So is this proof that .xxx ICM and IFFOR have already violated their ICANN agreement?

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  • Bladewire
    StraightBro
    • Aug 2003
    • 56220

    #1

    So is this proof that .xxx ICM and IFFOR have already violated their ICANN agreement?

    You see on page 2 of the ICM/IFFOR contract submitted to ICANN for the approval of the .xxx TLD it states:

    "4. Respect ethical screens designed by IFFOR to ensure its independence from ICM and to
    protect it from inappropriate influence by ICM. "






    Also how can IFFOR.ORG not be inappropriately influenced by ICM when Stuart Lawley , Chairman and CEO of ICM registry, is listed as the registrant of the IFFOR.ORG domain name? Is this all proof that ICANN and GAC were misled my documents submitted to them for the approval of .xxx ? I'm not sure how to interpret this.

    Last edited by Bladewire; 04-20-2011, 12:47 PM.


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  • Bladewire
    StraightBro
    • Aug 2003
    • 56220

    #2
    And here's the historical whois for IFFOR.com



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    • Barefootsies
      Choice is an Illusion
      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #3
      The plot thickens...
      Should You Email Your Members?

      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

      Enough Said.

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      • Zyber
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 832

        #4
        Nice find.

        The smoking gun.

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        • woj
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          • Jul 2002
          • 47880

          #5
          interesting find, on an unrelated note, which tool is that top screenshot showing?
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          • GonZo
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2002
            • 3180

            #6
            Originally posted by woj
            interesting find, on an unrelated note, which tool is that top screenshot showing?
            Im guessing . . . they were being discrete.
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            • Bladewire
              StraightBro
              • Aug 2003
              • 56220

              #7
              Originally posted by woj
              interesting find, on an unrelated note, which tool is that top screenshot showing?
              Ah my bad I meant to link the image to the source. The tool is Robtex and the screencap was taken from this source


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              • JFK
                FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                • Jan 2002
                • 67369

                #8
                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                The plot thickens...
                indeed it does

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                • Rochard
                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 75733

                  #9
                  Basically IFFOR is just a way for them to give Joan and ASCAP and god only knows who else their kickbacks for their support.
                  Herschel Savage
                  Brooklyn, NY

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                  • BlackCrayon
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 19634

                    #10
                    Originally posted by xbiz
                    To recap, according to IFFOR's Bylaws:

                    Initially, IFFOR will have one Board member, ICM's Chairman and CEO, Stuart Lawley
                    The remaining Board members will be selected by the initial Board of Directors, Stuart Lawley
                    The ICM position on the board is the only position guaranteed on the board without term limits that cannot be removed under any circumstances by the Board.
                    IFFOR's Board Chair and ICM's Board Chair are one in the same, Stuart Lawley who will preside over all IFFOR Board meetings
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                    • Bladewire
                      StraightBro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 56220

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                      On the first page of their agreement with ICANN it specifically states on page one:

                      "(b) Statements made During Application Process. The factual statements
                      contained in Registry Operator?s application for the TLD, or made by Registry
                      Operator in negotiating this Agreement, were true and correct in all material
                      respects at the time the application was submitted to ICANN and are true and
                      correct in all material respects as of the date of this Agreement as set forth
                      above"

                      I don't think it was presented to ICANN that Mr. Lawley will have that kind of control over both "separate" entities

                      As a matter of fact on page 17 of this document he sent to the International Centre for Dispute Resolution he says:

                      "IFFOR was to be independent of ICM, and the two entities would share only one board member (myself, at least initially)."

                      He doesn't at all represent to them that:

                      "The ICM position on the board is the only position guaranteed on the board without term limits that cannot be removed under any circumstances by the Board. "

                      If that is true it would seem that his statement to the International Centre for Dispute Resolution in regards to his actual irrevocable limitless term role at IFFOR were incorrect.



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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #12
                        Damn. Nice find.

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                        • spazlabz
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 6548

                          #13
                          incredible find... will it make a difference?

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                          • DangerX !!!
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 886

                            #14

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                            • Barry-xlovecam
                              It's 42
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 18083

                              #15
                              Show us the records!


                              11:46 PM barry@mck-deathstar-7:~$ whois sex.xxx
                              No whois server is known for this kind of object.

                              ; <<>> DiG 9.7.0-P1 <<>> sex.xxx
                              ;; global options: +cmd
                              ;; Got answer:
                              ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 18311
                              ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

                              ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                              ;sex.xxx. IN A

                              ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                              sex.xxx. 1800 IN A 99.192.180.225

                              ;; Query time: 167 msec
                              ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
                              ;; WHEN: Thu Apr 21 00:43:14 2011
                              ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 41

                              12:46 AM barry@mck-deathstar-7:~$ whois 99.192.180.225
                              #
                              # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be:
                              # "n 99.192.180.225"
                              #
                              # Use "?" to get help.
                              #

                              #
                              # The following results may also be obtained via:
                              # http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=99...showARIN=false
                              #

                              Mojohost VL370 GREGD NET-99-192-180-192-26 (NET-99-192-180-192-1) 99.192.180.192 - 99.192.180.255
                              MOJOHOST EOS-17 (NET-99-192-128-0-1) 99.192.128.0 - 99.192.255.255

                              5.) SPONSORED TLD REGISTRY AGREEMENT, ARTICLE III COVENANTS, Section 3.1 says that;

                              "Section 3.1 Covenants of Registry Operator. Registry Operator covenants and agrees with ICANN as follows:"

                              (b) Consensus Policies, (iv) says that;

                              (B) Prohibitions on warehousing of or speculation in domain
                              names by registries or registrars;

                              (C) Reservation of registered names in the TLD that may not
                              be registered initially or that may not be renewed due to reasons
                              reasonably related to (i) avoidance of confusion among or
                              misleading of users, (ii) intellectual property, or (iii) the technical
                              management of the DNS or the Internet (e.g., establishment of
                              reservations of names from registration);

                              (D) Maintenance of and access to accurate and up-to-date
                              information concerning domain name registrations;

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                              • Black All Through
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 2078

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                The plot thickens...
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                                • u-Bob
                                  there's no $$$ in porn
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 33063

                                  #17
                                  fuck the icm and their crappy tld.

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                                  • DWB
                                    Registered User
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 31779

                                    #18
                                    Biggest scam the industry has ever seen.

                                    But it's too late now. It's a done deal.

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