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  • Best-In-BC
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    #1

    SO now you need two peaces of photo id with a signature on it for paxum ?

    SO now you need two peaces of photo id with a signature on it for paxum ? My country only gives out one unless you have a passporte which I Dont. They should know this since im part of the same country. All for a replacement card.
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  • bigluv
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    #2
    Paxum needs to get over itself already.
    Bump for an official answer on this because if this is now standard, I'm going to be pissed.

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    • _Richard_
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      #3
      can you get a bcid with a dl?

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      • Best-In-BC
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        #4
        Originally posted by _Richard_
        can you get a bcid with a dl?
        No, its illegal.
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        • Sly
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          #5
          Most Americans only have one ID as well.
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          • Best-In-BC
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            #6
            Ive been talking to Ruth, shes great, there call support had no answers, well they said there nothing they can do, its what there bank needs, I guess ill be doing wires.
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            • Fat Panda
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              #7
              is this new? most people dont have 2 photo ids.

              paxum is ridiculous

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              • _Richard_
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                #8
                Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                No, its illegal.
                damn not to derail your thread:

                'The new BC Services Card will provide secure access to provincial government services. Starting February 15, 2013, new cards will be issued with the goal of eventually replacing all existing CareCards, Driver?s Licences and B.C. ID.'

                why does icbc need to know my carecard number

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                • Lukke
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SAC
                  is this new? most people dont have 2 photo ids.
                  Are you kidding? Most people DO have 2 photo ids. Goverment ID (or driving licence) and passport.

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                  • _Richard_
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Lukke
                    Are you kidding? Most people DO have 2 photo ids. Goverment ID (or driving licence) and passport.
                    not in north america

                    for example, if i were to drive north, i could do so for 15+ hours, and never leave the province

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                    • Fat Panda
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lukke
                      Are you kidding? Most people DO have 2 photo ids. Goverment ID (or driving licence) and passport.
                      well 66% of amerikans dont have a passport

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                      • signupdamnit
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                        #12
                        "Will you stop using PAXUM if things continue? "

                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                        Stupid thread for fear filled girls. Like what kind of idiot gets scared with someone else post? Look, there's enough bullshit on this forum as it is, we need to stop the BS adult is dead, go bitcoin losers and oh no paxum threads that all concern crying scammers.
                        http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19646139&postcount=22

                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                        http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19646441&postcount=11

                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                        I Love Paxum, Just seems to be alot of whiners on here
                        http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19412368&postcount=43

                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                        Yeah, let the scamers fuck us all
                        http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18893667&postcount=3

                        Too many whiners and drama queens here. What is Paxum supposed to do just let the scammers do whatever they want?

                        Seriously yeah it's a hassle and I agree about the ID policy. Real criminals can fake this stuff anyway. All it does is keep honest people honest. Going overboard with it helps very little but annoys a lot.

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                        • Tom_PM
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                          #13
                          I literally do not even have one valid photo ID. I haven't driven in many years so have no valid drivers license and I've never had a passport or college ID or anything else with a picture and a signature. Luckily nobody ever asks to see one. Not sure what I'd do other than shrug my shoulders and say sorry, don't have one to show you.
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                          • WarChild
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                            #14
                            LOL at not having a passport.
                            .

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                            • Best-In-BC
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by signupdamnit
                              "Will you stop using PAXUM if things continue? "



                              http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19646139&postcount=22



                              http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19646441&postcount=11



                              http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19412368&postcount=43



                              http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18893667&postcount=3

                              Too many whiners and drama queens here. What is Paxum supposed to do just let the scammers do whatever they want?

                              Seriously yeah it's a hassle and I agree about the ID policy. Real criminals can fake this stuff anyway. All it does is keep honest people honest. Going overboard with it helps very little but annoys a lot.
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                              • Tom_PM
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                                #16
                                Most countries are pretty small so passports are super common. I could drive for 5 or 6 days straight and never leave my country though, so can't imagine why I'd need a passport. It also takes what.. a year to get one in the US?

                                I realize I said I have no DL then said I could drive.. I'm just sayin'.. merica' has a wide ass. Takes a while to get to the other side.
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                                • Dankasaur
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Lukke
                                  Are you kidding? Most people DO have 2 photo ids. Goverment ID (or driving licence) and passport.
                                  I have an ID/Drivers License but I do not have a passport. I have never left the US, I have never needed a passport.

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                                  • georgeyw
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                    I have an ID/Drivers License but I do not have a passport. I have never left the US, I have never needed a passport.
                                    WTF seriously?

                                    Get a passport and explore a little, there is a great big world out there, full of fucking amazing things
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                                    • Best-In-BC
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by georgeyw
                                      WTF seriously?

                                      Get a passport and explore a little, there is a great big world out there, full of fucking amazing things
                                      Listen up euro, cause only a euro would think we should have one. its $300 for a passporte and I can drive for a week without hitting a border, so please, there is no need for a Canadian to own one.
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                                      • Best-In-BC
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                                        #20
                                        Its illegal to ask for a Social Secrutiy number in Canada and guess what they just asked me. Jesus.
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                                        • PornDiscounts-V
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                                          #21
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                                          • signupdamnit
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                            Listen up euro, cause only a euro would think we should have one. its $300 for a passporte and I can drive for a week without hitting a border, so please, there is no need for a Canadian to own one.
                                            Are they still willing to close your account and send the funds by check or do they have some "policy" "for your protection" against that?

                                            This is why I decided to never get a Paxum account.

                                            Their slogan ought to be:

                                            "Paxum. The hassle company."

                                            Oh it's great for sponsors, big companies, and reps sending hundreds of thousands a month to others who use their corporate IDs. But for individuals they are a huge pain in the ass.

                                            You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                            • pgmorin
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                                              #23
                                              Why this topic come back every 2 week? I mean if you dont like the way they work then just dont use them.
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                                              • signupdamnit
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pgmorin
                                                Why this topic come back every 2 week? I mean if you dont like the way they work then just dont use them.
                                                Best-In-BC used to say the same thing once. But now he's complaining too.
                                                Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-12-2013, 05:51 AM.

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                                                • x-rate
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                  Its illegal to ask for a Social Secrutiy number in Canada and guess what they just asked me. Jesus.
                                                  There's a difference between something illegal and don't have the obligation to supply it....

                                                  On every single credit card demand form it's ask the SSN so are you telling us that Royal Bank, MBNA (which I get a form mailled every 2 week), CIBC etc... are all doing something illegal on all credit card form?

                                                  If they are trying to figure a way to accept you by asking you your SSN and you don't want take that opportunity it's up to you but stop crying on board that they are doing something illegal when it's not!

                                                  I live in Quebec, I have an health card, a driver license and a passport.... but I don't use Paxum
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                                                  • AdultKing
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                                                    #26
                                                    Two pieces of photo ID is pretty easy, but two pieces with a signature on each ?

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                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                      Listen up euro, cause only a euro would think we should have one. its $300 for a passporte and I can drive for a week without hitting a border, so please, there is no need for a Canadian to own one.
                                                      lol, you dont need a passport in most european countries since there are no borders anymore. i can drive through 10-15 countries without being stopped once

                                                      but in all countries besides England photo IDs are mandatory (i think) - but not passports

                                                      and georgeyw is from australia - not really a small country either

                                                      but the point is: travelling broadens your personal horizon, something a lot of people on here would desperately need

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                                                      • RuthB
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                        SO now you need two peaces of photo id with a signature on it for paxum ? My country only gives out one unless you have a passporte which I Dont. They should know this since im part of the same country. All for a replacement card.
                                                        Our card issuer is currently rejecting Drivers Licenses as primary ID as they are not classified as primary ID with them due to local laws. It is not an official ID there and that is the same in some countries. The US and Canada are an exception as these countries don't have a national ID provided as standard issue to citizens. For example, everyone in Europe does.

                                                        If you don't have a photo ID such as a passport we will accept a SSN/SIN as primary and a DL as secondary in such circumstances. For Canadian Residents we will also accept Medicare in place of SSN/SIN.

                                                        Best-in-BC, you had asked me about your Firearms License, and that is acceptable as a secondary ID but would not be enough submitted with your DL since both are secondary ID's and we require at least one primary ID.

                                                        Do you have medicare that you can provide to us? If you can, please take a scan/photo and submit it through your account in My Account >> Profile Settings >> Identity Confirmation

                                                        If you have one, we do also accept Canadian Citizenship Cards
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                                                        • AdultKing
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RuthB
                                                          Our card issuer is currently rejecting Drivers Licenses as primary ID as they are not classified as primary ID with them due to local laws. It is not an official ID there and that is the same in some countries. The US and Canada are an exception as these countries don't have a national ID provided as standard issue to citizens. For example, everyone in Europe does.
                                                          So what's the verdict for Australians ?

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                                                          • Best-In-BC
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                            Best-In-BC used to say the same thing once. But now he's complaining too.
                                                            Yeah
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                                                            • Best-In-BC
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by RuthB
                                                              If you don't have a photo ID such as a passport we will accept a SSN/SIN as primary and a DL as secondary in such circumstances. For Canadian Residents we will also accept Medicare in place of SSN/SIN.
                                                              Medicare ? My care card has no photo on it, will that work ?
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                                                              • Fat Panda
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                                                                #32
                                                                this thread is VERY scary

                                                                sure is funny with all the bullshit in amerika I can still open a bank account at Bank of Amerika in 10 mins without submitting a single scanned id or other bullshit

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                                                                • Best-In-BC
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by x-rate

                                                                  If they are trying to figure a way to accept you by asking you your SSN and you don't want take that opportunity it's up to you but stop crying on board that they are doing something illegal when it's not!
                                                                  Yeah, Ill be soo happy for them to send all the info for them to send to a foreign bank with all the info to steal my identity, sounds like a great idea.
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                                                                  • Dankasaur
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                    WTF seriously?

                                                                    Get a passport and explore a little, there is a great big world out there, full of fucking amazing things
                                                                    I plan to visit a few countries sometime down the road, but not in my immediate future. No need for a passport.

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                                                                    • Fat Panda
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Ruth, Does all this info get sent to Belize?

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                                                                      • x-rate
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                                        Medicare ? My care card has no photo on it, will that work ?
                                                                        They asked you your SSN card and havent got the same reaction?
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                                                                        • epitome
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Best-In-BC
                                                                          Its illegal to ask for a Social Secrutiy number in Canada and guess what they just asked me. Jesus.
                                                                          Oh, you didn't notice that Paxum is no longer a Canadian company, but is now based in Belize? Noticed that right around the drama threads of having to send wires to Romania or other places that didn't make sense.

                                                                          Straight from their terms:



                                                                          Becoming more like ePass by the day.

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                                                                          • Best-In-BC
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by x-rate
                                                                            They asked you your SSN card and havent got the same reaction?
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                                                                            • AdultKing
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by epitome
                                                                              Oh, you didn't notice that Paxum is no longer a Canadian company, but is now based in Belize? Noticed that right around the drama threads of having to send wires to Romania or other places that didn't make sense.

                                                                              Straight from their terms:



                                                                              Becoming more like ePass by the day.
                                                                              But but but, in another thread Chris tried to make out like they were still a Canadian company...

                                                                              Originally posted by Chris
                                                                              A quick gfy search would of yield all of your answers. We have addresses this a few times - as recent as last week.

                                                                              Yes we do use a romanian bank. Romania is part of the European Union so it falls under those banking regulations. We use banks ALL OVER THE WORLD.

                                                                              As far as who the owner is - It's Octav Moise. He is at most of the shows and more than willing to talk to anyone. It's never been a secret who he is.

                                                                              To discriminate against a person based on nationality is just childish.

                                                                              A person who does good business does good business no matter what their nationality is.

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                                                                              • Fat Panda
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Now Paxum will DISAPPEAR from this thread.

                                                                                BELIZE

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                                                                                • Best-In-BC
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                  Now Paxum will DISAPPEAR from this thread.

                                                                                  BELIZE
                                                                                  There cards always said that the card/bank was from there, Im not surprised by this, just will not send them my Social Security Card.
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                                                                                    #42
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                                                                                    • facialfreak
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by SAC
                                                                                      well 66% of amerikans dont have a passport
                                                                                      72% of all statistics are made up on the spot ...

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                                                                                      • Harmon
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by RuthB
                                                                                        Our card issuer is currently rejecting Drivers Licenses as primary ID as they are not classified as primary ID with them due to local laws. It is not an official ID there and that is the same in some countries. The US and Canada are an exception as these countries don't have a national ID provided as standard issue to citizens. For example, everyone in Europe does.

                                                                                        If you don't have a photo ID such as a passport we will accept a SSN/SIN as primary and a DL as secondary in such circumstances. For Canadian Residents we will also accept Medicare in place of SSN/SIN.

                                                                                        Best-in-BC, you had asked me about your Firearms License, and that is acceptable as a secondary ID but would not be enough submitted with your DL since both are secondary ID's and we require at least one primary ID.

                                                                                        Do you have medicare that you can provide to us? If you can, please take a scan/photo and submit it through your account in My Account >> Profile Settings >> Identity Confirmation

                                                                                        If you have one, we do also accept Canadian Citizenship Cards
                                                                                        This is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read on GFY. I mean EVERRRRRRRRRRR. And I make some dumb fucking posts.

                                                                                        Driver's Licenses not a PRIMARY ID?

                                                                                        Listen everyone. This Paxum pile of shit is a joke. Anybody that hangs around with them and gets burned in the end... I will do nothing more and point my finger at you Nelson Muntz style and say, "HA HA".

                                                                                        I suggest you all cash your shit out ASAP. You have been warned.
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                                                                                        • candyflip
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Harmon
                                                                                          This is some of the dumbest shit I have ever read on GFY. I mean EVERRRRRRRRRRR. And I make some dumb fucking posts.

                                                                                          Driver's Licenses not a PRIMARY ID?

                                                                                          Listen everyone. This Paxum pile of shit is a joke. Anybody that hangs around with them and gets burned in the end... I will do nothing more and point my finger at you Nelson Muntz style and say, "HA HA".

                                                                                          I suggest you all cash your shit out ASAP. You have been warned.
                                                                                          Anyone that is STILL dealing with Paxum after all the shit we've read, including this is a fucking idiot.

                                                                                          No shit they'll accept a photocopy of your SS card, it's what they fuck they're going to do with it that bothers me.

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                                                                                          • fitzmulti
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Dankasaur
                                                                                            I have an ID/Drivers License but I do not have a passport. I have never left the US, I have never needed a passport.
                                                                                            I don't either...Doubt I'll ever need one. I'm not going anywhere...

                                                                                            Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                            WTF seriously?

                                                                                            Get a passport and explore a little, there is a great big world out there, full of fucking amazing things
                                                                                            And YES, seriously...There's plenty to "explore" here in the US w/o dealing w/ going out of the country and then, WTF would I NEED a passport for?


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                                                                                              • bigluv
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jul 2008
                                                                                                • 850

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                This is ridiculous.

                                                                                                At this point, I am no longer giving paxum the benefit of the doubt.

                                                                                                A DL not primary ID? I can go into any bank in canada and get a bank account and credit with a DL.

                                                                                                Bit by bit paxum has become scammier and scammier. This just is not right.

                                                                                                As soon as this comes up for me I'll be making other arrangements.

                                                                                                If Paxum ever becomes an Epass , what are the chances a rogue employee, or even NOT a rogue employee makes off with all our personal info? This is bullshit.

                                                                                                FUCK PAXUM

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                                                                                                • Fat Panda
                                                                                                  Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                                                  • 13296

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  ROFL does it SHOCK anyone PAXUM reps have quickly disappeared from this thread?

                                                                                                  Maybe the Internet is spotty in BELIZE

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                                                                                                  • RuthB
                                                                                                    Let's Get Paxumized!
                                                                                                    • May 2005
                                                                                                    • 7248

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Paxum is a Canadian Incorporated Company. We were incorporated in the province of Quebec in 2007. This is a fact. Paxum is also registered as a company in various other countries, including Belize.

                                                                                                    Paxum provides the Paxum prepaid Mastercard to all verified clients who wish to request one. The Paxum prepaid Mastercard is provided through our relationship with Choice Bank of Belize. Hence, since we issue our cards from Belize, we need to mention that in our Terms.

                                                                                                    This information has been clearly stated from the beginning when we were repeatedly asked our location and where everything was based. This has NOT changed.

                                                                                                    The only thing that has changed recently is that Choice bank has now changed their rules and will not authorize a Paxum prepaid Mastercard with just a drivers license. We are in negotiations with them to reverse this rule, but unfortunately such things take time. As a result, in the interim, in order to provide new Paxum cards to our clients, we must continue to abide by the rules laid out by Choice Bank and request the appropriate identification.

                                                                                                    If you do not wish to have a Paxum Mastercard then you do not need to provide any documentation beyond the regular documentation we request for account verification (namely a picture ID and proof of address, and a DL is still acceptable as primary ID for account verification with Paxum). Paxum has ALWAYS provided alternative withdrawal methods such as wire, check, EFT, and to an already existing credit card besides the option of the Paxum Mastercard.
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