Killing off File Lockers

[DWB]

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http://edoc.com
http://filedino.com
http://filereactor.com
http://files-king.com
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http://jbsharing.com
http://kickload.com
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http://sharebee.com
http://sharemediafiles.com
http://uploadboost.com
http://usstream.tv

<pirate>

Yea, well... not a single site has shut down due to any of this. You have had zero impact and no one cares. And why don't you go after tubes? They have more videos. I demand you tell me how you are getting your information.

</pirate>

[Nautilus]

Dear rights holders,

To quickly finish the currently ongoing Stopfilelockers campaign and to move on to mitigating other forms of the commercial piracy AK (Copycontrol) needs to be representative - please contribute to the war on piracy by applying as soon as possible. It will not take much of your time to sign the representation agreement and to send it back, but it will make a real difference and provide real help - some of the payment options can only be taken down by having enough representation agreements on file to impress various third parties that Copycontrol is dealing with such as VISA and Mastercard.

It doesn't matter if you're big or small, each representation agreement is counted. If you cannot afford standard representation fees AK is more than willing to negotiate them to the whatever amount is affordable to you. Please do not sit on the sidelines waiting for others to solve the piracy problem for you - stand up and help the fight.

Get represented!
http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

[MrDeiz]

back to business again

[Triple-A]

*bump* for the start of the week's piracy fun...

[vollenweider]

bump for seizing some domains!!

[RubyGoodnight]

Back to page one...

[notjoe]

Incorrect.
We need to be representative of rights holders to move forward with our efforts. I can understand how difficult it is for someone with your prejudiced reasoning to understand as much however this is where things stand.

Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

[vollenweider]

Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

Yes this part is the scary one, basically he wants to "catch" the snakes with other's hands? In any case, i won't sign anything since i am not sure about your methodologies. I just respect what you do and hope you reconsider your strategies.

[AdultKing]

Why? You've gotten this far without any rights holders signing any agreements with you.

There are various reasons, most of them legal. The reason we have gotten this far has to do with brand risk, now we need to exercise other factors to wipe out what's left of the file locker industry and then move on to other forms of piracy.

Yes this part is the scary one, basically he wants to "catch" the snakes with other's hands? In any case, i won't sign anything since i am not sure about your methodologies. I just respect what you do and hope you reconsider your strategies.

I think it's patently clear that you do not know what you are talking about. However, playing your game, what would you do to stop piracy ? We're always open to listening to novel new ideas.

[Mutt]

What's the story with uload.to? they are completely ignoring DMCA takedown notifications.

i see they are growing fast

[AdultKing]

What's the story with uload.to? they are completely ignoring DMCA takedown notifications.

i see they are growing fast

You're right, on our measurements they are only complying with 14% of takedown requests and those take too long.

Are we getting copies of those DMCA's you're sending ?

[Dirty F]

to wipe out what's left of the file locker industry

What you mean what's left?
99% is left.
The only thing you did was stop a few minor lockers nobody has heard of before.
The big ones do more traffic in a day than those small ones in a year.
Your work has had no impact whatsoever. There is not one less pirate. I doubt there's even one less locker as they just keep building them. Your lists of paypal removals from obscure lockers looks nice every time you post it but in reality nothing has changed. Absolutely nothing.
I'm not saying this to attack you or anything. Just wondering wth you are talking about when you say "what's left".
Everything is left. You removed maybe 1%. Actually i doubt it's that much.

[Dirty F]

But we all know you won't touch the big lockers. You know, the ones who actually have huge impact.

[Mutt]

You're right, on our measurements they are only complying with 14% of takedown requests and those take too long.

Are we getting copies of those DMCA's you're sending ?

what's the email address to cc: DMCA emails to?

[nikki99]

AK is my hero

[AdultKing]

what's the email address to cc: DMCA emails to?

[email protected]

[johnnyloadproductions]

But we all know you won't touch the big lockers. You know, the ones who actually have huge impact.

I find this statement ironic, considering that you were complaining about Javbucks not converting for you. All in time.
AK is rolling out a plan that will slowly takedown even the big boys.

[AlDeNiro]

You are still confusing the free porn argument with the piracy argument.

But you still confuse two different arguments. Yes tubes have lots of free porn, however how much of that is infringing ?

You are writing again and again "free porn", meaning it is not a piracy... so what is it? Be honest, tube sites is a problem too.

And you forgot about their monetization... All tube sites have premium areas with HD or some other extra features. They are using popular adult payment gateways btw.
So, it was a bad news you are working with them, thinking they are legal and will not fight against after file sharing sites.

Yawn, again you are one of these people who confused free porn with piracy. Your unsophisticated view of the problem is self apparent.

Don't protect thiefs. Free distribution doesn't mean "legal". Regarding dmca requests on google - they have another distribution model - no need to post links to video anywhere on the net, anyone can go on tube site and watch what he wants. That is why you can't find any link with your video with google or it's much harder. It's like YouTube, but with stolen content and without detection tools for copyright owners, of course md5 check is not working here, 'cause video can be converted from HD to lower quality with huge amount of settings.

[Dirty F]

I find this statement ironic, considering that you were complaining about Javbucks not converting for you. All in time.
AK is rolling out a plan that will slowly takedown even the big boys.

Point out the ironic part please.

[Mutt]

Point out the ironic part please.

Because 99% of JAV programs have no license or ownership of the thousands of DVDs in their paysites. Ask JAVBucks for any legal document they can provide to show they have legal rights to 5 random DVDs on their sites.

[Dirty F]

Because 99% of JAV programs have no license or ownership of the thousands of DVDs in their paysites. Ask JAVBucks for any legal document they can provide to show they have legal rights to 5 random DVDs on their sites.

I fail to see the connection to the post you quoted. And then ofcourse also the ironic part.

[BlackAndBlue]

Bumping for what AK is doing . . . also because reading this http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1090574 disturbed me.

I can't believe how many program owners are lining up to give someone they admittedly hardly know, member area access to "cut promo clips" for a new "tube site".

Does everyone really think it will only be five minute clips being cut for tube promotion of YOUR site, once you give someone full member access?

[DamianJ]

Point out the ironic part please.

I blame Alanis.

[AdultKing]

What you mean what's left?
99% is left. The only thing you did was stop a few minor lockers nobody has heard of before. The big ones do more traffic in a day than those small ones in a year.

Actually less than half is left. You obviously have no understanding of the file locker eco system. All these "minor" file lockers accounted for huge amounts of infringement, many were specialised in certain types of content and hit smaller niche rights holders very hard.

We have also seen, time and time again, unknown small file lockers become huge problems. It takes no more than a few months for a small file locker to become a massive problem.

Your work has had no impact whatsoever. There is not one less pirate. I doubt there's even one less locker as they just keep building them. Your lists of paypal removals from obscure lockers looks nice every time you post it but in reality nothing has changed. Absolutely nothing.

You can say this one thousand times, it does not make it true. We know for a fact that several large file lockers we have impacted are now failing.

Sites like Netload are scrambling trying to find new payment processing as we keep disrupting their monetization. If they cannot find a stable, reliable form of payment processing then eventually they will run out of cash and server bills will go unpaid.

Others have lost hosting and all of their files due to law enforcement raids and are now struggling to re-establish themselves.

We are also well advanced on other punitive measures to take out some of the larger players, we need to become more representative of rights holders to carry out those measures, which is why we are working to sign up rights holders.

I'm not saying this to attack you or anything. Just wondering wth you are talking about when you say "what's left". Everything is left. You removed maybe 1%. Actually i doubt it's that much.

Less than half is left, we have made it almost impossible for new file lockers to start up as we cull them right at the beginning when they are easy to kill off. As for the larger remaining players, read above, it takes time for cashed up sites to run out of money, but running out of money they are.

You are writing again and again "free porn", meaning it is not a piracy... so what is it? Be honest, tube sites is a problem too.

Tubes have lots of free porn, no doubt about it. Consumers wanting a quick fix can easily surf to a tube site and get satisfied with a wide selection of content. The question, however, is how much of that content is infringing ?

And you forgot about their monetization... All tube sites have premium areas with HD or some other extra features. They are using popular adult payment gateways btw.

Can you point to an example of a tube charging for access to pirated content ? If so forward the details to us.

So, it was a bad news you are working with them, thinking they are legal and will not fight against after file sharing sites.

We're not working with tubes, we're not working with any vested interests in content delivery other than copyright rights holders.

Don't protect thiefs. Free distribution doesn't mean "legal". Regarding dmca requests on google - they have another distribution model - no need to post links to video anywhere on the net, anyone can go on tube site and watch what he wants.

We don't protect thieves. The distrubution model has nothing to do with DMCA takedowns. All DMCA takedowns are accompanied by full URL's to identify infringing content.

That is why you can't find any link with your video with google or it's much harder. It's like YouTube, but with stolen content and without detection tools for copyright owners, of course md5 check is not working here, 'cause video can be converted from HD to lower quality with huge amount of settings.

You're demonstrating a complete misunderstanding of how DMCA works, all DMCA requests need to identify the infringing content, URL's to the content are the usual form of this.

Many large tubes use technologies like Vobile and other types of fingerprinting, recently Pink Visual offered to fingerprint content for rights holders for free, I believe the uptake of that offer was quite low.

We will get to the stage where we start taking tubes to task for any infringement on their services however we cannot get there until we have finished off the file lockers project and brought it to a stage where we can easily manage what is left.

Rights holders can help us speed up the process by coming on board, entering into a rights holder representation agreement with us, so we can work to enforce your copyright and bring copyright infringers to task.

[Barefootsies]

$6842.50 (53 contributors)

Ending December 5th

[Nautilus]

Dear rights holders,

All who applied during the last several days will get their agreements today. Please sign your agreement and send it back to Copycontrol. All who didn't apply please do that now and support the anti-piracy fight - as AK has said above we need to be more representative in order to kill the remaining payment options which file lockers who survived the storm so far are using now. Do not let them to rebuild, get represented and let AK to finish them off (using copies of your DMCAs and your representation agreements as a weapon).

Get represented!
http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

[bean-aid]

$6842.50 (53 contributors)

Ending December 5th

It's just a fundraiser script that needed an end date.



I think your post eluded to the end of the movement on December 5th and that is not true at all.

Chip in button on stopfilelockers.com home page.

That number can be a lot higher with some people chipping in.

[Tjeezers]

Let me give this a bump.

But a question in general, cause I like to know about the Tube sites, knowing a lot of people inc me find this a damaging concept killing of a lot of revenue masters.... When are those tube sites going to be regulated?

I ask this cause I think webcam revenue masters have known for a long time now they earnings of a tube is not for the paysites, but for the live cam sites they advertise on the side. Knowing AWE is kicking balls with their rankings thanks to tubes, and this has indirect hurt a lot of veteran revenue masters

[AdultKing]

Let me give this a bump.

But a question in general, cause I like to know about the Tube sites, knowing a lot of people inc me find this a damaging concept killing of a lot of revenue masters.... When are those tube sites going to be regulated?

There are two distinct issues with tubes and many people confuse the two issues, which is not helpful; these are free porn and piracy.

If tubes are legally publishing content that's either licensed, owned or freely given to tubes by programs wanting publicity then that's fine. Many of the larger tubes own or license a whole lot of content. Nothing we can do about that, they're not breaking any laws by publishing licensed content and making it available for free.

If tubes are pirating content then we are interested in that and would encourage rights holders to send us copies of all their DMCA notices to [email protected]

As of now, we receive very few infringement reports about tubes, most of the infringement reports we receive relate to file lockers, forums, torrents and other websites.

I ask this cause I think webcam revenue masters have known for a long time now they earnings of a tube is not for the paysites, but for the live cam sites they advertise on the side. Knowing AWE is kicking balls with their rankings thanks to tubes, and this has indirect hurt a lot of veteran revenue masters

If you have evidence of infringement by any site then let us know. Right now my main gripe with AWE is that they support piracy websites of all sorts, often forums and blogs. We intend to take them to task over this.

[JuicyBunny]

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[DWB]

up....up....

[Dirty F]

There are two distinct issues with tubes and many people confuse the two issues, which is not helpful; these are free porn and piracy.

If tubes are legally publishing content that's either licensed, owned or freely given to tubes by programs wanting publicity then that's fine. Many of the larger tubes own or license a whole lot of content. Nothing we can do about that, they're not breaking any laws by publishing licensed content and making it available for free.

If tubes are pirating content then we are interested in that and would encourage rights holders to send us copies of all their DMCA notices to [email protected]

As of now, we receive very few infringement reports about tubes, most of the infringement reports we receive relate to file lockers, forums, torrents and other websites.



If you have evidence of infringement by any site then let us know. Right now my main gripe with AWE is that they support piracy websites of all sorts, often forums and blogs. We intend to take them to task over this.

Amazing how you keep dodging these questions by coming up with shit like this. EVERYBODY and his dog knows that tons of HUGE tubes are FULL of stolen content. Everybody know this! There is one person on this board acting like he has no clue this is going on and that's you. I wonder why.

[Dirty F]

If you have evidence of infringement by any site then let us know..

This is hilarious!

And you still wonder why people think you have a hidden agenda??

I'm amazed how anybody can think you don't.

[Dirty F]

Something seriously stinks about this guy. He refuses to do something about the big filelockers. You know, the ones that have 1000 times more stolen content. And tubes are a minor issue according to him. You know, tubes that host insane amounts of stolen content and get more traffic than all the filelockers combined.

[vollenweider]

Something seriously stinks about this guy. He refuses to do something about the big filelockers. You know, the ones that have 1000 times more stolen content. And tubes are a minor issue according to him. You know, tubes that host insane amounts of stolen content and get more traffic than all the filelockers combined.

So what you are saying is AK is manwins bitch?
One question, anybody here remember the facts of filesonic and the big tubes, paysites?

[AdultKing]

Amazing how you keep dodging these questions by coming up with shit like this. EVERYBODY and his dog knows that tons of HUGE tubes are FULL of stolen content. Everybody know this! There is one person on this board acting like he has no clue this is going on and that's you. I wonder why.

I don't dispute there is stolen content on tubes, however it's not a problem of the scale of file lockers and torrents.

It's actually you who has his head in the sand, completely oblivious to the scale of the problem with file lockers and torrents and their respective eco-systems.

Something seriously stinks about this guy. He refuses to do something about the big filelockers. You know, the ones that have 1000 times more stolen content. And tubes are a minor issue according to him. You know, tubes that host insane amounts of stolen content and get more traffic than all the filelockers combined.

Please show me a tube with hundreds of site rips of entire sites.

The fact is that tubes do not account for the majority of stolen content, they don't even come in 2nd or 3rd place for infringements, in fact they represent about 5% of the infringements we receive copies of notices for.

Add to that the fact that file lockers have a very low compliance rate for takedown notices and most tubes have a very high compliance rate.

Unlike you I am not going to make up wildly exaggerated statistics to further my arguments. You claim they have 1000 times more stolen content than file lockers which is simply untrue, file lockers account for the majority of infringement followed closely by torrents.

So what you are saying is AK is manwins bitch?
One question, anybody here remember the facts of filesonic and the big tubes, paysites?

It's clear you don't support what we are doing, you have made it abudantly clear in the eight posts you have made on GFY. In fact you joined this forum for the sole intention of bagging our work.

[bean-aid]

Something seriously stinks about this guy. He refuses to do something about the big filelockers. You know, the ones that have 1000 times more stolen content. And tubes are a minor issue according to him. You know, tubes that host insane amounts of stolen content and get more traffic than all the filelockers combined.

Which ones again?

What's your deal? You do realize we are almost in 2013 now right?

I know you remember 2008, 2009... *days of ripping content and making tubes*

Things kinda have changed now... companies have been buying programs for 2 cents on the dollar... lol... and no longer are pirates or stealing.

But do not forget that stealing evolves... and this thread... and what AK is doing... is shutting the traps of filelocker theft. If you don't know... you can pay $9.95 for most filelockers that mean a shit and download 1000's of programs content. I don't mean 1000 downloads, I mean 1000 programs content. 100,000's of totally pirated content for 9.95 per month.

So please Frank, shut your trap. It is no longer 2008.

[epitome]

Bumping for what AK is doing . . . also because reading this http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1090574 disturbed me.

I can't believe how many program owners are lining up to give someone they admittedly hardly know, member area access to "cut promo clips" for a new "tube site".

Does everyone really think it will only be five minute clips being cut for tube promotion of YOUR site, once you give someone full member access?

And what is stopping them from just buying that access and doing the same thing? If they are cutting promo clips then they are an affiliate and will lose their account the second they get caught doing what they say they won't.

That's why you employ companies like Porn Guardian to protect you content. You can avoid giving out a single pass and still have rampant piracy.

Why throw away all those potential sales when someone may he doing something shady when any paid member can be doing the same thing?

You have to see the big picture or you will always be a small timer.

[epitome]

Something seriously stinks about this guy. He refuses to do something about the big filelockers. You know, the ones that have 1000 times more stolen content. And tubes are a minor issue according to him. You know, tubes that host insane amounts of stolen content and get more traffic than all the filelockers combined.

Where do you get these facts from?

I just glanced at our Porn Guardian stats and file lockers are a much larger problem and we may have a 40% take down rate with a locker while it is 90-95% for tubes except for one particular one that has already been sued many times.

[DWB]

Where do you get these facts from?

I just glanced at our Porn Guardian stats and file lockers are a much larger problem and we may have a 40% take down rate with a locker while it is 90-95% for tubes except for one particular one that has already been sued many times.

Like most others complaining, he doesn't have any.

[vollenweider]

It's clear you don't support what we are doing, you have made it abudantly clear in the eight posts you have made on GFY. In fact you joined this forum for the sole intention of bagging our work.

Ok so you want me to sign an agreement with you so you go after torrent sites, right?
One question, when you started to go after the shit lockers did you ask anyone to sign any agreement? why do you even need my agreement when there are thousands of TB of pirated adult and non-adult material on those torrent sites?

You know that i don't support your methodologies, and you are still using the excuse of representation as your weapon to ignore the torrents because you know that sites like rarbg.com do not have any source of income like paypal and shits!! got where i want to conclude? I am not saying that you should stop going after file shiters, but at the same time work against torrents and other forms of piracy since you have established good relations with manwin and they are supporting what you are doing!

[DWB]

Ok so you want me to sign an agreement with you so you go after torrent sites, right?
One question, when you started to go after the shit lockers did you ask anyone to sign any agreement? why do you even need my agreement when there are thousands of TB of pirated adult and non-adult material on those torrent sites?

You know that i don't support your methodologies, and you are still using the excuse of representation as your weapon to ignore the torrents because you know that sites like rarbg.com do not have any source of income like paypal and shits!! got where i want to conclude? I am not saying that you should stop going after file shiters, but at the same time work against torrents and other forms of piracy since you have established good relations with manwin and they are supporting what you are doing!

Wu Xing...

[AdultKing]

Ok so you want me to sign an agreement with you so you go after torrent sites, right?

If you're a content owner then fill out this form

http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

and we'll execute an agreement with you.

If you're not a content rights holder then get out of this thread, it doesn't concern you (unless you're actually a pirate).

[Nautilus]

This week's terminations log:

Boltsharing.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Zuzufile.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Filetug.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Boomupload.net (filehost) terminated by Paypal
Share76.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal
4up.me (filehost) terminated by OKPay
4up.im (filehost) terminated by OKPay
1-upload.com (filehost) terminated by Payza
4fastfile.com (filehost) terminated by Payza
Cramit.in (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Filerose.com (filehost) terminated by Onepay.vn
Hellupload.com (filehost) terminated by Payu.pl
Extmatrix.com (filehost) terminated by Avangate
Letitbit.net (filehost) terminated by Onlinedengi.ru
Glumbouploads.com (filehost) terminated by Onlinedengi.ru
File4safe.com (filehost) terminated by 2Checkout
Cosmobox.org (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Cosmobox.org (filehost) terminated by Esselerate
Filerose.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal (again)
Uploadblast.com (filehost) terminated by Paypal

[Nautilus]

More dead hosts:

http://filevelocity.com
http://glumbouploads.com
http://clouds.to
http://filegig.com
http://migaload.com
http://nzbload.com
http://filerobo.com
http://azushare.net

[nikki99]

More dead hosts:

http://filevelocity.com
http://glumbouploads.com
http://clouds.to
http://filegig.com
http://migaload.com
http://nzbload.com
http://filerobo.com
http://azushare.net

[Nautilus]

Dear rights holders,

Please apply for representation agreement with Copycontrol and support the anti-piracy fight - we're still not representative enough to take down some of the most resilient payment options which file lockers started to use recently. We will not be able to accomplish this mission of killing off file lockers without more agreements and wider support from rights holders. Do not count on the other guy to do that - apply now and get represented!

http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

[MrDeiz]

was going thru http://adult4dl.com/
http://ryushare.com/ are using onepay.vn
http://uploaded.net/register? has got some billing
https://rapidgator.net/article/premium also offers visa payment
http://lumfile.com/premium.html

[BlackAndBlue]

Bumping for the cause. Each locker that is closed is good news.

[adultmobile]

A file hoster sent me mail how to pay: put cash in a letter and send with fedex.