Killing off File Lockers

[signupdamnit]

Yup. Something isn't right.
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I feel the same way.

I can't say that I blame AK though for whatever it is. The industry is basically controlled by pirates of varying shades. Extremely corrupt. I think he (and the volunteers and contributors) did some good though in the time the effort existed and I thank him/them for that.

[AdultKing]

AK you didnt give in to temptation and take a juicy salary gig with one of your adversaries right?

No.

he mentioned a 6 figure offer...thus my curiosity

No.

You're a smart guy Duke, and in reading your last few posts on this subject you seem to agree that something here just doesn't pass the smell test...

Yup. Something isn't right.
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It has smelled fishy to me since day one.

I feel the same way.

There is no conspiracy and no hidden agenda.

The facts are that in September we were told by our primary source of funding that all funding was being reviewed and that a decision would be made by October 1. Then October 1st came along and we were told that the review would take another month and we were asked if we could keep going pending the outcome of the review. Unfortunately we had run out of funds for recurrent expenditure by the end of September thus I advised that the project would shut down.

I have given 15 months of my time to this project. There has to come a point at which one asks why they should continue to prop up such a project when the majority of the online adult industry couldn't care less if there was piracy or not ?

I signed up for this project knowing what it would entail. I gladly copped the abuse, the innuendo, the questioning of my motives and so on because I knew that with the right amount of effort and by staying the course that a big impact could be made reducing the damage caused by the file locker industry.

However the fact is that our major contributor was the very company you all love to hate. Apart from a handful of people and companies, the rest of the industry just stood by offering no support or funding.

Now in this very thread people are questioning why the project closed and what the motivation is for closing it.

Why should I continue to prop up this project when the rest of the industry couldn't care less ? I spent 15 months around the clock, phone meetings at 4am, trips in and out of the office at all hours, meetings in Singapore or Bangkok, hours and hours of absolutely mind numbing work sifting through report after report while putting together a case as to why a file locker should lose payment processing. Only those of you on the inside know how much work was involved.

For those of you who think the project made no difference, just watch how things shift over the next twelve months. Watch as all the Kim Dotcom wannabes set up Mega clones, observe the re-introduction of PPD by all the larger file lockers, see how many new file lockers spring up accepting Paypal, Payza or Moneybookers. Watch the resurgence of site-rip sites and forums.

Whilst we were criticised for shutting down new little sites what most people failed to see what that Oron was once a new little site. Without us shutting down new sites before they could get going they'll grow and they'll become yet another portal for large scale infringement.

For those of you who don't think the closure of this project passes the smell test then consider this. I have my own life, with non adult business interests that could benefit from my time and effort. Why should I continue to prop this project up when the majority of the industry doesn't care ? I'll go and work on other things.

I am willing to restart this project if a reliable source of funding can be found. We need around AUD $10k a month to keep going as we were before. I'm willing to commit to another 12 months of my time for free in that case.

In the absence of that, then the project is done and I will spend my time on other things.

[Captain Kawaii]

I can chip in on a recurring basis if that business model materializes.

I am really sad to see AK stop. The pirates must be laughing and swinging into high gear at this point.

I wonder when YNOT will start offering awards for pirates? We've already had keynote pirate boy so...why not?

[bean-aid]

However the fact is that our major contributor was the very company you all love to hate. Apart from a handful of people and companies, the rest of the industry just stood by offering no support or funding.

I for one would chip in monthly... like I said if 233 people cannot pay $30/month for the cause... adult is dead.

I would also ask that the company we all love to hate be a target as well and not make it strictly file locker campaign.

[Axeman]

I'd also contribute on a recurring monthly basis if such a system is set up.

[PiracyPitbull]

Id contribute monthly.

[EpicPanda]

Said it before, but so would I.

[GregE]

And I too.

[LouiseLloyd]

The biggest beneficiary to ridding the internet of filelockers is the tubes, they must have realised this from the start hence the funding, but the impact must have been so negligible even they realised the return wasn't worth the investment.

Treating all pirates as one is the only way you will get industry wide support.

[AdultKing]

I can chip in on a recurring basis if that business model materializes.

I am really sad to see AK stop. The pirates must be laughing and swinging into high gear at this point.

I wonder when YNOT will start offering awards for pirates? We've already had keynote pirate boy so...why not?

I for one would chip in monthly... like I said if 233 people cannot pay $30/month for the cause... adult is dead.

I would also ask that the company we all love to hate be a target as well and not make it strictly file locker campaign.

I'd also contribute on a recurring monthly basis if such a system is set up.

Id contribute monthly.

Said it before, but so would I.

And I too.

Given the replies above I have decided that we will keep going for at least another month.

I will make a contribution from one of my non adult businesses in order to cover immediate costs.

In the next 24 hours I will set up a subscription system with payment via Paypal on the Copy Control website. Anyone who wishes to support the project will be able to choose between a $30, $50, $100, $200 or $500 recurring subscription.

In the next six hours the infringements@ and enforcement@ mailboxes will be reactivated and the Report Piracy form on the Copy Control website will be working again.

Our schedule of reports for Monday 7th of October will go out as per normal, then our reporting will continue as it did prior to the close down.

I need to make it clear that this project lives and dies by the support it receives, so if you want to see us continue then now will be the time to show your support.

[whOaKemosabe]

oh really

[AdultKing]

The Report Piracy form is now live again

https://copycontrol.org/report-piracy/

Once the other services come up I will post here.

[GregE]

You're the man!

Long live the king

[AdultKing]

All of the infringement reporting systems are back up.

Please send copies of your DMCA notices to [email protected]

If you need to escalate a specific infringement notice then please send an email describing the issue together with attached copies of infringement notices relating to the issue to [email protected]. Please only escalate repeat infringement or issues where DMCA notices have not been complied with.

Our crawlers will come back up over the coming hours and should be fully operational Monday morning.

I will post details of where and how people can subscribe to the project on Monday morning.

[freakfiles]

Given the replies above I have decided that we will keep going for at least another month.

Cheap trick to collect money from the webmasters. I'm not an idiot, better take my girlfriend out a few times instead.

Meanwhile according to Alexa Uploaded.net enjoys Global Rank of 227. PlanetSuzy is filled to the gills with Uploaded.net links containing content from almost every studio out there and there's also an open affiliate program successfully advertised via Wjunction and other venues.

[$tandaman]

Given the replies above I have decided that we will keep going for at least another month.

I will make a contribution from one of my non adult businesses in order to cover immediate costs.

In the next 24 hours I will set up a subscription system with payment via Paypal on the Copy Control website. Anyone who wishes to support the project will be able to choose between a $30, $50, $100, $200 or $500 recurring subscription.

In the next six hours the infringements@ and enforcement@ mailboxes will be reactivated and the Report Piracy form on the Copy Control website will be working again.

Our schedule of reports for Monday 7th of October will go out as per normal, then our reporting will continue as it did prior to the close down.

I need to make it clear that this project lives and dies by the support it receives, so if you want to see us continue then now will be the time to show your support.

I think that's a good idea.. once people signup for even $30.. they will not cancel, and move by inertia.. so you just need to break through the monthly fin requirements.. to be able to maintain the business.

I will signup when link is available. I would imagine a new thread would be appropriate at that time to get extra attention.

[Axeman]

Excellent news AK. Look forward for the link to signup for the recurring donation.

[johnnyloadproductions]

This will be my last post in this thread, there isn't any reason to keep debating now that things have closed.

If you have questions, read back through this thread as they will be answered to how this campaign was making a difference.

I apologize, but I am now forced to retract my statement, due to recent events I will be posting in this thread again.

Also, I will start by subscribing at $100 and will likely increase it to $250 before long.

[adendreams]

Cheap trick to collect money from the webmasters. I'm not an idiot, better take my girlfriend out a few times instead.

Meanwhile according to Alexa Uploaded.net enjoys Global Rank of 227. PlanetSuzy is filled to the gills with Uploaded.net links containing content from almost every studio out there and there's also an open affiliate program successfully advertised via Wjunction and other venues.

Lots of pirate criminals reading this site it looks like...can't wait to help destroy more of them.

AK if there is anything you need (of course I will join at $100 per month) but ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO (legally) let me know.

Thanks for not giving up on this just yet.

[PiracyPitbull]

Cheap trick to collect money from the webmasters. I'm not an idiot, better take my girlfriend out a few times instead.

Meanwhile according to Alexa Uploaded.net enjoys Global Rank of 227. PlanetSuzy is filled to the gills with Uploaded.net links containing content from almost every studio out there and there's also an open affiliate program successfully advertised via Wjunction and other venues.

Here's the thing with most cheap tricks.....they actually have to be cheap. They usually in addition require the bare minimum of effort and talent from the person performing the trick. So what you're actually describing is the majority of pirates.


If someone were profit motivated , do you not think that they would be far better off choosing some of the hundreds of online scams and illegal ventures that would actually yield a quick and easy return and require almost zero effort, than to tackle the filelocker eco-system ?

[candyflip]

Given the replies above I have decided that we will keep going for at least another month.

I will make a contribution from one of my non adult businesses in order to cover immediate costs.

In the next 24 hours I will set up a subscription system with payment via Paypal on the Copy Control website. Anyone who wishes to support the project will be able to choose between a $30, $50, $100, $200 or $500 recurring subscription.

In the next six hours the infringements@ and enforcement@ mailboxes will be reactivated and the Report Piracy form on the Copy Control website will be working again.

Our schedule of reports for Monday 7th of October will go out as per normal, then our reporting will continue as it did prior to the close down.

I need to make it clear that this project lives and dies by the support it receives, so if you want to see us continue then now will be the time to show your support.

[Screwed Up]

Given the replies above I have decided that we will keep going for at least another month.

I will make a contribution from one of my non adult businesses in order to cover immediate costs.

In the next 24 hours I will set up a subscription system with payment via Paypal on the Copy Control website. Anyone who wishes to support the project will be able to choose between a $30, $50, $100, $200 or $500 recurring subscription.

In the next six hours the infringements@ and enforcement@ mailboxes will be reactivated and the Report Piracy form on the Copy Control website will be working again.

Our schedule of reports for Monday 7th of October will go out as per normal, then our reporting will continue as it did prior to the close down.

I need to make it clear that this project lives and dies by the support it receives, so if you want to see us continue then now will be the time to show your support.

Finally, some good news.


For the naysayers

[AdultKing]

All of the crawlers and back end systems are now running again.

Reports will go off this morning as usual and then the reporting will continue as normal.

Someone posted a thread about stolen websites (site-rips). Please report such sites to https://copycontrol.org/report-piracy so they get placed into our system and onto Podio for action.

[johnnyloadproductions]

All of the crawlers and back end systems are now running again.

Reports will go off this morning as usual and then the reporting will continue as normal.

Someone posted a thread about stolen websites (site-rips). Please report such sites to https://copycontrol.org/report-piracy so they get placed into our system and onto Podio for action.

I know you said you'd have a system for recurring subscription up Monday, but that is a key focus, this needs to be made sustainable.

[adultmobile]

[WDF]

Cheap trick to collect money from the webmasters. I'm not an idiot, better take my girlfriend out a few times instead.

Meanwhile according to Alexa Uploaded.net enjoys Global Rank of 227. PlanetSuzy is filled to the gills with Uploaded.net links containing content from almost every studio out there and there's also an open affiliate program successfully advertised via Wjunction and other venues.

Read back through this thread and do a little research. Planet Suzy is/was a Kaktuz holding as is/was Wjunction. Messages between Kaktuz/Capone as the admin/owner/agent of Wjunction and Sinem/Uploaded owner/operator/agent of a $9600.00 USD per quarter advertiser/protection payment have been posted online.

There is more then likely a similar arrangement on Planet Suzy.
Any association between those groups/sites is really old news.

[nikki99]

AK

[FreeHugeMovies]

Keep on rocking

[AdultKing]

I spent the day getting all our services back up and running and getting the office going again.

Joker and I tried to get a fundraising system set up tonight but it was too buggy to take live. We'll look for a solution tomorrow.

I have meetings in about 5 hours so I need to squeeze in some sleep.

Will update further in the morning.

[Triple-A]

I will have a word with some of my fellow spank site producers here in the UK... between us all you'd get a few hundred a month and that's from a supposed small niche as ours in this country. Some of us have been dreadfully ripped off by pirates and it does hurt when we see site rips of our content! TBH, I can't afford it but i'll do it anyway... fuck those that sit on the fence all the fucking time and don't contribute to this epic cause!

I am astounded by some of the apathy from the major porn producers... I know what you had been doing was helping a great deal... I hope you continue, AK!

[adendreams]

I will have a word with some of my fellow spank site producers here in the UK... between us all you'd get a few hundred a month and that's from a supposed small niche as ours in this country. Some of us have been dreadfully ripped off by pirates and it does hurt when we see site rips of our content! TBH, I can't afford it but i'll do it anyway... fuck those that sit on the fence all the fucking time and don't contribute to this epic cause!

I am astounded by some of the apathy from the major porn producers... I know what you had been doing was helping a great deal... I hope you continue, AK!

Nice statement.
yea small targeted niche stuff is hurt the worst by filelockers, and because of that we are also able to really notice the good AK is doing...more so I think than the big producers that have stuff all over tubes to begin with.

[JimmyStephans]

The subscription models sounds cool but to kick off the restart I just sent another $500 by Paxum!

I hope others will too.

[BlackAndBlue]

This site needs a Like button

The type of impact you indicate you were expecting is do-able but requires much more of an effort then was ever supported here. It takes a lot of time and resources to get a site shutdown or taken offline legally. It might be done if you concentrate the efforts on 1 site over a period of time and with ample resources. Although as long as the ability to profit exists another would replace it in no time at all. AK's effort employed a different strategy, rather then targeting people, domain names, content takedowns, sites, etc. he targeted the cash flow. You need to kill the cash flow to kill the sites.

Did you really expect a small underfunded group of volunteers to forcibly close large piracy sites in 18 months time? Expecting that type of result from dimes when there are dollars being spent on the other side is a bit unrealistic. I am sure many of you will begin to see the effect the effort did have in a month or 2 when the ability to monetize goes unchecked. You are dealing with people numbering in the millions that become very irate over $10 a month.

and this

There is NO instant gratification for this type of work, it is a long process if you do it legally and are lucky enough to be successful.

While other organized efforts have seemingly been bought by the very people they are supposed to be fighting AK was making enough of an impact to be hated and feared by the other side. Making mitigation and removal deals with file lockers for your donating members is just another protection racket that borders on organized criminal activity IMO.

I am very happy to see this program continuing if the money can be generated - AK - please post a PayPal account address, so those that can't afford subscriptions can at least do a one time/smaller donation?

It's amazing the majority would rather cry over loss of traffic and income and harass anyone that tries to make a difference than actually do something (anything) to stop the rip-off. The majority in this industry deserve what they get, IMO.

[adendreams]

The subscription models sounds cool but to kick off the restart I just sent another $500 by Paxum!

I hope others will too.

Kudos Jimmy - nice donation

[axel77]

It's like people who are linking to the file lockers saying "ohh we are only linking to these files, we are not responsible"

File lockers saying, "ohh we are not responsible for the the content people uploads"

Yes, sure, I will make both responsible, Iam sorry.

[bean-aid]

AK... please also put up a running tally of those contributing. Usually that kind of thing is taboo, non-classy stuff. In this case... we need to see who puts their money where their mouth is!

[JimmyStephans]

I can't speak for others but AK is welcome to post my contributions (total or each by date). I'm going to PM him right now to let him know.

[bean-aid]

I can't speak for others but AK is welcome to post my contributions (total or each by date). I'm going to PM him right now to let him know.

That's how I feel.

I also think that by displaying those that contribute will give a needed incentive to others to contribute. Bottom line... AK tried the contribution thing and it didn't work... so try the recurring model and then display those that do contribute.
Even let those that contribute market whatever brand they have.

In my opinion it will work. It will also separate those that want to make a statement that they want to fight piracy as well. It will also give the thieves an incentive to contribute until they get called out... then they can also be shamed. It's a witch hunt and we need to go back to rudimentary thinking in order to create any kind of worthwhile cause.

My 2 cents

[WDF]

Which Witch? There is a witch hunt going on on the pirate side of things.

Oh my: http://pastebin.com/UyE5G6uh

Seems there is another bunch of activity on the @AntiWarez twitter feed.

Arrrgh Mateys, looks like rough waters ahead! LOL

[bean-aid]

Which Witch? There is a witch hunt going on on the pirate side of things.

Oh my: http://pastebin.com/UyE5G6uh

Seems there is another bunch of activity on the @AntiWarez twitter feed.

Arrrgh Mateys, looks like rough waters ahead! LOL

hmmm... hidemyass cannot load your url... just print screen and paste image

[WDF]

Relax it will pop up elsewhere before long.

The release people usually post/upload to multiple sources.

Nice list of usernames, email addresses, and IPs from BayW though.


Added: Looks like some Pirate on Pirate Non-Violence!

Are there Good Pirates? Maybe Robin Hoode and his Merry Men

[WDF]

Which Witch? There is a witch hunt going on on the pirate side of things.

Oh my: http://pastebin.centos.org/4861/<======== New Source

Seems there is another bunch of activity on the @AntiWarez twitter feed.

Arrrgh Mateys, looks like rough waters ahead! LOL

New source: http://pastebin.centos.org/4861/

[AdultKing]

The subscription models sounds cool but to kick off the restart I just sent another $500 by Paxum!

Thank you.

I am very happy to see this program continuing if the money can be generated - AK - please post a PayPal account address, so those that can't afford subscriptions can at least do a one time/smaller donation?

You can do that via Paxum or Paypal at [email protected]

AK... please also put up a running tally of those contributing. Usually that kind of thing is taboo, non-classy stuff. In this case... we need to see who puts their money where their mouth is!

I was hoping to have this set up today but getting everything going and having meetings from 4.30am this morning has left me with no time left today. It's on the top of my list for the morning.

I can't speak for others but AK is welcome to post my contributions (total or each by date). I'm going to PM him right now to let him know.

I don't accept PM's on GFY but thanks for that.

I also think that by displaying those that contribute will give a needed incentive to others to contribute. Bottom line... AK tried the contribution thing and it didn't work... so try the recurring model and then display those that do contribute. Even let those that contribute market whatever brand they have.

I'm going to put a supporters page on both the Stop File Lockers and Copy Control websites.

Oh my: http://pastebin.com/UyE5G6uh

Seems there is another bunch of activity on the @AntiWarez twitter feed.

Arrrgh Mateys, looks like rough waters ahead! LOL

I'll pass that list of email addresses on to the relevant people, there'll be repercussions for those members in that list.

I've had a really long day today. Everything is now running again, we finished getting the office going again today. I'll set the fundraising system up tomorrow morning. We have already tried one but it was too buggy.

We've already got a round of terminations going and I'll post an updated list on Thursday.

[MrDeiz]

can i repeat once again my ask?

i've been long time supporter of your campaign and you just ignore me.
i would like also to email all affiliate programs, but not with your attitude

[AdultKing]

can i repeat once again my ask?

i've been long time supporter of your campaign and you just ignore me.
i would like also to email all affiliate programs, but not with your attitude

I don't deliberately ignore anyone, it's just that there are only so many hours in a day.

What is it you need? I'll try and do what ever it is in the morning.

[MrDeiz]

you've got an email

[JimmyStephans]

Which Witch? There is a witch hunt going on on the pirate side of things.

Oh my: http://pastebin.com/UyE5G6uh

Seems there is another bunch of activity on the @AntiWarez twitter feed.

Arrrgh Mateys, looks like rough waters ahead! LOL

I got lost here. What is that list? Pirates?

[WDF]

Yes Jimmy. It is the user list from a warez site is what I was told.

[BlackAndBlue]

Thank you for the email for donations via Paxum or PayPal AdultKing.

There are people in this industry that are being affected by the outcome of piracy that don't own websites or own the content that is produced, but are feeling the loss of industry income by not having regular work because profits have declined so far producers are cutting back.

Those people include performers, sales people, camera men, makeup artists, publicists, Production Assistants, retailers and location managers . . . among many others. Those people have never made the big bucks that a content producer/owner does, so having a way to help support the fight against piracy that can be worked into their personal budgets is very cool.

[DamianJ]

I got lost here. What is that list? Pirates?

Who knows. It's a list of email addresses on pastebin, but AK said he will make sure of the feel the fury of his anger.