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  • OfferGrindScott
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2014
    • 115

    #1

    Business New Affiliate Network 60+ Adult PPL Offers

    Hello Everyone,

    I was wanting to let everyone know about our new affiliate network OfferGrind.com. We have 60+ adult PPL offers in niches such as general adult offers, adult dating, adult gay dating offers, and adult cam offers. We offer top industry payouts, with rates as high as $6.00 per SOI.

    Here is what you can expect while working with OfferGrind...


    ? Achieve maximum ROI, with top converting offers that actually convert
    ? 100?s of international mainstream & adult offers
    ? Industry leading support
    ? Real time, and accurate reporting
    ? Peace of mind, as we offer on time payments that you can bank on


    We would love a chance to earn your business, and prove to you why we are the best.

    Get your grind on today, at OfferGrind.com!

  • TeenCat
    Too lazy to set a koala
    • Jan 2007
    • 16139

    #2
    congrats on the launch, it looks very similar to crak, are you part of them?

    6bot
    / Coming again very soon!
    Svit Zlin Radio 24/7!

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    • OfferGrindScott
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2014
      • 115

      #3
      Thank you! No we are a completely different network.

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      • Mediamix
        Dutch Webmaster!
        • Sep 2013
        • 3228

        #4
        Congrats indeed!
        Sig too big

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        • MrTrollkien
          So Fucking Banned
          • Mar 2014
          • 2360

          #5
          Gonna check it soon.

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          • OfferGrindScott
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2014
            • 115

            #6
            Thanks everyone on the congrats! Most of our offers do not have any lead caps, so we do not limit or hinder your earnings potential. Also some of our cam offers start out as high as $4 per lead.

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            • Jay - SMASH
              Custom User Title
              • Jul 2012
              • 463

              #7
              Imitation is the highest form of flattery. This gonna be good lol

              http://crakrevenue.com/

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              • Niktamer
                Lord of the Leads
                • May 2005
                • 3021

                #8
                Kind of flattering.

                Mind showing us what are those cams offers.

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                • OfferGrindScott
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 115

                  #9
                  @ Jay and Nick.. no imitation...and I am sorry to hear you guys don't like competition. I am sure we wont impede your business too much.....

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                  • BossDVDs
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 835

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cman85
                    @ Jay and Nick.. no imitation...and I am sorry to hear you guys don't like competition. I am sure we wont impede your business too much.....
                    Can you provide a few examples of your best performing offers?

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                    • OfferGrindScott
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 115

                      #11
                      Sure add me on Skype at scott.offergrind, or email me directly @ scott (at) offergrind.com. Lets chat more. Thanks

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                      • BossDVDs
                        Confirmed User
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 835

                        #12
                        Originally posted by cman85
                        Sure add me on Skype at scott.offergrind, or email me directly @ scott (at) offergrind.com. Lets chat more. Thanks
                        Please just post them here so we can all see ...

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                        • BossDVDs
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 835

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cman85
                          Sure add me on Skype at scott.offergrind, or email me directly @ scott (at) offergrind.com. Lets chat more. Thanks
                          By the way, your site looks messed up ... below is a screen shot of your menu when my browser is opened at a normal width

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                          • OfferGrindScott
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 115

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BossDVDs
                            By the way, your site looks messed up ... below is a screen shot of your menu when my browser is opened at a normal width

                            It is showing up fine for me at regular 100 resolution, but I do see anything past 110 res, the tabs slide under the logo, I will have our Developer look at it thanks for the tip. Below is screenshot at 100 resolution.

                            Last edited by OfferGrindScott; 10-07-2014, 08:33 PM.

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                            • BossDVDs
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by cman85
                              It is showing up fine for me at regular 100 resolution, but I do see anything past 110 res, the tabs slide under the logo, I will have our Developer look at it thanks for the tip. Below is screenshot at 100 resolution.
                              I'm viewing at 100% resolution using Chrome. Besides, isn't this just a theme you purchased? I'd go back to whoever you bought it from and let them know it's fucked up.

                              So when do we get to see the offers? Please share a few of your top converting offers so the GFY community can discuss.

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                              • OfferGrindScott
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jan 2014
                                • 115

                                #16
                                No this is not just a theme we purchased. We are a private CPA network, and we do not just share our offers with the world. Like I said you can you message me if you are serious, and we can go into more detail. Thanks

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                                • bluebook18
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2012
                                  • 4082

                                  #17
                                  congrats on the launched looks good, will check you out

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                                  • OfferGrindScott
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2014
                                    • 115

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bluebook18
                                    congrats on the launched looks good, will check you out
                                    Thanks, I appreciate it. Look forward to earning your business!

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                                    • BossDVDs
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 835

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cman85
                                      No this is not just a theme we purchased. We are a private CPA network, and we do not just share our offers with the world. Like I said you can you message me if you are serious, and we can go into more detail. Thanks
                                      Are you sure bro?

                                      This is the theme your site is based on:

                                      http://www.activeaxon.com/html/arwa/...-version1.html

                                      You even have the ARWA logo here ON YOUR SERVER:

                                      http://www.offergrind.com/images/logo1.png

                                      But I know, I know ... I'm sure it's a rogue designer who must have screwed you. Well I'll upload a screen shot for you just so you have proof to show your "designer" that he's full of shit



                                      Also, speaking of this designer ... your server is WIDE open as far as security is concerned. I'd be more than happy to help you fix your problems but (1) you're not sharing your offers publically and (2) I'm starting to sense that you're just a 1-man show trying to act tough... if I were you I'd just admit you're a 1-man show (since you're the owner which is cool, more power to you) but definitely don't try to get all crazy up in here cuz you'll be eaten alive.

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                                      • OfferGrindScott
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2014
                                        • 115

                                        #20
                                        Hey man we are not a one man show, there are several people that work for me. When it comes to the design thanks for pointing this out, was not aware of that. I am not trying to come off as big and bad here, I am just simply trying to promote my new network, that's it instead of getting into a pissing match here. Like I said we are a private CPA network, we are more than happy to indulge our offers to potential affiliates on private basis. That's all.
                                        Last edited by OfferGrindScott; 10-07-2014, 09:16 PM.

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                                        • BossDVDs
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 835

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by cman85
                                          Hey man we are not a one man show, there are several people that work for me. When it comes to the design thanks for pointing this out, was not aware of that. I am not trying to come off as big and bad here, I am just simply trying to promote my new network, that's it instead of getting into a pissing match here. Like I said we are a private CPA network, we are more than happy to indulge our offers to potential affiliates on private basis. That's all.
                                          I'm willing to bet that you'd learn twice as much as what you think you already know just by harnessing the power of GFY. You're on here trying to promote a "private" program, which is silly because really if I wanted to I'd wait a week to signup ... get some of your offers ... and then post them back on this thread. But really I don't have the attention span for that and by then you'll have already ruined your chance for free help.

                                          So far all I've gathered is the following:

                                          1. Your designer sucks. He stole a template and "lied" to you ... that's of course if you're telling the truth which really at this point it's more convenient for you to simply say what you said above to shift blame away from you not knowing whats up as the owner of your network.

                                          2. You don't have a programmer and your stats backend is 3rd party crap (by nature since you don't own your offers you're relying on cookie/postback tracking so affiliates will receive a natural "shave" whenever they promote your program).

                                          3. You payout 1x per month ... unless of course you're a "whale" in which case maybe you'll payout 2x per month - either way it's a joke to put that much trust into a new network especially when there are dozens of established players (Crak being one of them) who have paid millions and truly have great converting offers. And lets be honest here, you don't have any affiliates earning $3k per week.

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                                          • OfferGrindScott
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2014
                                            • 115

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by BossDVDs
                                            I'm willing to bet that you'd learn twice as much as what you think you already know just by harnessing the power of GFY. You're on here trying to promote a "private" program, which is silly because really if I wanted to I'd wait a week to signup ... get some of your offers ... and then post them back on this thread. But really I don't have the attention span for that and by then you'll have already ruined your chance for free help.

                                            So far all I've gathered is the following:

                                            1. Your designer sucks. He stole a template and "lied" to you ... that's of course if you're telling the truth which really at this point it's more convenient for you to simply say what you said above to shift blame away from you not knowing whats up as the owner of your network.

                                            2. You don't have a programmer and your stats backend is 3rd party crap (by nature since you don't own your offers you're relying on cookie/postback tracking so affiliates will receive a natural "shave" whenever they promote your program).

                                            3. You payout 1x per month ... unless of course you're a "whale" in which case maybe you'll payout 2x per month - either way it's a joke to put that much trust into a new network especially when there are dozens of established players (Crak being one of them) who have paid millions and truly have great converting offers. And lets be honest here, you don't have any affiliates earning $3k per week.
                                            Like I said I am not getting into a pissing match here. You are not correct, other than the fact that maybe there are some design flaws. Thanks for reaching out there...far out there on your opinions, however I think you are reaching for the moon, or have some other hidden agenda to bash my network from the get go. Maybe you are associated with Jay or Nick? However whatever the case may be if you are not interested in doing business with my network, then please leave your far fetched comments to yourself. Thanks, and I am done responding to your comments.

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                                            • fuzebox
                                              making it rain
                                              • Oct 2003
                                              • 22351

                                              #23
                                              Unfortunately you went about your launch on GFY all wrong.

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                                              • BossDVDs
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 835

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by cman85
                                                Like I said I am not getting into a pissing match here. You are not correct, other than the fact that maybe there are some design flaws. Thanks for reaching out there...far out there on your opinions, however I think you are reaching for the moon, or have some other hidden agenda to bash my network from the get go. Maybe you are associated with Jay or Nick? However whatever the case may be if you are not interested in doing business with my network, then please leave your far fetched comments to yourself. Thanks, and I am done responding to your comments.
                                                I've never met, spoken to, nor am I associated with Jay or Nick. I'm not trying to bash your network and like I said I'm willing to help you out ... I just think it's fun to point out the chinks in the armor especially when someone comes onto GFY trying to represent like they're a top dawg. I'm pretty sure I'm very correct on my statements and again you're failing to see the value of the help I'm willing to provide.

                                                Anyway good luck with the launch but I think you need to rethink your strategy a bit

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                                                • OfferGrindScott
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2014
                                                  • 115

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BossDVDs
                                                  I've never met, spoken to, nor am I associated with Jay or Nick. I'm not trying to bash your network and like I said I'm willing to help you out ... I just think it's fun to point out the chinks in the armor especially when someone comes onto GFY trying to represent like they're a top dawg. I'm pretty sure I'm very correct on my statements and again you're failing to see the value of the help I'm willing to provide.

                                                  Anyway good luck with the launch but I think you need to rethink your strategy a bit
                                                  Hey thanks for the polite response back, I appreciate it!

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                                                  • Klen
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 32235

                                                    #26
                                                    Are you related to adsimilis?Your signup form matches their.

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                                                    • DamageX
                                                      Marketing & Strategy
                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                      • 14293

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by cman85
                                                      @ Jay and Nick.. no imitation...
                                                      LOL, you could at least have changed the color scheme...
                                                      Whitehat is for chumps

                                                      If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                      • Konda
                                                        ...
                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                        • 2280

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                        Are you related to adsimilis?Your signup form matches their.
                                                        Both are on Cake, that's why

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                                                        • Klen
                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                          • 32235

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Konda
                                                          Both are on Cake, that's why
                                                          Aha.For those who doesn't know what it's cake,it is a PHP framework.

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                                                          • Niktamer
                                                            Lord of the Leads
                                                            • May 2005
                                                            • 3021

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by cman85
                                                            @ Jay and Nick.. no imitation...and I am sorry to hear you guys don't like competition. I am sure we wont impede your business too much......
                                                            Where did I say I don't like competition?

                                                            We can all see the color scheme and design is very similar to us, and as Jay Said, Imitation is a the best flattery, no offence taken.

                                                            I asked to see your offers as I could be interested to send you traffic, but you reacted in a very defensive way.

                                                            I don't see my competitors as enemies, but as possible business partners as we share the same goals.. and needs.

                                                            Apple and Samsung do lots of business together

                                                            We provides offers to tens of networks (competitors?) as we own and create tons of stuff (over 100 staff here). We also run offers from other networks, even if we could go direct, this is called business diplomacy or simply business.

                                                            I dont doubt your team have experience and that you run great sales, but I highly suggest that you show off some of your best offers.

                                                            If you want to be private, dont go on a public forum to lunch your program, of course people will want to see the real deal.
                                                            Last edited by Niktamer; 10-08-2014, 03:27 AM.

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                                                            • Jay - SMASH
                                                              Custom User Title
                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                              • 463

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by DamageX
                                                              LOL, you could at least have changed the color scheme...
                                                              So damn true

                                                              To the OfferGrinder..

                                                              We are only pointing out the blatant stealing of the CrakRev colour scheme and site layout. That was all.

                                                              What are on time payments you can bank on? Net0, Net5, Net7?

                                                              From your website: Rest assured as we offer on time payments that you can bank on. We have never missed a payment, and sometimes pay early.


                                                              How could you have possibly done that when your site is less than a month old? At least your LLC isn't even a month old.

                                                              Like Nik said, trying to advertise yourself as private network and posting it on the biggest industry forum doesn't make much sense either.

                                                              Anyway, good luck with your *network*

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                                                              • Konda
                                                                ...
                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                • 2280

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                Aha.For those who doesn't know what it's cake,it is a PHP framework.
                                                                No Cake is the affiliate network software they use
                                                                Last edited by Konda; 10-08-2014, 03:51 AM.

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                                                                • Klen
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 32235

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Konda
                                                                  No Cake is the affiliate network software they use
                                                                  So that means how they are some sort of whitelabel ?

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                                                                  • OfferGrindScott
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2014
                                                                    • 115

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                    So that means how they are some sort of whitelabel ?
                                                                    As Konda said, we do use Cake. It is a industry leading third party tracking software, that 90% of the larger networks use, that don't have their own in house tracking platform. It is not a whitelabel network in regards to offers or the actual network site is concerned, just simply a sophisticated software that runs the backend on the tracking and accounting.

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                                                                    • yuu.design
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                                      • 25924

                                                                      #35
                                                                      congrats guys!
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                                                                      • OfferGrindScott
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2014
                                                                        • 115

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by yuu
                                                                        congrats guys!
                                                                        Thanks!

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                                                                        • Roald
                                                                          SecretFriends.com
                                                                          • May 2001
                                                                          • 27910

                                                                          #37
                                                                          great thread!


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                                                                          • OfferGrindScott
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2014
                                                                            • 115

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                                                            great thread!
                                                                            I am loving it, free publicity..either way even though there is some bashing going on back and forth.

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                                                                            • Roald
                                                                              SecretFriends.com
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 27910

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by cman85
                                                                              I am loving it, free publicity..either way even though there is some bashing going on back and forth.
                                                                              so what are your top offers?


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                                                                              • rabbit
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                                • 2124

                                                                                #40
                                                                                you're wasting everyone's time by not posting at least a few of your offers.

                                                                                Got a paysite? Get it reviewed by RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn

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                                                                                • OfferGrindScott
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2014
                                                                                  • 115

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Roald
                                                                                  so what are your top offers?
                                                                                  Here are few hot offers right now, we have a couple that are doing much better than these, that we have ran internally however those are on invite only reserved for top affiliates who develop a rapport with us in sending solid traffic.

                                                                                  Dating
                                                                                  XXXBlackBook
                                                                                  Just Hookup
                                                                                  FlirtBuddies
                                                                                  LonelyWifeHookups
                                                                                  Milfaholics
                                                                                  BlackCrush
                                                                                  BBWDesires
                                                                                  Affair Alert
                                                                                  SmashYourFriends

                                                                                  Cams
                                                                                  SexPlayCam
                                                                                  Exposed Webcam
                                                                                  Slut Roulette

                                                                                  Gay
                                                                                  GCruise

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                                                                                  • DamageX
                                                                                    Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 14293

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by cman85
                                                                                    Here are few hot offers right now, we have a couple that are doing much better than these, that we have ran internally however those are on invite only reserved for top affiliates who develop a rapport with us in sending solid traffic.

                                                                                    Dating
                                                                                    XXXBlackBook
                                                                                    Just Hookup
                                                                                    FlirtBuddies
                                                                                    LonelyWifeHookups
                                                                                    Milfaholics
                                                                                    BlackCrush
                                                                                    BBWDesires
                                                                                    Affair Alert
                                                                                    SmashYourFriends

                                                                                    Cams
                                                                                    SexPlayCam
                                                                                    Exposed Webcam
                                                                                    Slut Roulette

                                                                                    Gay
                                                                                    GCruise
                                                                                    Those aren't offers.
                                                                                    Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                    If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                    • OfferGrindScott
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2014
                                                                                      • 115

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Niktamer
                                                                                      Where did I say I don't like competition?

                                                                                      We can all see the color scheme and design is very similar to us, and as Jay Said, Imitation is a the best flattery, no offence taken.

                                                                                      I asked to see your offers as I could be interested to send you traffic, but you reacted in a very defensive way.

                                                                                      I don't see my competitors as enemies, but as possible business partners as we share the same goals.. and needs.

                                                                                      Apple and Samsung do lots of business together

                                                                                      We provides offers to tens of networks (competitors?) as we own and create tons of stuff (over 100 staff here). We also run offers from other networks, even if we could go direct, this is called business diplomacy or simply business.

                                                                                      I dont doubt your team have experience and that you run great sales, but I highly suggest that you show off some of your best offers.

                                                                                      If you want to be private, dont go on a public forum to lunch your program, of course people will want to see the real deal.
                                                                                      @ Nick

                                                                                      If you believe there is a similar feel to our site, then I do apologize as that is and was never our attention. With that being said, I do not agree with this, as I believe our sites are two totally different sites in regards to overall layout, except for fact we may have somewhat similar colors which are common colors in the first place. And I don't agree with Jay that we are imitation, if that were the case it would be like saying any site that has similar colors or a style that is similar is a imitation. For example GFY is the similar to WickedFire, or that Facebook similar Myspace (when Myspace was actually popular), they both have some similarities but both are two totally different sites.

                                                                                      In regards to fear of competition, I think I may have jumped the gun on things in regards to yourself.

                                                                                      Feel free to add me on Skype scott.offergrind, and maybe we can do some business in the future.

                                                                                      Best Regards,
                                                                                      Scott
                                                                                      Last edited by OfferGrindScott; 10-08-2014, 05:42 AM.

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                                                                                      • rabbit
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 2124

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        so you're reselling some of crak's offers?

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                                                                                        • PAR
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • May 2005
                                                                                          • 1835

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Congrats on the launch.

                                                                                          I can more than accept that launching a new product has many components and that an owner of a company may not know 100% about everything that makes up their design/GUI/or even backend.

                                                                                          I'm sure Nick and the team over at Crak could give 2 shits about the theme you use etc.. Just look at his post it's a biz offer that even a blind man can see...

                                                                                          That said for some people with volumes of traffic,
                                                                                          for them to take the time to join your network they will want to see what your top offers are and the payout rate etc..

                                                                                          Why would a large traffic source join just to find out all they are getting access to are offers etc they already have access to or are already running...

                                                                                          What's your differentiating factor?
                                                                                          You use Cake, there are upsides to that.
                                                                                          What tools do you have that will help increase the eCPM?
                                                                                          What are some of your offers?
                                                                                          What marketing tools do you have?

                                                                                          You have some peoples attention sell us on what you feel makes you different or possibly better. Sales 101 Features & Benefits... What are they...

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                                                                                          • crak_vince
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Oct 2012
                                                                                            • 81

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by cman85
                                                                                            Exposed Webcam
                                                                                            Slut Roulette
                                                                                            Hey Cman85,

                                                                                            Happy to see you have an interest in redistributing our offers but for that, you'll need to register to our Authorized Partner program. You know, we like to know who we're working with and who's promoting our stuff, simple as that.

                                                                                            Please reach out to me on skype or by email so we can straighten this out.

                                                                                            Hey, nice site btw, I love the style ;)

                                                                                            Thanks.

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                                                                                            • seeric
                                                                                              ..........
                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                              • 41917

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Not hard to find out their offers. Google is your friend.


                                                                                              .
                                                                                              Last edited by seeric; 10-29-2014, 06:22 PM.

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                                                                                              • edgeprod
                                                                                                Permanently Gone
                                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                                • 10019

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                The template design is cringe-worthy. Crak is king, this POS isn't even fit to be the court's motley fool.

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