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[cardinalvices]

Are you tired of waiting for your designer? Are you interested in receiving effective design solutions in a timely matter? Would you like to finally start working on your business? Come to Cardinal Vices.

Cardinal Vices is a team that produces wide range of design services, flash, programming and illustration work. We deliver modern W3C compliant XHTML designs with table less CSS encoding. Our clients includes names like: Python/Dollar Machine, Nubiles.net, 12Clicks Cash, Tushy Cash and many more.



Why you should choose Cardinal Vices studio?
- We are on the market since the 2000
- We have competitive prices
- We offer services in webdesign/programming/illustration/flash
- We provide support to our work
- We offer professional copywriting services

Visit us on www.cardinalvices.com

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Cartoon drawings start from $199 and up.

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Check out our portfolio:
http://www.cardinalvices.com/portfolio.html

Beside paysite design we are also offering such popular services as: TGP and Tube site designs with table free CSS coding and much more. Our pricing structure is made so it can satisfy customer of any size, whanever its a beginner or an established company.

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[loreen]

We offer best designs on this forum!

You and the other 20 designers that say the same thing

Anyway, good luck!

[NaughtyRob]

Hit me up with a nice banner package deal.

[gimme-website]

You and the other 20 designers that say the same thing

Anyway, good luck!

Pff best on the forum, set your sights higher... We had the best in the WORLD here last week. Wonder where he went?

Good work + good luck

[machinegunkelly]

We had the best in the WORLD here last week. Wonder where he went?

I'm still here ;)

[loreen]

I'm still here ;)

He was talking about the other WORLD's BEST designer

[gimme-website]

My name is anna... that is a heavy clue as to my gender. :P
Id say machinegunkelly is the best in the entire solar system!

[loreen]

My name is anna...

Oh, hello Anna!

[gimme-website]

Oh, hello Anna!

Well heellllllo loreen..

[FreewayRick]

I have used their service, and it cost me about 2000 $ to get my website built (exact figure should be 1950$).

It was finished about a year ago.


Now, after about 200 videos, it was no longer possible to import videos.

I haven't used that function for about 3-4 months, so I just found out 10 days ago.



The video import function never worked properly, I was always under the impression that the programmers were really not able to program the tasks.


The whole importing function made a very sloppy impression.

There were always errors when trying to import videos. It was never error-free. Since the video import still seemed to function, I just accepted that.



I myself had to figure out that when importing flv-videos directly, instead of trying to convert them from the wmv-format, the video import seems to function again. Although it can hardly be called an import in this case, it's just a link!


As if it is my job to figure these things out!! Any halfway decent video script should be able to import even the most bizarre of video files. I have only used the very straightforward wmv-format, which should certainly not cause any crash in any video script.


Even after figuring this out, the member's area has the most basic problems, the movie length is not displayed correctly, every movie is being displayed as 34 minutes 28 seconds (which of course is wrong).



The voting function (it allows people to vote on videos) seems to be functioning, but only after cardinal vices fixed it.

And it certainly hasn't been used very heavily, I mean the most we've gotten are may be 2-3 votes per video (and it already broke down once).



I wouldn't even expect the programmers to "come back" and fix issues on the website, 1 year after it has been finished.


But why would you even accept this project, if clearly you are not able to program it?


There have been other issues, like e.g. the completion of the website was weeks behind the scheduled date, I have to figure out the bugs and test the video import function, instead of them.

I did receive a discount on the total price, because of the late completion.


In short, I have now spent 2000$ on my website, and now there are paying customers that have a member's area where the video length is not displayed correctly!

Even the cheapest of tube sites gets that right!



I never agreed to sponsor a project, where you guys experiment to try to program your own video script!!!

If you knew that you couldn't do it, may be you should have simply bought a functioning one?

I'm sure there are plenty available for the price of 2000$?


I'm sure you will agree that e.g. a script like mechbunny is a little bit better programmed than yours?



And besides the (bogus) video player / video importer, what exactly have you done?


I mean, the site will probably not win awards in terms of the design?

People can make up their own minds about that: www dot amazinghotmovies dot com

[gimme-website]

Ive had a good look around your site. Its shit.....

The design.. you don't have one.

Now concidering cardinal vices make the bold claim that they are the best designers on this forum... I think they have some explaining to do. WHy did you charge this man 2k for that crock OF SHIT????? Its better than zuzannas work but not by much....
HA.. yeah i said it! YUr shit girl.

Give the guy his money back. You Obv dont know what you are doing and using your client base as a "free education".

[v4 media]

http://www.amazinghotmovies.com/

If there was a lot, and I mean a lot of back end programing then maybe, but if that doesn't work then you were overcharged about $1,975.
That is a poor gallery design at best.

[gimme-website]

WHeres the truth freeway... I just spoke to them and hey claim they have fixed your problem. They claim you never paid for design and mearly a CMS....WHich they have now fixed for you.

I dont mind looking stupid and making enemies with my rivals.. BUt id like to be armed with the correct information.

[cardinalvices]

WHeres the truth freeway... I just spoke to them and hey claim they have fixed your problem. They claim you never paid for design and mearly a CMS....WHich they have now fixed for you.

I dont mind looking stupid and making enemies with my rivals.. BUt id like to be armed with the correct information.

This my friend is a complete and full bullshit. Because I didn't claim anything you mentioned above, and I have a proof of that. You are a liar.

[cardinalvices]

I feel obligated to reply to this statement, mainly from the unhappy customer, and not to the trolls that pose here as ultimate judges of design and peacekeeping.

Customer did indeed experience issues with his custom built backend script, but it was not due to the fact that there was something wrong with our software. Its just that every software needs to be updated from time to time to coop with changes in other segments. In this case third party software elements needed to be updated to the latest version to coop with codecs used in the source video files. I hope that FreewayRick would confirm that in the recent future.

[cardinalvices]

As for the design, the chose of design was made to make it work with the custom build backend. We wanted to concentrate attention on the movies, rather than fancy cookie cut graphics. Plus custom built backend that was managing video conversion to flash, sorting of the movies, displaying of the movies on the tour, and generating header graphics from the movie screenshots, plus a few more additinal minor features.

Because backend is dynamically changing content on the frontpage, there are certain limitations to its looks. Sorry trolls.

[gimme-website]

This my friend is a complete and full bullshit. Because I didn't claim anything you mentioned above, and I have a proof of that. You are a liar.

We aint friends. IM your rival/your competition. If you go bust.. i throw a party. That's how it is. And the only reason your replying to this thread.. is becuase i told you that you had trouble on the bourds.

Yes i think I did make an error reading your ICQ messages. The problem is caused by a third party plug-in... not your script.

SO yeah i appologize for that..

IM not gonna appologize for saying you aint as good as you claim.
You are NOT the best designers on this board. Your not even in the top 20.

IM darth vader in a mini skirt.... get used to it.

[VladS]

[...] IM [...] in a mini skirt.... [...]

Where's the pic, Anna? Proof or ban.

[gimme-website]

I rather think my ban is imminent... Ive turned into a bit of a monster recently.

[VladS]

C'mon, a sexy monsterina is perhaps what you're trying to say.

[FreewayRick]

WHeres the truth freeway... I just spoke to them and hey claim they have fixed your problem.

Sorry for the late response, I did have some things to do.


The problem was indeed fixed. I'm not sure if it was just the codec update, but the video importing worked fine.

However, I don't think it's something worth celebrating. It took about 14 days to get rid of this problem.

Who knows if it would've been fixed if it wasn't for the pressure I created, e.g. through this post.

Would a well-programmed CMS simply have collapsed because FFMPEG had not been updated?

I have no idea, I'm not an expert.

But it certainly seems like a question worth asking.


Up until the last video import there were constantly tons of error messages. They didn't have an effect on the functionality of the website. But it really didn't seem well-programmed. I worked with at least 10 different video importing systems. The one at amazinghotmovies.com certainly ranks as the worst.

I always had the impression the entire video importing function was on the brink of collapsing.



It does seem like a good thing that they would even help me out, more than 1 year after the site was completed. There never was an agreement that Cardinal Vices would take care of maintenance after the site is completed.

On the other hand, as others have agreed, the value of the design would be close to 0.

The CMS functioned for the vast majority of the time (despite a bad impression and constant error messages).

The website had a voting function, which allowed users to vote on every video.

It didn't work for some time, but was fixed.


In conclusion, I would say the CMS should have a value of 500$, considering the voting system etc. may be 1000$. Still seems like I paid way too much.

But I do not demand a refund.


It would have seemed like a much better option to go with a tube script like mechbunny. I would guess that such scripts are more reliable and better programmed.

However, I was completely unaware of this option at the point in time I decided to open amazinghotmovies.com

That's the end of the story...amazinghotmovies.com is now being closed, for reasons that have nothing to do with Cardinal Vices, or the programming of the website.

They claim you never paid for design and mearly a CMS....WHich they have now fixed for you.

I'm quite sure we agreed on a payment for the design, as well as "tour pages".

[bluevision]

Where are you located? (question for cardinalvices)