Is Damian Jennings An Inspiration To You Regarding Marketinging?

[Penny24Seven]

I keep seeing people talk about Paul and his majic, is everyone talking about 5 years ago or so when he was talking about getting joins without traffic or something and they were called the majic joins? I didn't think he would ever live that one down.

[ShoeBox]

Pauls the only person that joins his sites

[anexsia]

I keep seeing people talk about Paul and his majic, is everyone talking about 5 years ago or so when he was talking about getting joins without traffic or something and they were called the majic joins? I didn't think he would ever live that one down.

Yes, he was bragging about membership sales on his website, but someone quickly pointed out that none of his signup/billing pages worked....he was caught in a pretty big lie.

[Brad Mitchell]

Damian is a great writer, very knowledgeable in several areas, extremely creative and a good friend, too.

Brad

[epitome]

Damian is a great writer, very knowledgeable in several areas, extremely creative and a good friend, too.

Brad

Now that is an endorsement. Thoughts on Paul?

[epitome]

Yes, he was bragging about membership sales on his website, but someone quickly pointed out that none of his signup/billing pages worked....he was caught in a pretty big lie.

The lesson was he exposed his propensity for lying but we are supposed to believe everything he says today.

[Zuzana Designs]

Damian has introduced me several large clients over the years and is an inspiration to myself and my business.

[Brad Mitchell]

Now that is an endorsement. Thoughts on Paul?

I rather liked Paul's more recent thread where he was posting and reflecting on his life, work and what's important. I don't know him very well, we have not done business and yes of course I think he has had lots of crazy posts on GFY in the past. With that said, I still respect his experience and it seems often from his posts that he is passionate about things such as Eva, copyrights and his life of work. Can't hate someone for those things and I think it would also be difficult to disrespect any of those that I mentioned.

None of us has to be a millionaire to be worthy or of value. One also doesn't have to be right all of the time. I'm kind of hoping to see Paul at the Summit in Prague and have a friendly chat over a drink. The last time I met him was many years ago in Prague at a conference. I was a lot younger then and I suppose at that time we both wrote each other off.

I don't spend too much time judging people on GFY. In my 13 years in the business I have likely met more than 5000 people. I rather have conversations in person or on the phone. The abundance of keyboard warrioring and online conversation make it very hard sometimes to reconcile people, especially when the interaction was of substance in person.

Damian, I had best see you in London, too!

Brad

[Paul Markham]

email marketing.

OK, so nothing porn related.

[Mike Dutch]

Damian helped me increase my conversions with about 45% and increased overall uservalue with 25%, besides that long tail third party joins increased drastically with his email marketing skills. That resulted in sending joins to 3rd parties, but also in receiving those back. That is of tremendous value.

[sojproductions]

I used his email marketing in the lessons section and reaped the rewards. I used his techniques as a base and applied a few elements of my own, I literally made thousands in the first circulation. I should have been doing it already, but I overlooked it and his posts pushed me into it, and i'm grateful they did. The success rate has died off now, so Damian if you've got any more tips to revitalise!?

So yes, he was an inspiration - the arguments between you guys, while some times amusing do not inspire and surely it's a waste of both your time.

[papill0n]

clearly people have much more respect for damian than paul

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chalk it up to yet another thread backfire markham and go fuck your jigsaw

[DamianJ]

Thanks for all the kind words guys. I really appreciate it.

#anothermarkhamthreadbackfire

[Paul Markham]

Damian helped me increase my conversions with about 45% and increased overall uservalue with 25%, besides that long tail third party joins increased drastically with his email marketing skills. That resulted in sending joins to 3rd parties, but also in receiving those back. That is of tremendous value.

I used his email marketing in the lessons section and reaped the rewards. I used his techniques as a base and applied a few elements of my own, I literally made thousands in the first circulation. I should have been doing it already, but I overlooked it and his posts pushed me into it, and i'm grateful they did. The success rate has died off now, so Damian if you've got any more tips to revitalise!?

So yes, he was an inspiration - the arguments between you guys, while some times amusing do not inspire and surely it's a waste of both your time.

Now that is awesome and I'm glad for you. Seems at emailing he's very good.

The day he stops his insults against Eva and insinuations that I attacked a member of staff, had to get out of the UK, begging and have any thing but a normal liking of children. Him and me are fine.

Insult my work, when you can tell mine from other peoples, insult me about being old, ugly, stupid, out of touch, but keep it real. I am old, stupid, out of touch. so glad I made some money. Even his jokes about me being broke are acceptable. I know the truth.

He will never do this.

[lagcam]

I always knew this was all contrived....

I bet they are sitting on Paul's sofa sharing a cabbage ale and laughing their asses off.

[Paul Markham]

I always knew this was all contrived....

I bet they are sitting on Paul's sofa sharing a cabbage ale and laughing their asses off.

If we were, we would be sitting on my sofa and he would be explaining his insults and lies to Eva, Rajah and me.

Trying to find him some work at the moment.

[DamianJ]

Sorry I started this thread Damian, it appears you are very well respected and not only that, liked. I'll go over to B&B now and just start a few threads there trying to troll you because you've clearly beaten me over here. I quit.

It had to happen eventually Paul. No hard feelings. Good luck with trolling at B&B, I'm sure it will go well for you because of all the friends and admirers you have there.

[Paul Markham]

Thank you for getting me a new client, I'm sure with all your contacts you could get me more. Also thank you very much for sharpening up my blog on direct selling. You are right questioning a person's choices and business isn't the best way to get his trust

No problems Damian. Yes if you need more introductions to people like Viv Thomas you need only ask, I know many similar people and large website owners.

[epitome]

I rather liked Paul's more recent thread where he was posting and reflecting on his life, work and what's important. I don't know him very well, we have not done business and yes of course I think he has had lots of crazy posts on GFY in the past. With that said, I still respect his experience and it seems often from his posts that he is passionate about things such as Eva, copyrights and his life of work. Can't hate someone for those things and I think it would also be difficult to disrespect any of those that I mentioned.

None of us has to be a millionaire to be worthy or of value. One also doesn't have to be right all of the time. I'm kind of hoping to see Paul at the Summit in Prague and have a friendly chat over a drink. The last time I met him was many years ago in Prague at a conference. I was a lot younger then and I suppose at that time we both wrote each other off.

I don't spend too much time judging people on GFY. In my 13 years in the business I have likely met more than 5000 people. I rather have conversations in person or on the phone. The abundance of keyboard warrioring and online conversation make it very hard sometimes to reconcile people, especially when the interaction was of substance in person.

Damian, I had best see you in London, too!

Brad

Always the diplomat. And for that I like you.

[epitome]

OK, so nothing porn related.

That's a joke, right? A list of members and ex-members is golden.

[DamianJ]

No problems Damian. Yes if you need more introductions to people like Viv Thomas you need only ask, I know many similar people and large website owners.

Haha! Nice one!

As I told you, I think Viv Thomas is a cunt and I wouldn't work for him if I was starving. He is a mysogonistic, dirty old man who has a daughter who hates him and tells everyone within earshot.

Sorry your troll posts failed so badly on B&B.

Sad to say, you're not going to be winning Troll of the Year here this year

I got your email pretending to be from Eva begging me to stop making you look stupid Paul. That was funny. The part about you having nothing in your life apart from GFY was good.

[DamianJ]

That's a joke, right? A list of members and ex-members is golden.

If you saw the emails he sends to try and sell his content you'd understand he has less of a clue about email marketing than he does making join pages.

Seriously, the most pathetic email I've ever seen. No understanding of the medium, no permission, no personalisation, nothing. Just a long list of pictures and no call to action.

For someone that claims he was a successful furniture salesman, he doesn't seem to know the basics of the sales process.

But, that was probably a lie too.

Left school at 15, no qualifications because he was so very stupid, bummed around taking drugs, got involved in crime to make some money, spunked that, and fled the UK to rent a shack in a cabbage field that his 'wife' has to work as a secretary to pay the rent on!

lolsome.

[lagcam]

I think there is no doubt that Damian knows his stuff, and by all accounts in real life he is a great guy but personally I think online he goes too far.

These constant pot-shots at Paul's wife are unnecessary. If you need to argue with somebody's viewpoint argue with their viewpoint, you don't need to bring his wife, his house and all the other shitty stuff in every post.

These threads are amusing and sad at the same time.

[Tasty1]

Yes Paul, go for it! You can win that troll of the year award in Amsterdam september 21 again! The animated gif made me smile.

What award can Damian win? The both can't live without the other. Action = reaction, so a part of the award must go to Damian!

www.webmasteraccess.com

[DamianJ]

I think there is no doubt that Damian knows his stuff, and by all accounts in real life he is a great guy but personally I think online he goes too far.

These constant pot-shots at Paul's wife are unnecessary. If you need to argue with somebody's viewpoint argue with their viewpoint, you don't need to bring his wife, his house and all the other shitty stuff in every post.

These threads are amusing and sad at the same time.

Maybe if Paul had stalked you and spent the best part of the last 5 years posting disgusting lies about you, deliberately trying to damage your business, saying you stole all your work, that you break the law, are a pirate a spammer etc, paying to access UK census sites to try and find out where you live, posting Google Maps pictures of your house etc etc you might think differently.

He brought it all on himself, sadly.

But if it bothers you, do feel free to put me on ignore.

[B.Barnato]

I got your email pretending to be from Eva begging me to stop making you look stupid Paul. That was funny. The part about you having nothing in your life apart from GFY was good.

What?

[lagcam]

Maybe if Paul had stalked you and spent the best part of the last 5 years posting disgusting lies about you, deliberately trying to damage your business, saying you stole all your work, that you break the law, are a pirate a spammer etc, paying to access UK census sites to try and find out where you live, posting Google Maps pictures of your house etc etc you might think differently.

He brought it all on himself, sadly.

But if it bothers you, do feel free to put me on ignore.

How old are you Damian? It's a serious question.

[DamianJ]

How old are you Damian? It's a serious question.

Think of a better serious question.

Look, the point is, Paul is a hopeless old fuck and I really enjoy trolling him because he ALWAYS responds. It amuses me, and others.

If you don't like it, put me on ignore and like the gay magician, I will vanish with a poof.

:D

[DVTimes]

Paul is a good chap.

I have herd stuff about damian, and i would not trust him one bit. some of you would be rather sick if you knew the truth about damian.

[anexsia]

Think of a better serious question.

Look, the point is, Paul is a hopeless old fuck and I really enjoy trolling him because he ALWAYS responds. It amuses me, and others.

If you don't like it, put me on ignore and like the gay magician, I will vanish with a poof.

:D

it's definitely amusing

[Paul Markham]

If you saw the emails he sends to try and sell his content you'd understand he has less of a clue about email marketing than he does making join pages.

Seriously, the most pathetic email I've ever seen. No understanding of the medium, no permission, no personalisation, nothing. Just a long list of pictures and no call to action.

For someone that claims he was a successful furniture salesman, he doesn't seem to know the basics of the sales process.

But, that was probably a lie too.

Left school at 15, no qualifications because he was so very stupid, bummed around taking drugs, got involved in crime to make some money, spunked that, and fled the UK to rent a shack in a cabbage field that his 'wife' has to work as a secretary to pay the rent on!

lolsome.

I know enough about selling to not walk into a strangers office or contact him in any way and tell him he's doing something wrong or start asking him about what he's buying, who from ad how much he pays.

Definition ? define your prospect?s need or problem Nobody wants to know they have a problem or their business has a problem, especially from a stranger. Find another approach such as something they could more out of that is on the sidelines, something others are doing and they're not.

Identification ? identify a solution to that need or problem Identify how you can assist them to exploit that under exploited or ignored resource.

Proof ? prove your solution solves their problem/meets their need. See above.

Agreement ? get them to agree it solves their problem And get to look like a know all dick head, whie they get someone else to fix the problem or throw you out.

Desire ? instil a desire for them to have your solution Install a desire in them to increase their business by exploiting a new level, or an under exploited tier.

For instance, don't tell people their emails are wrong. Especially on a public forum.

The main thing is to actually ask lots and lots of questions of your prospect. So you can get information that you can then ?use against them? when selling. So Paul Markham could call people up and say: The main thing is not to cross examine a prospect as a stranger. Get into a conversation with him about improving his business by exploiting another tier.

Where do you buy content from? = Why did you buy that.

What kind of content do you buy? = Because I can't tell and I'm better than him anyway.

What makes you decide which company to buy from? = Because it's none of my business, you should be buying from me. And again I'm questioning your decision.

How often do you buy? Take a look and decide for yourself.

What prompts your purchasing decision? Stupid question if you think of it.

Do you have an annual budget for content? [B]-= Can I see how much I can take from you?/B]

Action ? close the deal Assuming he hasn't thrown you out or just stopped listening to you. You're also assuming he hasn't fed you a lot of BS answers. People do lie.

This is how you sell to a brand new customer who doesn't know you from Adam.

Research the company and what it does as much as possible.

Find a part of their business they're not getting the maximum return on, or a part of the business similar companies like them are expanding into. Investigate why.

Identify your solution, in products or your skills.

Make contact by opening with ways to maximise that part of their business, to get an appointment to discuss. Can be on the phone of by online chat, nothing beats face to face. If he doesn't want to meet, move on to the next one.

Discuss only that part of the business. Do not question, think, hint, indicate they are presently doing anything wrong. The time to do this is after you have proved yourself and got their trust and business. A great way of expanding your revenue and involvement with the client.

While discussing explore their business needs, thoughts and directions. They do the talking you do the listening. all the time getting them to agree to your statement "So that would be good for you". In different terminology so you don't sound like a broken record. you need to build their trust in you so put in some helpful tips along the way without revealing the slam dunk close.

All the time building them into a "Affirmative frame of mind". In a clothes shop when the customer likes a dress say "That looks great on you, doesn't it?" Can use colour, fit, cloth, length, etc.

When selling office furniture, establish points like, customers seeing the office, who are using the furniture and for what, life expectancy as in terms of refurbishing. So you can come back with. "It's important to you what clients think as they enter your offices." OR "So with commodity dealers you need something to take a lot of wear and tear." Or "As you refurbish once every ten years, having furniture that will last is important."

What you don't do is ask where they bought that dress/furniture or how much she paid for it. you're questioning their decisions.

[nico-t]

Paul is a good chap.

I have herd stuff about damian, and i would not trust him one bit. some of you would be rather sick if you knew the truth about damian.

yeah I'm sure everyone would value what you have to say
isn't it a sunny day in the UK? What are you doing online, shouldn't you be prancing around in your wedding dress somewhere?

[NickSpillum]

Haha! Nice one!

As I told you, I think Viv Thomas is a cunt and I wouldn't work for him if I was starving. He is a mysogonistic, dirty old man who has a daughter who hates him and tells everyone within earshot.

Best you apologize for that slanderous comment about Viv Thomas, Damian. According to him, you have never met, but may well do so in the very near future.

He would appreciate you to contact him directly to explain your behaviour on a public forum such as this. I'll PM you his number if you're up for it.

[Paul Markham]

I got your email pretending to be from Eva begging me to stop making you look stupid Paul. That was funny. The part about you having nothing in your life apart from GFY was good.

Proof please.

I think there is no doubt that Damian knows his stuff, and by all accounts in real life he is a great guy but personally I think online he goes too far.

These constant pot-shots at Paul's wife are unnecessary. If you need to argue with somebody's viewpoint argue with their viewpoint, you don't need to bring his wife, his house and all the other shitty stuff in every post.

These threads are amusing and sad at the same time.

Damian knows about email marketing. When it comes to selling as I pointed out, he copied the wrong page. Imagine if you were being asked by a stranger all these questions or being told any part of your business is a problem. If you get him to think it is, he's likely to go around looking for other people to provide the solution. Coming in at a different angle is always the best way. No one want to know they're doing something wrong from some stranger who is coming over like he knows it all.

[DamianJ]

Oh Paul, I'm sorry, your post on B&B got no responses apart from people telling you to fuck off, so you have to post it again here?

Lolsome double fail!

Keep it going, this is awesome.

I'm just packing up the car to go to a lovely festival for the weekend and your constant Massive Jug Of Fail is really making me laugh.

[DamianJ]

According to him, you have never met, but may well do so in the very near future.

Ooh, vague threats on message boards!

I love it!

[Paul Markham]

Maybe if Paul had stalked you and spent the best part of the last 5 years posting disgusting lies about you, deliberately trying to damage your business, saying you stole all your work, that you break the law, are a pirate a spammer etc, paying to access UK census sites to try and find out where you live, posting Google Maps pictures of your house etc etc you might think differently.

He brought it all on himself, sadly.

But if it bothers you, do feel free to put me on ignore.

Proof please. I have proved my side and even here you prove your abuse of Eva and I. You have constantly dodged giving us proof.

Yes I paid to access a UK census report to prove you lied about where you live. The only Damian Jennings of your approx age, living with someone who might be called Jen. Isn't Arundel. Now people can see my continual exposing your lies is getting to you.

I never said stole all your work. I said copied and pasted from the Internet. If the article you wrote on selling was copied, you copied the wrong one. Maybe you rewrote. Still as illustrated, it's wrong.

You and I have superbly illustrated how telling strangers they're doing it wrong, just gets their backs up. I could after I had established myself with people tell them how to do it better. That they made a wrong decision on rejecting a set and to take a closer look at it. Or even changing the direction of their business.

You fail to understand I was never really interest in selling to 90% of the people on the boards, most are people who will never buy content, most of the rest want custom for a price I won't shoot for. And those that do, buy on price not quality. The stores were only another income stream for magazine sets. The paysites were another income stream as well. We were never going to give up magazines and stores business to open sites.

Where his article on selling is. http://www.adultmarketing.co.uk/2011/10/16/how-to-sell/

[DamianJ]

And here's a marketing tip for you. Forget split testing and try MVT. Google offers a free service. You upload different versions of different sections of your tour/lander/email/whatever and google makes loads of varients of the page using your content.

You quickly can see which images/text/colours/sizes work best for you.

Simple and free.

[DamianJ]

Yes I paid to access a UK census report to prove you lied about where you live.

You are fucking mental, aren't you?

Why would anyone lie about where they live?

I never said stole all your work. I said copied and pasted from the Internet.

Lol. Which is stealing, isn't it?

Google is great Paul, you can take ANYTHING from my blog, put quotes on it, then search. You'll see no results. All the ideas are mine.

You, however, do have stolen content on your blogs. Still.

Brilliant. Keep it up Paul!

Do you try and shoot yourself in the foot, or is it accidental?

[Paul Markham]

Paul is a good chap.

I have herd stuff about damian, and i would not trust him one bit. some of you would be rather sick if you knew the truth about damian.

Adam please don't go down that route. It's Damian's route.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18483101&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18178754&postcount=24

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18162428&postcount=475

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http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19099951&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104760&postcount=72

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19103044&postcount=74

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104755&postcount=85

Now he's opened a Pandora's box of trouble insulting Viv Thomas, who doesn't post here and bringing his family into it. Only hope the Address on the UK census register isn't his.

[DVTimes]

a few days ago damian stated i stole content from him.

yet he has not provided proof.

also i did not even know he has shot content.

he just tells lies to cover up his crimes.

[DVTimes]

Adam please don't go down that route. It's Damian's route.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18483101&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18178754&postcount=24

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18162428&postcount=475

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18152523&postcount=55

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18151408&postcount=52

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18122407&postcount=231

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17914848&postcount=1

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18119790&postcount=189

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19101167&postcount=40

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19101163&postcount=39

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19099951&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104760&postcount=72

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19103044&postcount=74

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104755&postcount=85

Now he's opened a Pandora's box of trouble insulting Viv Thomas, who doesn't post here and bringing his family into it. Only hope the Address on the UK census register isn't his.

he is sick.

[DamianJ]

a few days ago damian stated i stole content from him.

You did.

Content stealing pikey.

Why haven't you got my copyrighted image as your avatar anymore?

Oh yes, because it was deleted by the admins.

Lolsome.

[DamianJ]

he is sick.

says the man who puts a wedding dress on and films himself dancing on the graves of children?

[DVTimes]

says the man who puts a wedding dress on and films himself dancing on the graves of children?

thats another lie.

i have never danced on graves on children.

do you have proof?

you realy are sick.

the only one who should not be near kids is you.

[DamianJ]

thats another lie.

i have never danced on graves on children.

do you have proof?

You posted the video on youtube, you fucking mentalist.

[Barefootsies]

[DVTimes]

You posted the video on youtube, you fucking mentalist.

i posted a vid.

but where are the childrens graves?

in fact were are any graves.

that vid was shot near ilkly moor.

so can you post proof that i danced on graves, are do you admit its a lie.

all you do is lie.

and what content did i steal from you that you said you shot.

lie lie lie

anyway i am off out now.

[Paul Markham]

http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damina.jpg

Me, Eva, Viv. And people think he's great!!!

All from B&B where he can get away with anything and from today and very recently.

[Mike Dutch]

Adam please don't go down that route. It's Damian's route.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18483101&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18178754&postcount=24

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18162428&postcount=475

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18152523&postcount=55

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18151408&postcount=52

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18122407&postcount=231

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17914848&postcount=1

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17423817&postcount=136

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18119790&postcount=189

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19101167&postcount=40

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19101163&postcount=39

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19099951&postcount=15

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104760&postcount=72

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19103044&postcount=74

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19104755&postcount=85

Now he's opened a Pandora's box of trouble insulting Viv Thomas, who doesn't post here and bringing his family into it. Only hope the Address on the UK census register isn't his.

LOL we europeans are indeed very funny! Thanks for the laugh buddy!