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Old 04-20-2012, 09:03 PM   #1
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Just noticed Naughty at Home switched billing from CCBILL to Epoch without notifying affiliates.

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour5/home.html
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Our link still goes to CCbill

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Yessir I confirmed Roald, it does goes to the Epoch join page
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Wow! Pretty cool she is still out there. I remember chatting with her in 2002. Sucks if this was on purpose.
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Can stats & sales be tracked thru ccbill with an epoch billing page?
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Can stats & sales be tracked thru ccbill with an epoch billing page?
I wouldn't think so.... can somebody confirm if this possible or not? (i'll email ccbill ask them now actually)
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Ours is going to CCBill from here: Desirae promo
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Ours is going to CCBill from here: Desirae promo
Looks like the join page was changed back to ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/join.html

It was going to epoch earlier:

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i think you can alternate between epoch and ccbill with ccbill and all is still tracked.
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i think you can alternate between epoch and ccbill with ccbill and all is still tracked.
Thats the million dollar question
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Is tour5 an in-house tour?
My CCBill links were being sent to tour5 earlier, now going to tour4.
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I love her. She kicks ass and used to sell really well for me too .
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Does she still update?/ How does she look now days?/
she was smoking hot in a dirty milf kinda way
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Double checked this morning and even now still going to ccbill
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she was smoking hot in a dirty milf kinda way
I still would, probably.
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You can have ccbill and use epoch as your primary biller. It's part of their cascade system to work that way if you want.
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type in URL went to Epoch join page, then went to AmateurIndex and clicked their CCBILL affiliate link, also went to Epoch join page.

she *could* be using CCBILL's cascading billing feature - i will check.
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nope - she's not using CCBILL's cascading billing - CCBILL affiliate links are going to Epoch join pages, no way to credit affiliates.
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You can have ccbill and use epoch as your primary biller. It's part of their cascade system to work that way if you want.
she's not using it though.

if somebody's using CCBILL's cascading billing with Epoch or SegPay you would see this in the source code, this is from my own join page where i do use CCBILL's cascade feature

cascadeID is '5912' - Epoch first, CCBILL second
cascadeID is '5911' - CCBILL first, Epoch second

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<input type=hidden name=clientSubacc value='0002'>
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the epoch join does not use the ccbill cascade, there's a couple of ways of adding the cascade and neither are used. It's not uncommon though for site owners to want to test out epoch for a week and see the through put to test if its worth changing primary full time, maybe this is the case - but of course the cascade should be put in place first.
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I talked to her in email, she said it's fixed, and yesterday I click thru on my ccbill link codes and it did go to ccbill join page now. So I think it's all good now
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I talked to her in email, she said it's fixed, and yesterday I click thru on my ccbill link codes and it did go to ccbill join page now. So I think it's all good now
Good to know, but that was still a rather major fuck up.
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ya seems everything is back to normal.
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Affiliate Program

All affiliate links are routing through ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/home.html

I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com. It was actually a good thing because I am on a SUPER fast server now and my movies load quick as hell now. I wish I would've done it a long time ago!

Anyways, it is all good- my affiliate program is still running through ccbill.

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conversions for today

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I still convert like crazy, today I am off to a 1:65 conversion ratio!

I've been doing this since 2001 and still going strong!

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This isn't true. My affiliate program still and always has run through ccbill.

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Wow! Pretty cool she is still out there. I remember chatting with her in 2002. Sucks if this was on purpose.
Yes, I am still here...don't call it a come back, i've been here for years! lol

Seriously, I remember chatting with you about my program years ago, how are things going for you now?

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what links? Are you one of my affiliates? What is your url?

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what links? Are you one of my affiliates? What is your url?

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He isn't. It's just what people are saying around here instead of 'see sig' these days.
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Yes, I am still here...don't call it a come back, i've been here for years! lol

Seriously, I remember chatting with you about my program years ago, how are things going for you now?

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Just noticed Desirae only pays maximum of 6 rebills now.



Her terms CLEARLY state UNLIMITED rebills http://www.naughty4cash.com/terms.html

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I still convert like crazy, today I am off to a 1:65 conversion ratio!

I've been doing this since 2001 and still going strong!

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We would love to send you traffic from the Neighbors section of our member section if you are up for co-promoting back to Homegrown. I know you would do even better conversions than that with our members...

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All affiliate links are routing through ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/home.html

I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com. It was actually a good thing because I am on a SUPER fast server now and my movies load quick as hell now. I wish I would've done it a long time ago!

Anyways, it is all good- my affiliate program is still running through ccbill.

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Way to deflect, lol.
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Just noticed Desirae only pays maximum of 6 rebills now.



Her terms CLEARLY state UNLIMITED rebills http://www.naughty4cash.com/terms.html
Just checked mine, found the same same max 6 rebills. I don't tolerate getting dicked around. LINKS PULLED!
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Hmm.. "You will be paid 50/50 plus the life of the rebill for all memberships. "


"the life of the rebill".. What does it mean? Does it mean as long as the member stays a member? Does it mean however long the rebills are set to pay out elsewhere but undefined here? Is it subject to change? I'm genuinely unsure what that means.
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I also noticed when an affiliate link is used it goes to tour4 + ccbill join page
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...&PA=0101010101

but if a surfer comes back a day later using http://www.naughtyathome.com/ it goes to tour5 + epoch join page

does affiliate still get credit?
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Well fuck. 6 rebills. My affiliate link goes to her join page for CCBill and a little note below the sales button says "Credit Card Declined? Try this Option" which goes to Epoch link which is not in a cascade so no credit for me. Good way to fuck your affiliates. After all these years. Desirae, you should have put up a cascade link and notified your affiliates you were changing your terms. Goodbye. Links pulled.

I do not do business with any shits that try to fuck me out of a few bucks. Not because of the money, but because of the pettiness. Goddamn, that just pisses me the fuck off. Every where you turn somebody is out to fuck you for just pennies.
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Old 05-08-2012, 03:48 PM   #50
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Wow, now that is just fucked up really

Desirae how are you going to even begin to explain this one?
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