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  • johnnyloadproductions
    Account Shutdown
    • Oct 2008
    • 3611

    #6251
    Originally posted by DamianJ
    He's really making an impact. You can tell from the white papers he is publishing proving the uplift in sales picking off this low hanging fruit.

    ...Oh wait...
    Funny, your cynical opinion... and how you indirectly defend "queen toots" in threads revolving around hosting for IP thieves.

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    • freakfiles
      Registered User
      • Nov 2012
      • 69

      #6252
      Originally posted by donb
      Multiple posts by freakfiles in this thread are good reason to believe that AK actually is making a difference.
      He is making a difference all right, but what exactly and for whom still remains a mystery.

      Don't be put off my nick however, I chose it for contrast. Instead, how about noticing that AK was posting like crazy just a page or two ago, replying to my posts within practically minutes and now last two are left totally ignored. Why?

      I think that he simply has nothing to say about the fact that major hosts are working as they used to and may be even better than before, other than admit that he had done absolutely nothing on a global scale of things, which he'd never do.

      Regarding Payza, AK most likely is trying to take credit for something he has nothing to do with just to make you guys be all like "WOW" and send him more money.

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      • AdultKing
        Raise Your Weapon
        • Jun 2003
        • 15601

        #6253
        For those who were wondering, however this has been said many times before, the reason we cut small sites off at the knees is because if we don't cut them down they become big sites.

        Oron, FileFactory, BitShare, ExtaBit, UltraMegaBit, Rapidgator etc were all once small sites. The trouble is nobody was around killing file lockers off when they started, so they became big and are now problems that we are doing our best to clean up.

        We kill little sites because that stops them becoming bigger, it's that simple.

        As for our regular anti contributors to this thread. We've all been very busy lately, so replying to the continual trash spouted by pirates and their sympathizers has been a low priority, in fact we're just not going to engage in it any longer.

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        • DamianJ
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2006
          • 15808

          #6254
          Originally posted by johnnyloadproductions
          Funny, your cynical opinion... and how you indirectly defend "queen toots" in threads revolving around hosting for IP thieves.
          Where have I ever done that?

          There's of loads of things I do that you could criticise me for, so no need to just make shit up because you can't proffer a counterpoint to my post.

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          • donnyt81
            Registered User
            • Jul 2012
            • 58

            #6255
            Good work - at least one of the big ones gone
            hotfile.com/i/sd.jpg

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            • 8pt-buck
              So Fucking Banned
              • Aug 2013
              • 4011

              #6256
              Originally posted by AdultKing
              We kill little sites because that stops them becoming bigger, it's that simple..
              Unless I was misinformed, Paypal's management ceased payment services to all file hosting companies last month (November). I've heard Payza, Moneybookers, CCBill, and Paxum will or have cloned paypal's anti file hosting policy.
              If this information is correct, what exactly is it you are doing?

              You've never responded to a question I inquired some time ago. Are donations to the Stop File Lockers fund tax deductible? Be mindful of my knowledge of 2013 Australian tax law and tax evasion.

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              • ShackledMaidens
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2009
                • 102

                #6257
                Originally posted by donnyt81
                Good work - at least one of the big ones gone
                hotfile.com/i/sd.jpg

                ahahahahahahahahaha

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                • AdultKing
                  Raise Your Weapon
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 15601

                  #6258
                  HotFile.com has shut down.

                  Some of you may remember that we had Hotfile terminated by Paypal (something the MPAA couldn't achieve), which put a significant dent in their profitability. That combined with the MPAA case and further pressure on their credit card processing ability meant that they just could not keep operating.

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                  • johnnyloadproductions
                    Account Shutdown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3611

                    #6259
                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                    HotFile.com has shut down.

                    Some of you may remember that we had Hotfile terminated by Paypal (something the MPAA couldn't achieve), which put a significant dent in their profitability. That combined with the MPAA case and further pressure on their credit card processing ability meant that they just could not keep operating.
                    Exactly my thoughts, good job!

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                    • Creatine
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 1060

                      #6260
                      Originally posted by AdultKing
                      HotFile.com has shut down.

                      Some of you may remember that we had Hotfile terminated by Paypal (something the MPAA couldn't achieve), which put a significant dent in their profitability. That combined with the MPAA case and further pressure on their credit card processing ability meant that they just could not keep operating.
                      What exactly did you do there? Hotfile shutting down was not your doing as far as I know, it was MPAA.

                      http://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-shut...ith-it-131204/

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                      • AdultKing
                        Raise Your Weapon
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 15601

                        #6261
                        Originally posted by Creatine
                        What exactly did you do there? Hotfile shutting down was not your doing as far as I know, it was MPAA.

                        http://torrentfreak.com/hotfile-shut...ith-it-131204/
                        If you read back through this thread, you will know that we took Paypal away from Hotfile.

                        This put a massive dent in their profitability. It was the beginning of the end.

                        The combination of the MPAA case and the loss of revenue sources caused their demise.

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                        • AdultKing
                          Raise Your Weapon
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 15601

                          #6262
                          This was the beginning of the end of Hotfile.

                          Originally posted by AdultKing
                          Today we achieved what hollywood, the MPAA, the RIAA and every other anti piracy organisation in the world couldn't.

                          Hotfile no longer has Paypal.



                          Read about our findings on Hotfile here:

                          http://stopfilelockers.com/hotfile-t...ted-by-paypal/

                          Many of our critics questioned why we weren't doing anything about Hotfile. The fact is we were always looking at Hotfile, however as has been the case with all of our targets, we do not divulge details of operational matters.

                          We are looking at many many sites, as our resources are limited we shift our priorities and try to keep a manageable workload.

                          Losing Paypal is a gigantic blow to any site. It is by far the most widely accepted and trusted payment system on the net other than credit cards. The reason why Kim Dotcom chose Paypal for Mega resellers was because of it's widespread acceptance.

                          There will be more terminations, more pressure placed on pirates and our aim is to ensure that commercial piracy has no economic safe haven.

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                          • Creatine
                            Confirmed User
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 1060

                            #6263
                            Ahh ok got it. Sorry about that, I don't follow every page of this thread. Thats really cool, hopefully this scares off people from creating more file lockers.

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                            • 8pt-buck
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 4011

                              #6264
                              Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                              You've never responded to a question I inquired some time ago. Are donations to the Stop File Lockers fund tax deductible? Be mindful of my knowledge of 2013 Australian tax law and tax evasion.
                              Thanks for responding to my inquiry Mr. King.

                              Having clients content pirated too, a hearty tax deductible $350 reoccurring monthly paypal donation to your cause would have been beneficial. It's apparent your narcissistic personality disorder surfaces when reading statements from potential contributors that question your business motives, especially tax inquiries.

                              I am not one to dance around the Mulberry bush Mr. King. I find it highly suspicious accepting donations without transparent documented receipts of where and how those monies are being implemented.

                              You've left me no alternative but to become a dick and contact the Australian Taxation office for verification or your tax legitimacy. I will conduct a followup phone call to the taxation office in two weeks.

                              https://olt.ato.gov.au/terc/default....15122020051803
                              Last edited by 8pt-buck; 12-04-2013, 09:27 AM.

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                              • AdultKing
                                Raise Your Weapon
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 15601

                                #6265
                                Contributions to the project are not tax deductible in Australia as we are not a charity.

                                Fees paid for representation however are business expenses and as such are tax deductible. Those with representation agreements in place would already be aware of this.

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                                • spiederman
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2012
                                  • 1216

                                  #6266
                                  Originally posted by 8pt-buck
                                  Thanks for responding to my inquiry Mr. King.

                                  Having clients content pirated too, a hearty tax deductible $350 reoccurring monthly paypal donation to your cause would have been beneficial. It's apparent your narcissistic personality disorder surfaces when reading statements from potential contributors that question your business motives, especially tax inquiries.

                                  I am not one to dance around the Mulberry bush Mr. King. I find it highly suspicious accepting donations without transparent documented receipts of where and how those monies are being implemented.

                                  You've left me no alternative but to become a dick and contact the Australian Taxation office for verification or your tax legitimacy. I will conduct a followup phone call to the taxation office in two weeks.

                                  https://olt.ato.gov.au/terc/default....15122020051803

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                                  • Due
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 3620

                                    #6267
                                    Originally posted by AdultKing
                                    If you read back through this thread, you will know that we took Paypal away from Hotfile.

                                    This put a massive dent in their profitability. It was the beginning of the end.

                                    The combination of the MPAA case and the loss of revenue sources caused their demise.
                                    Sorry are you saying that if they had PayPal as a payment option they would have been able to pay the $80 million settlement and continue its ooperation
                                    I buy plugs
                                    Skype: Due_Global
                                    /Due

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                                    • adultmobile
                                      No, I am not banned
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 5345

                                      #6268
                                      Originally posted by spiederman

                                      TubeCamGirl.com

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                                      • DamianJ
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jul 2006
                                        • 15808

                                        #6269
                                        Originally posted by AdultKing
                                        HotFile.com has shut down.

                                        Some of you may remember that we had Hotfile terminated by Paypal (something the MPAA couldn't achieve), which put a significant dent in their profitability. That combined with the MPAA case and further pressure on their credit card processing ability meant that they just could not keep operating.
                                        Odd the MPAA aren't thanking you for the immense help you made in their case.

                                        Unless, of course, they got them shut down and didn't view the removal of paypal as in the least bit significant in their case?

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                                        • AdultKing
                                          Raise Your Weapon
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 15601

                                          #6270
                                          Rapidgator

                                          As many of you know, Rapidgator is a recurring problem to rights holders and to those of you who protect them, send DCMA's etc.

                                          Rapidgator are one of the worst sites when it comes to the re-appearance of previously removed files. We need to chop them off at the knees, but ??.

                                          We now need your help

                                          We would appreciate it if you could send copies of your Rapidgator DMCA notices to [email protected]

                                          This is very important. If you send a DMCA to Rapidgator then please cc it to us at the email address provided above.

                                          The more evidence we collect the better, however please do not send copies of DMCA's that provide links to other hosts.

                                          But I already send my DMCA's to Copy Control, why another address ?

                                          Many of you send copies of DMCA notices to [email protected] and we would like you to keep doing that. However for the purposes of this phase of evidence collection we need a dedicated mailbox for only receiving Rapidgator DMCA's

                                          Questions ?

                                          If you have questions please contact us https://copycontrol.org/contact-us/

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                                          • donnyt81
                                            Registered User
                                            • Jul 2012
                                            • 58

                                            #6271
                                            What about the Filefactory case? Didn't you want to send you also all Filefactory DMCA notices to a separate email address? I can remember that you posted similar things about Filefactory about 2 months ago... Now I can't see any impact in their business. In fact, they expanded it and launched a public file search and usenet access for dumb users who were not able to find files there.

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                                            • MaDalton
                                              I am Amazing Content!
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 39861

                                              #6272
                                              i know somewhere in this thread they were already mentioned but i just came across keep2share.cc through kitty-kats - and they seem to have billing in place

                                              english company: http://k2share.cc/page/imprint.html

                                              with affiliate program: http://k2share.cc/site/affiliate.html
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                                              • AdultKing
                                                Raise Your Weapon
                                                • Jun 2003
                                                • 15601

                                                #6273
                                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                i know somewhere in this thread they were already mentioned but i just came across keep2share.cc through kitty-kats - and they seem to have billing in place

                                                english company: http://k2share.cc/page/imprint.html

                                                with affiliate program: http://k2share.cc/site/affiliate.html
                                                Thanks. We already have k2s on our radar.

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                                                • MaDalton
                                                  I am Amazing Content!
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 39861

                                                  #6274
                                                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                  Thanks. We already have k2s on our radar.
                                                  great!

                                                  just sent a couple of links with my stuff to xtakedowns
                                                  AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003
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                                                  • ShackledMaidens
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2009
                                                    • 102

                                                    #6275
                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                    i know somewhere in this thread they were already mentioned but i just came across keep2share.cc through kitty-kats - and they seem to have billing in place

                                                    english company: http://k2share.cc/page/imprint.html

                                                    with affiliate program: http://k2share.cc/site/affiliate.html
                                                    That's interesting, they have the same postal address as dizzcloud / extabit

                                                    http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/cropton-invest

                                                    84 PARK ROAD
                                                    ROSYTH
                                                    FIFE
                                                    SCOTLAND
                                                    KY11 2JL
                                                    Last edited by ShackledMaidens; 12-06-2013, 04:18 AM.

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                                                    • WDF
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jan 2013
                                                      • 2248

                                                      #6276
                                                      Originally posted by ShackledMaidens
                                                      That's interesting, they have the same postal address as dizzcloud / extabit

                                                      http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/cropton-invest

                                                      84 PARK ROAD
                                                      ROSYTH
                                                      FIFE
                                                      SCOTLAND
                                                      KY11 2JL

                                                      http://www.companieslist.co.uk/SL014...ing-company-lp
                                                      Please HELP

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                                                      • MrDeiz
                                                        • May 2008
                                                        • 9802

                                                        #6277
                                                        bump for more news from AK
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                                                        • WDF
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2013
                                                          • 2248

                                                          #6278
                                                          I enjoy posting links relating to this thread. Anyone interested that has issues with Certain Parties from the US state of Ohio may want to read this 1.

                                                          http://www.ohiolegalservices.org/pub...g/qandact_view

                                                          It seems Ohio has a fairly liberal anti-stalking/menacing law!

                                                          Ohio Legal Services also has a keen interest in those committing these types of acts online, interstate, and internationally that have previous convictions of any type.
                                                          Please HELP

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                                                          • AdultKing
                                                            Raise Your Weapon
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 15601

                                                            #6279
                                                            OTEUpload.com will be gone by the end of the year.

                                                            They now have no payment processing and are deleting files as the number of servers they can support decreases. There are also other financial issues in play regarding this site.

                                                            Affiliates / Uploaders have been promised payment at the end of the year, however on our analysis this is a "milk it for all it's worth then close down" tactic.


                                                            In the next few days we'll be working on their web hosting arrangements.

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                                                            • FCopy
                                                              Registered User
                                                              • May 2013
                                                              • 12

                                                              #6280
                                                              Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                              OTEUpload.com will be gone by the end of the year.
                                                              Some big thiefs moved "ther" files to vozupload.com from OTE.

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                                                              • DamianJ
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jul 2006
                                                                • 15808

                                                                #6281
                                                                Originally posted by FCopy
                                                                Some big thiefs moved "ther" files to vozupload.com from OTE.
                                                                You're not suggesting this is just a massive game of whack-a-mole are you?

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                                                                • AdultKing
                                                                  Raise Your Weapon
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 15601

                                                                  #6282
                                                                  Another small startup file locker, salefiles.com, has now lost several payment methods.

                                                                  We'll keep hitting these new file lockers while they're small before they can do any real damage.

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                                                                  • WDF
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jan 2013
                                                                    • 2248

                                                                    #6283
                                                                    A bump for Robert and something for everyone to have a laugh over.

                                                                    https://twitter.com/harjanpi/status/410229447019610112
                                                                    Please HELP

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                                                                    • JOKER
                                                                      Facit Omnia Voluntas
                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                      • 2105

                                                                      #6284
                                                                      Originally posted by WDF
                                                                      A bump for Robert and something for everyone to have a laugh over.

                                                                      https://twitter.com/harjanpi/status/410229447019610112
                                                                      Sorry, that page doesn?t exist!



                                                                      What was it?
                                                                      Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
                                                                      Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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                                                                      • WDF
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jan 2013
                                                                        • 2248

                                                                        #6285
                                                                        Yes it was removed, but it was archived just for that reason.

                                                                        There is a screen shot of it here:

                                                                        www.nukepiracy.com/?attachment_id=88

                                                                        and here:

                                                                        http://antipiracyforums.com/threads/...r-changes.246/

                                                                        or you can just look at it.



                                                                        We also know who commissioned and at least partially paid for the Private Investigator in Melbourne.
                                                                        Please HELP

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                                                                        • spiederman
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2012
                                                                          • 1216

                                                                          #6286
                                                                          bump for AK

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                                                                          • siteripme
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Apr 2013
                                                                            • 8

                                                                            #6287
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                                                                            lol if you register via wj affiliate link to keep2share, you will see this,

                                                                            they are obviously motivating uploaders to upload porn and posts on big porn forums

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                                                                            Last edited by siteripme; 12-13-2013, 01:22 PM.

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                                                                            • zishy
                                                                              Registered User
                                                                              • Jan 2013
                                                                              • 61

                                                                              #6288
                                                                              sorry to be lazy and not want to read this novel of a thread, but how do i support the cause and help keep2share to be taken down?
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                                                                              • AdultKing
                                                                                Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                • 15601

                                                                                #6289
                                                                                Originally posted by siteripme
                                                                                lol if you register via wj affiliate link to keep2share, you will see this,

                                                                                they are obviously motivating uploaders to upload porn and posts on big porn forums

                                                                                and I see that they are becoming number 1 on porn forums and porn blogs too, please look in to it, AK.
                                                                                Keep2Share.cc are well and truly on our radar as are the forums mentioned above.

                                                                                Originally posted by zishy
                                                                                sorry to be lazy and not want to read this novel of a thread, but how do i support the cause and help keep2share to be taken down?
                                                                                Please visit https://copycontrol.org/contribute
                                                                                Last edited by AdultKing; 12-13-2013, 06:45 PM. Reason: Spelling

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                                                                                • bean-aid
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Jun 2011
                                                                                  • 16493

                                                                                  #6290
                                                                                  Originally posted by AdultKing
                                                                                  Top of da mornin'

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                                                                                  • Fat Panda
                                                                                    Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                                                    • 13296

                                                                                    #6291
                                                                                    its time to go fucking nuclear on hosts, adult ad networks, file hosts, etc that willfully conspire with tube sites to monetize illegal content.

                                                                                    rise up and take these motherfuckers down!

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                                                                                    • MrDeiz
                                                                                      • May 2008
                                                                                      • 9802

                                                                                      #6292
                                                                                      bump for some great news from AK
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                                                                                      • AdultKing
                                                                                        Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                                        • 15601

                                                                                        #6293
                                                                                        I would like to remind content owners, site owners and producers to keep sending copies of all of your DMCA notices to [email protected]

                                                                                        If you are having particular problems with a site you can escalate these to [email protected]

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                                                                                        • Lichen
                                                                                          Tube Master
                                                                                          • May 2004
                                                                                          • 1640

                                                                                          #6294
                                                                                          Can you start the same operation towards tubes? The literally destroyed the business.

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                                                                                          • donnyt81
                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                            • Jul 2012
                                                                                            • 58

                                                                                            #6295
                                                                                            Originally posted by Lichen
                                                                                            Can you start the same operation towards tubes? The literally destroyed the business.
                                                                                            Since he's running own tubes, it would mean shooting in his own knees

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                                                                                            • rogueteens
                                                                                              So fucking bland
                                                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                                                              • 8005

                                                                                              #6296
                                                                                              does anyone have a list of the filelockers that say they pay for views/downloads?
                                                                                              I have a forum and I'd like to add them to my url blacklist.

                                                                                              cheers
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                                                                                              • AdultKing
                                                                                                Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 15601

                                                                                                #6297
                                                                                                Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                                                                does anyone have a list of the filelockers that say they pay for views/downloads?
                                                                                                I have a forum and I'd like to add them to my url blacklist.

                                                                                                cheers
                                                                                                Here's a simple solution for you.

                                                                                                Don't allow links to any file locker. It doesn't matter if it's pay per view , pay per download or not. It's more than likely that if people on your forum are sharing content then they are not sharing content that they have a license to distribute.

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                                                                                                • Lichen
                                                                                                  Tube Master
                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                  • 1640

                                                                                                  #6298
                                                                                                  Originally posted by donnyt81
                                                                                                  Since he's running own tubes, it would mean shooting in his own knees
                                                                                                  which tubes are his?

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                                                                                                  • AdultKing
                                                                                                    Raise Your Weapon
                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 15601

                                                                                                    #6299
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lichen
                                                                                                    which tubes are his?
                                                                                                    None are.

                                                                                                    The last of my LEGAL, affiliate content only, tubes closed down a while ago.

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                                                                                                    • donnyt81
                                                                                                      Registered User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2012
                                                                                                      • 58

                                                                                                      #6300
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lichen
                                                                                                      which tubes are his?
                                                                                                      Just some unsuccessful ones, so he decided to change into the IP protection business (oh sorry, charity ), after he got some experience with DMCA and failed with own sites
                                                                                                      But it seems, that he turned them already offline after it went into public:
                                                                                                      Originally posted by krylon
                                                                                                      Hey Robert,
                                                                                                      How many tube sites do you own actually?

                                                                                                      jizzload.com
                                                                                                      cool name. private registration info.

                                                                                                      pornobug.com
                                                                                                      Cute name. Too bad it's Private

                                                                                                      oh wait. that's weird. They both use the same DNS servers. I wonder who owns those?

                                                                                                      so you don't pursue tubesites because? Oh yeah. It's called 'stopfilelockers'. Wouldn't have to do with the fact that you've been paid from the tubesites, and you own tubesites though? That jizzload domain sounds really familiar. I wonder 'who' you bought that from. ;)
                                                                                                      You can read the following comments, where AK states that these were "legal" tubes, whatever it means...

                                                                                                      This seems to be quite common in the IP protection industry that pirates found anti piracy companies - maybe directly charging rightholders is more profitable than profiting from piracy

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