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SAC · 04-20-2012, 09:03 PM

Just noticed Naughty at Home switched billing from CCBILL to Epoch without notifying affiliates.

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour5/home.html

Harmon · 04-20-2012, 11:15 PM

Holy shit... bump for views

Roald · 04-20-2012, 11:26 PM

Our link still goes to CCbill

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...0000&PA=928578

Qbert · 04-21-2012, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Our link still goes to CCbill

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...0000&PA=928578

Roald, follow your link then go to the join page. The join page links sends you to an Epoch payment page.

jscott · 04-21-2012, 08:09 AM

Yessir I confirmed Roald, it does goes to the Epoch join page

slapass · 04-21-2012, 08:28 AM

Wow! Pretty cool she is still out there. I remember chatting with her in 2002. Sucks if this was on purpose.

SAC · 04-21-2012, 08:29 AM

Can stats & sales be tracked thru ccbill with an epoch billing page?

jscott · 04-21-2012, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

Can stats & sales be tracked thru ccbill with an epoch billing page?

I wouldn't think so.... can somebody confirm if this possible or not? (i'll email ccbill ask them now actually)

SGS · 04-21-2012, 09:55 AM

Ours is going to CCBill from here: Desirae promo

SAC · 04-21-2012, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGS

Ours is going to CCBill from here: Desirae promo

Looks like the join page was changed back to ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/join.html

It was going to epoch earlier:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour5/join.html

porno jew · 04-21-2012, 10:07 AM

i think you can alternate between epoch and ccbill with ccbill and all is still tracked.

SGS · 04-21-2012, 10:07 AM

Is tour5 an in-house tour?

SAC · 04-21-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew

i think you can alternate between epoch and ccbill with ccbill and all is still tracked.

Thats the million dollar question

Qbert · 04-21-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGS

Is tour5 an in-house tour?

My CCBill links were being sent to tour5 earlier, now going to tour4.

Harmon · 04-21-2012, 11:42 AM

Links pulled

datatank · 04-21-2012, 01:25 PM

I love her. She kicks ass and used to sell really well for me too .

datatank · 04-21-2012, 01:26 PM

Does she still update?/ How does she look now days?/
she was smoking hot in a dirty milf kinda way

Roald · 04-21-2012, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert

Roald, follow your link then go to the join page. The join page links sends you to an Epoch payment page.

Double checked this morning and even now still going to ccbill

redwhiteandblue · 04-21-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

Does she still update?/ How does she look now days?/
she was smoking hot in a dirty milf kinda way

I still would, probably.

Kman · 04-22-2012, 04:51 PM

Naughty at Business.

Now deleting numerous links from numerous sites and blogs now.

DWB · 04-22-2012, 05:06 PM

You can have ccbill and use epoch as your primary biller. It's part of their cascade system to work that way if you want.

Mutt · 04-22-2012, 05:06 PM

type in URL went to Epoch join page, then went to AmateurIndex and clicked their CCBILL affiliate link, also went to Epoch join page.

she *could* be using CCBILL's cascading billing feature - i will check.

Mutt · 04-22-2012, 05:11 PM

nope - she's not using CCBILL's cascading billing - CCBILL affiliate links are going to Epoch join pages, no way to credit affiliates.

Mutt · 04-22-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

You can have ccbill and use epoch as your primary biller. It's part of their cascade system to work that way if you want.

she's not using it though.

if somebody's using CCBILL's cascading billing with Epoch or SegPay you would see this in the source code, this is from my own join page where i do use CCBILL's cascade feature

cascadeID is '5912' - Epoch first, CCBILL second
cascadeID is '5911' - CCBILL first, Epoch second

<div id="ccbut" style="padding-left: 50px">
<form action='https://bill.ccbill.com/jpost/billingCascade.cgi' method=POST>
<input type=hidden name=clientAccnum value='931852'>
<input type=hidden name=clientSubacc value='0002'>
<input type=hidden name=cascadeId value='5912'>
<input type=submit name=submit value='Click Here To Join' style="color: #FF0000; font-size: 18px; font-weight: bold; width: 220px; height: 45px">
</form>

porno jew · 04-22-2012, 05:53 PM

shit just got real nigguh.

sojproductions · 04-23-2012, 02:19 AM

the epoch join does not use the ccbill cascade, there's a couple of ways of adding the cascade and neither are used. It's not uncommon though for site owners to want to test out epoch for a week and see the through put to test if its worth changing primary full time, maybe this is the case - but of course the cascade should be put in place first.

jscott · 04-23-2012, 03:10 AM

I talked to her in email, she said it's fixed, and yesterday I click thru on my ccbill link codes and it did go to ccbill join page now. So I think it's all good now

Qbert · 04-23-2012, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

I talked to her in email, she said it's fixed, and yesterday I click thru on my ccbill link codes and it did go to ccbill join page now. So I think it's all good now

Good to know, but that was still a rather major fuck up.

jscott · 04-23-2012, 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert

Good to know, but that was still a rather major fuck up.

True dat

Mutt · 04-23-2012, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

True dat

post your affiliate link please

SAC · 04-23-2012, 07:52 AM

ya seems everything is back to normal.

jscott · 04-23-2012, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

post your affiliate link please

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...0000&PA=658861

The Heron · 04-23-2012, 11:04 AM

good job jscott!

Desirae · 04-25-2012, 10:34 AM

All affiliate links are routing through ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/home.html

I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com. It was actually a good thing because I am on a SUPER fast server now and my movies load quick as hell now. I wish I would've done it a long time ago!

Anyways, it is all good- my affiliate program is still running through ccbill.

Desirae Spencer

Desirae · 04-25-2012, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by datatank

I love her. She kicks ass and used to sell really well for me too .

I still convert like crazy, today I am off to a 1:65 conversion ratio!

I've been doing this since 2001 and still going strong!

kisses Desirae

Desirae · 04-25-2012, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

Just noticed Naughty at Home switched billing from CCBILL to Epoch without notifying affiliates.

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour5/home.html

This isn't true. My affiliate program still and always has run through ccbill.

kisses
Desirae

Desirae · 04-25-2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

Wow! Pretty cool she is still out there. I remember chatting with her in 2002. Sucks if this was on purpose.

Yes, I am still here...don't call it a come back, i've been here for years! lol

Seriously, I remember chatting with you about my program years ago, how are things going for you now?

Desirae

Desirae · 04-25-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Links pulled

what links? Are you one of my affiliates? What is your url?

kisses Desirae

Quagmire · 04-25-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desirae

what links? Are you one of my affiliates? What is your url?

kisses Desirae

He isn't. It's just what people are saying around here instead of 'see sig' these days.

slapass · 04-26-2012, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desirae

Yes, I am still here...don't call it a come back, i've been here for years! lol

Seriously, I remember chatting with you about my program years ago, how are things going for you now?

Desirae

Good, I am glad it is still going strong for you guys. Shows what a solo site can be if the girl is totally involved and on top of it.

SAC · 05-08-2012, 09:18 AM

Just noticed Desirae only pays maximum of 6 rebills now.

Her terms CLEARLY state UNLIMITED rebills http://www.naughty4cash.com/terms.html

Quote:

I use CCbill for my revshare program. You will be paid 50/50 plus the life of the rebill for all memberships.

Far-L · 05-08-2012, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desirae

I still convert like crazy, today I am off to a 1:65 conversion ratio!

I've been doing this since 2001 and still going strong!

kisses Desirae

We would love to send you traffic from the Neighbors section of our member section if you are up for co-promoting back to Homegrown. I know you would do even better conversions than that with our members...

Hit up Dan at homegrownsupport d com if you are game. Check sig for our prog.

nudecanada · 05-08-2012, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desirae

All affiliate links are routing through ccbill:

http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/home.html

I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com. It was actually a good thing because I am on a SUPER fast server now and my movies load quick as hell now. I wish I would've done it a long time ago!

Anyways, it is all good- my affiliate program is still running through ccbill.

Desirae Spencer

Way to deflect, lol.

Qbert · 05-08-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

Just noticed Desirae only pays maximum of 6 rebills now.

Her terms CLEARLY state UNLIMITED rebills http://www.naughty4cash.com/terms.html

Just checked mine, found the same same max 6 rebills. I don't tolerate getting dicked around. LINKS PULLED!

SAC · 05-08-2012, 01:01 PM

i agree. another reason im slowly moving out of adult. seems everyones out to fuck affiliates

PR_Tom · 05-08-2012, 01:11 PM

Hmm.. "You will be paid 50/50 plus the life of the rebill for all memberships. "

"the life of the rebill".. What does it mean? Does it mean as long as the member stays a member? Does it mean however long the rebills are set to pay out elsewhere but undefined here? Is it subject to change? I'm genuinely unsure what that means.

PornoMonster · 05-08-2012, 01:40 PM

Never Mind!

SAC · 05-08-2012, 01:49 PM

I also noticed when an affiliate link is used it goes to tour4 + ccbill join page
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...&PA=0101010101

but if a surfer comes back a day later using http://www.naughtyathome.com/ it goes to tour5 + epoch join page

does affiliate still get credit?

ruff · 05-08-2012, 01:56 PM

Well fuck. 6 rebills. My affiliate link goes to her join page for CCBill and a little note below the sales button says "Credit Card Declined? Try this Option" which goes to Epoch link which is not in a cascade so no credit for me. Good way to fuck your affiliates. After all these years. Desirae, you should have put up a cascade link and notified your affiliates you were changing your terms. Goodbye. Links pulled.

I do not do business with any shits that try to fuck me out of a few bucks. Not because of the money, but because of the pettiness. Goddamn, that just pisses me the fuck off. Every where you turn somebody is out to fuck you for just pennies.

jscott · 05-08-2012, 03:48 PM

Wow, now that is just fucked up really

Desirae how are you going to even begin to explain this one?

04-20-2012, 09:03 PM	#1
SAC Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,171	Naughty at Home Desirae Spencer Just noticed Naughty at Home switched billing from CCBILL to Epoch without notifying affiliates. http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour5/home.html

04-20-2012, 11:26 PM	#3
Roald MissFreeOnes Oil Dude! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: FreeOnes Headquarters Posts: 2,604	Our link still goes to CCbill http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...0000&PA=928578 __________________ FreeOnes \| Model Stores \| Mobile \| Industry Thieves \| 15 Years of FreeOnes Managing Director FreeOnes \| roald [at] freeones [.] com \| icq:123891112 \| skype:roaldr Butt courtesy of www.inthecrack.com

04-21-2012, 08:09 AM	#5
jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Earth, land of the conniving humans Posts: 11,781	Yessir I confirmed Roald, it does goes to the Epoch join page __________________ Best sites to push are: Tsunami Cash: promote awesome not-saturated LEGAL japanese sites Wow Dollars: new program with great site from Dieselaction crew Ama Kings: GF program that actually pays

04-21-2012, 08:28 AM	#6
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04-21-2012, 09:55 AM	#9
SGS Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 4,915	Ours is going to CCBill from here: Desirae promo __________________ See sig...

04-20-2012, 11:15 PM	#2
Harmon So Fucking Bananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Davis Island, FL Posts: 14,130	Holy shit... bump for views

04-21-2012, 08:29 AM	#7
SAC Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,171	Can stats & sales be tracked thru ccbill with an epoch billing page?

04-21-2012, 10:07 AM	#11
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,323	i think you can alternate between epoch and ccbill with ccbill and all is still tracked.

04-21-2012, 10:07 AM	#12
SGS Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 4,915	Is tour5 an in-house tour? __________________ See sig...

04-21-2012, 11:42 AM	#15
Harmon So Fucking Bananas Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Davis Island, FL Posts: 14,130	Links pulled

04-21-2012, 01:25 PM	#16
datatank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,493	I love her. She kicks ass and used to sell really well for me too .

04-21-2012, 01:26 PM	#17
datatank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: My dog is blacker than Tupac Posts: 5,493	Does she still update?/ How does she look now days?/ she was smoking hot in a dirty milf kinda way

04-22-2012, 04:51 PM	#20
Kman Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 16	Naughty at Business. Now deleting numerous links from numerous sites and blogs now.

04-22-2012, 05:06 PM	#21
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04-22-2012, 05:06 PM	#22
Mutt Private School Jewel Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 31,936	type in URL went to Epoch join page, then went to AmateurIndex and clicked their CCBILL affiliate link, also went to Epoch join page. she could be using CCBILL's cascading billing feature - i will check. __________________ Counting Down Destiny @ http://www.bankofdestiny.com

04-22-2012, 05:11 PM	#23
Mutt Private School Jewel Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 31,936	nope - she's not using CCBILL's cascading billing - CCBILL affiliate links are going to Epoch join pages, no way to credit affiliates. __________________ Counting Down Destiny @ http://www.bankofdestiny.com

04-22-2012, 05:53 PM	#25
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04-23-2012, 02:19 AM	#26
sojproductions Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,850	the epoch join does not use the ccbill cascade, there's a couple of ways of adding the cascade and neither are used. It's not uncommon though for site owners to want to test out epoch for a week and see the through put to test if its worth changing primary full time, maybe this is the case - but of course the cascade should be put in place first. __________________ ICQ: 404-159-022 Blue Pixels Profits - Uk Solo Tranny sites & Crossdressing! Filthy Profits - Uk MILF Solo Sites

04-23-2012, 03:10 AM	#27
jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Earth, land of the conniving humans Posts: 11,781	I talked to her in email, she said it's fixed, and yesterday I click thru on my ccbill link codes and it did go to ccbill join page now. So I think it's all good now __________________ Best sites to push are: Tsunami Cash: promote awesome not-saturated LEGAL japanese sites Wow Dollars: new program with great site from Dieselaction crew Ama Kings: GF program that actually pays

04-23-2012, 07:52 AM	#31
SAC Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,171	ya seems everything is back to normal.

04-23-2012, 11:04 AM	#33
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04-25-2012, 10:34 AM	#34
Desirae Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 298	Affiliate Program All affiliate links are routing through ccbill: http://www.naughtyathome.com/tour4/home.html I switched servers because my old one crashed & had to reload everything on Naughtyathome.com. It was actually a good thing because I am on a SUPER fast server now and my movies load quick as hell now. I wish I would've done it a long time ago! Anyways, it is all good- my affiliate program is still running through ccbill. Desirae Spencer __________________ www.naughty4cash.com-Affiliate program for Desirae Spencer's Official Website: http://www.naughtyathome.com

05-08-2012, 01:01 PM	#45
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05-08-2012, 01:11 PM	#46
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05-08-2012, 01:49 PM	#48
SAC Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10,171	I also noticed when an affiliate link is used it goes to tour4 + ccbill join page http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...&PA=0101010101 but if a surfer comes back a day later using http://www.naughtyathome.com/ it goes to tour5 + epoch join page does affiliate still get credit? __________________ Promote the best converting glamcore and hd porn, BabesMoney.com

05-08-2012, 01:56 PM	#49
ruff Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami Beach, FL Posts: 1,706	Well fuck. 6 rebills. My affiliate link goes to her join page for CCBill and a little note below the sales button says "Credit Card Declined? Try this Option" which goes to Epoch link which is not in a cascade so no credit for me. Good way to fuck your affiliates. After all these years. Desirae, you should have put up a cascade link and notified your affiliates you were changing your terms. Goodbye. Links pulled. I do not do business with any shits that try to fuck me out of a few bucks. Not because of the money, but because of the pettiness. Goddamn, that just pisses me the fuck off. Every where you turn somebody is out to fuck you for just pennies. __________________ Aggressive Dollars Adult Centro Voyeur Monkey Last edited by ruff; 05-08-2012 at 01:59 PM..

05-08-2012, 03:48 PM	#50
jscott jscizzle Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Earth, land of the conniving humans Posts: 11,781	Wow, now that is just fucked up really Desirae how are you going to even begin to explain this one? __________________ Best sites to push are: Tsunami Cash: promote awesome not-saturated LEGAL japanese sites Wow Dollars: new program with great site from Dieselaction crew Ama Kings: GF program that actually pays

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