nou lekker business model dan!
                                                                          Hm, wellicht voor de eigenaar, maar zeker niet voor de affiliates! ;)
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                                                                          • teomaxxx
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                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                            • 2737

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Abracadabra_nl
                                                                            I would be very surprised if they even read GFY. They are a bunch of Fxxxxx amateurs.
                                                                            despite, all that shit, he is still the most richest paysite owner from our country(czech rep.), sometimes even fxxxx amateurs make big bucks. i remember reading some post on czech webmaster board from a friend of the owners, stating that they were doing around 500k net monthly in their best days (when hardcorepartying.com was new). of course, their best days are over.
                                                                            now after my words, you are going to be surprised to seem them reading GFY and denounce my post

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                                                                            • Jack Sparrow
                                                                              Almost goners..
                                                                              • May 2008
                                                                              • 11420

                                                                              #39
                                                                              And even in a thread like this daizzy spams his referlinks loool.

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                                                                              • Bhunter
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                                • 1119

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by teomaxxx
                                                                                despite, all that shit, he is still the most richest paysite owner from our country(czech rep.), sometimes even fxxxx amateurs make big bucks. i remember reading some post on czech webmaster board from a friend of the owners, stating that they were doing around 500k net monthly in their best days (when hardcorepartying.com was new). of course, their best days are over.
                                                                                now after my words, you are going to be surprised to seem them reading GFY and denounce my post
                                                                                I loved their content.. so i was sure he was making bank..
                                                                                but this movement is not how you treat thousands of web partners.

                                                                                even with this change i would continue promoting their site.. but they should have let me know this before.


                                                                                Hm, wellicht voor de eigenaar, maar zeker niet voor de affiliates! ;)
                                                                                beetje sarcasme... maar idd.. zo bedoel ik het ook..

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                                                                                • Mike Dutch
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                  • 5607

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by DennisK
                                                                                  As Spazlabs explained above it has nothing to do with the Payserve websites. They asked us if we are willing to take care of there epassporte payments, and we are still discussing about that.
                                                                                  wow talking about some bad exposure lol, good to hear Payserve keeps it solid.

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                                                                                  • tonyparra
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2008
                                                                                    • 4568

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Vexes
                                                                                    Hey cool. A tube site... except its not a tube site. Its a fake tube site where you have to pay to see any video at all.

                                                                                    NICE

                                                                                    Will be great to get back to the days of 1:20 conversions.
                                                                                    who are you? but actually this may be true

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                                                                                    • MrDeiz
                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                      • 9802

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      further OrgyCash explanation. got it from other guy which is promoting their gay sites

                                                                                      We are simply rebranding our network, nothing is shutting down. Our hetero network is already up and running at Tainster.com and GuysGoCrazy will soon be up at Tainler.com (Bimaxx.com will have the same URL but with the same look as tainster/tainler). This essentially is just a new frontend with all of our videos re-encoded in much higher quality, now available in streaming as well as download, all the GGC DVDs available, and a Facebook style community. We are also going to be running live shows and webcams, which we're already doing on Tainster, but this will take a while to implement on our gay network. We will also be working with other content producers who want to put their content on our site (AEBN style, etc.) so there will eventually be a lot more for customers to choose from than just our parties.
                                                                                      So, ultimately all we're doing is breaking away from our dated network (Orgymax/GGC) and bringing it up to date in 2010 with a lot more features and better quality videos.
                                                                                      If anybody goes to guysgocrazy.com they will just be re-directed to Tainler.com (when it's up and running). All the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal and we are in the process of updating and rebranding our affiliate program as well (and partnering up with payserve to offer more payout options, etc, as mentioned in the email).
                                                                                      Thanks for the email, hope that clears some things up!
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                                                                                      • Hornydog4cooter
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                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                        • 2859

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Come and get it free cookie stuffing from Daizzzzzyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!

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                                                                                        • Abracadabra_nl
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2005
                                                                                          • 147

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                                                          further OrgyCash explanation. got it from other guy which is promoting their gay sites
                                                                                          All the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal and we are in the process of updating and rebranding our affiliate program as well (and partnering up with payserve to offer more payout options, etc, as mentioned in the email).

                                                                                          But what is meant with "all the affiliate linking codes will still work as normal"? Does this mean that a party hardcore link will not get redirected to this news teamster site? And does this also mean that affiliates who use the orgymax links will retain the 50% pay out?
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                                                                                          • Cyber Fucker
                                                                                            Hmm
                                                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                                                            • 12642

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Links dropped

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                                                                                            • tonyparra
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                                                                                              • Jul 2008
                                                                                              • 4568

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Hornydog4cooter
                                                                                              Come and get it free cookie stuffing from Daizzzzzyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!
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