Who has the cliff notes on stocktrader23?

[wehateporn]

[porno jew]

Fuck that. Everyone who got ripped off by the little piker needs to do this. Contact Chaturbate and make sure they cut him off as an affiliate. Offer to sell your sites to them for at least 50% of what you paid. Once they start cutting checks, it's probably a good indication that they really did terminate their agreement with the little cunt. We're not talking about a lot of money here, so there's probably a pretty good chance that the sum of the 'reparation' payments will be almost entirely offset by all current and future monies owed to stocktrader. It would be a PR coup and well worth the money in the free advertising. Do it. Don't be pussies.

like they give a fuck. and not like they can go seizing affiliate payouts based upon some shit posted on gfy.

[ottopottomouse]

Just a creative way to get a big downline, nothing I would expect chaturbate to care about. If anything they should be mailing all his pyramid with special one-time-only buy-today-or-miss-out offers as they aren't sales-guff proof at all.

[jimmycooper]

Wow. If they don't care, find a way to make them care.
You guys have allowed yourselves to become conditioned up to the point to where you will just willfully bend over and take it up the ass whenever anyone out there is in need of a warm hole.

[porno jew]

no one gives a fuck a couple third world and russian webmasters got burned by their own greed. who gives a fuck?

stock did more to get chaturbate off the ground affiliate-wise here then they could have ever done. i doubt they are going to fuck around with him over a couple hundred bucks. who cares.

[Mutt]

true - Stocktrader23 i'd say gave Chaturbate at least 10 grand in advertising. I even gave Chaturbate a two week trial on a site and signed up under Stocktrader23, I'd have kept the ads up but i was making .005 per click and that sucks. i hate webcams other than watching crazy MFC girls.

[jimmycooper]

no one gives a fuck a couple third world and russian webmasters got burned by their own greed. who gives a fuck?

stock did more to get chaturbate off the ground affiliate-wise here then they could have ever done. i doubt they are going to fuck around with him over a couple hundred bucks. who cares.

What exactly would the repercussions be if they were to fuck with your boy? It's not like he's some baller or anything.

[porno jew]

What exactly would the repercussions be if they were to fuck with your boy? It's not like he's some baller or anything.

he's not my boy and have called him full of shit on many occasions. i think it's just stupid to go all white knight when even the people burned don't really care.

but go ahead and try it's your life.

[Just Alex]

it is/was a pyramid scheme. you 'buy' a site from stocktrader23. he then turns around and sells your site to the next 'investor' for a profit, and issues you a new site. the 'profit' on the sale is split between stocktrader23 and the seller. your sites also have affiliate links, which make a couple dollars while you wait for the sites to sell.

success of the project depended on getting new 'investors', which he did diligently in the beginning. the first guys that got in did pretty well and their sites sold fast to the next tier of investors. the problem is that he stopped building the pyramid - stopped getting new investors - and the money train ran out of fuel.

i understood the structure and path to revenue from the beginning. the part that wasn't explained was the fact that he would totally drop the project and become unresponsive.

as i said, its little money and i dont care about the loss. im just getting this on record for future searches on this guy. gfy's only value is being a public record for the industry..
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Are you fucking serious? This whole scheme and info domains didn't ring the bell?
And you've been doing on-line biz for how long?

[Dirty F]

Wouldn't it of made more sense to just build sites promoting paysites paying $30/sale or 60% revshare? Looking through that thread, most are reporting only $4-$12 made in the 2 months or so since signing up for it....you could have just had a simple adult site/blog built and with just 1 $30 sale you would have made triple what this concept was paying out. Not to mention people reporting traffic as little as 5 visitors/per site....I've seen terrible thumblogger/sensualwriter blogs make more traffic then that daily.

I asked one the guys who ran this about this. I was amazed they kept pushing Chaturbate with their shitty 1 dollar sales. I really didn't see the point.
I guess they had a reason for it but i still fail to see what reason.
Looking back at my stats i made 6 bucks with Chaturbate. I bet if they sent those 3k+ clicks to any other 35pps program i would've gotten at least 1 sale.

[Dirty F]

Rothstein, hit me up 589703131

[Rothstein]

Rothstein, hit me up 589703131

done and thanks

[GAMEFINEST]

ballin hard

[signupdamnit]

I asked one the guys who ran this about this. I was amazed they kept pushing Chaturbate with their shitty 1 dollar sales. I really didn't see the point.
I guess they had a reason for it but i still fail to see what reason.
Looking back at my stats i made 6 bucks with Chaturbate. I bet if they sent those 3k+ clicks to any other 35pps program i would've gotten at least 1 sale.

Chaturbate was doing very well on the embeds. I was 1:80 premiums on impressions at first. $10-$13 ecpm. With an average site with a 5% ctr and a sponsor with a 1:2000 conversion rate you would need 40,000 impressions to make the first sale which equals out to under $1 ecpm. You can see the difference. I wish I were still seeing that 1:80. Now it's 1:300.

[anexsia]

Chaturbate was doing very well on the embeds. I was 1:80 premiums on impressions at first. $10-$13 ecpm. With an average site with a 5% ctr and a sponsor with a 1:2000 conversion rate you would need 40,000 impressions to make the first sale which equals out to under $1 ecpm. You can see the difference. I wish I were still seeing that 1:80. Now it's 1:300.

I get what you're saying but say if you were converting 1:1000 on a $30 PPS sponsor, if you converted 1:80 on $1 PPS with Chaturbate you would make $12.50 for every 1,000 visitors instead of $30 for every 1,000 visitors...even if you converted 1:40 with Chaturbate it would still be less.

However, I can see the rev share with Chaturbate having the potential to be good.

-edit- nevermind, I see you were talking about impressions and not unique ratio.

[porno jew]

why the hell would you do take a buck per email when you can do revshare?

but you need patience with cams and most people just give up until you get some spenders.

[jimmycooper]

he's not my boy and have called him full of shit on many occasions. i think it's just stupid to go all white knight when even the people burned don't really care.

but go ahead and try it's your life.

I'm not going to go all white knight or anything over something so trivial like this but I just wanted to remind the victims that options other than whining do indeed exist. I guess the lesson of the week is that if someone uses some type of douchebaggy aspirational title or descriptor in their user name, like Stock Trader or Hollywood, don't do business with them.

[plsureking]

and you still took part?

How stupid someone must be to buy into this? I'm thinking Paul Markham level.

Fucking idiots

i've got over 100 open projects with all sorts of people. a $65 bet is pretty small. i gave another project $5k last month. you guys must be clueless or extremely averse to risk to think this was 'stupid'. i've made good money on pyramids before. you just have to get in early enough for the money to multiply. a pyramid only fails when the loser that started the project quits.

no big deal to me. its funny that this amount of money is a big deal to the little squeaking mice of gfy..
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[HardlinkSells]

I paid 25 and I made 43 dollars off of it. I can't complain really.

[porno jew]

now that chaturbate is invite only now the scheme was doomed anyway.

[TubeSubmitters]

This massive scheme made chaturbate go invite only!!! ;)

[DarkJedi]

i've got over 100 open projects with all sorts of people. a $65 bet is pretty small. i gave another project $5k last month. you guys must be clueless or extremely averse to risk to think this was 'stupid'. i've made good money on pyramids before. you just have to get in early enough for the money to multiply. a pyramid only fails when the loser that started the project quits.

no big deal to me. its funny that this amount of money is a big deal to the little squeaking mice of gfy..
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It's not about the money, it's about being a fucking retard to even consider something like this.

[stocktrader23]

I'm around, got linked to the Chaturbate thread and saw this on the front page.

I'm way too busy to check GFY often. One of my mainstream businesses deals with hail damage and there were a billion storms in the last few weeks so I've been balls deep in work lately. Also, as I've told those that write on ICQ etc I put things on autopilot for a bit while an updated script was being written. Purpose being, so that traffic is not 100% direct traffic only and employees can work on building unique content on at least some of your sites for eventual search traffic etc.

The linked thread was a discounted pricing thread, not an update thread. I haven't even looked at it in forever so didn't see everyone grabbing pitch forks. Had this shit storm been brewing in the main section I probably would have seen it like I did today.

Everyone that joined HFA will continue to get traffic etc. I will admit that things have not been optimal. As the number of sites grew the rotation that employees were using stopped working as well. I am addressing this as soon as I get settled into my new office and can look at what issues need to be fixed in the new script now that pay per free is ending. I am also looking into paying the $1 myself and keeping the revshare for those that are interested. Right now about 60% that it will be green lighted, just have to get a partner on board.

tl;dr
I am swamped but shit has been moving in the background the entire time and things will get better. I will be hard to reach for short time as I am not at a computer most of the day but I send instructions to employees every morning.

Cheers

[mrlinky]

I'm around, got linked to the Chaturbate thread and saw this on the front page.

I'm way too busy to check GFY often. One of my mainstream businesses deals with hail damage and there were a billion storms in the last few weeks so I've been balls deep in work lately. Also, as I've told those that write on ICQ etc I put things on autopilot for a bit while an updated script was being written. Purpose being, so that traffic is not 100% direct traffic only and employees can work on building unique content on at least some of your sites for eventual search traffic etc.

The linked thread was a discounted pricing thread, not an update thread. I haven't even looked at it in forever so didn't see everyone grabbing pitch forks. Had this shit storm been brewing in the main section I probably would have seen it like I did today.

Everyone that joined HFA will continue to get traffic etc. I will admit that things have not been optimal. As the number of sites grew the rotation that employees were using stopped working as well. I am addressing this as soon as I get settled into my new office and can look at what issues need to be fixed in the new script now that pay per free is ending. I am also looking into paying the $1 myself and keeping the revshare for those that are interested. Right now about 60% that it will be green lighted, just have to get a partner on board.

tl;dr
I am swamped but shit has been moving in the background the entire time and things will get better. I will be hard to reach for short time as I am not at a computer most of the day but I send instructions to employees every morning.

Cheers

You have sent 72 hits to the site i purchased, The last hit was over 6 week's ago.
Plus you don't respond to email's or ICQ.

[plsureking]

It's not about the money, it's about being a fucking retard to even consider something like this.

no risk, no reward.

there was nothing fundamentally wrong with this investment, especially with the extremely low startup cost. one guy even mentioned he made a 100%+ profit within a month. the problem, as clarified by stocktrader23 below, is that the project was put on hold so that he could focus on other projects.

i dont mind people on this board knowing i lost $65 on a risky investment. at least it shows i'm willing to take risks and invest in adult projects. calling me a "fucking retard" just shows you are a risk-averse pussy. is that how you want to be known?
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[Barefootsies]

I'm around

I'm way too busy to check GFY often. One of my mainstream businesses deals with hail damage and there were a billion storms in the last few weeks so I've been balls deep in work lately.

Cheers

Congrats on your new business fine sire. It sounds like things are going well.

[AllAboutCams]

no risk, no reward.

there was nothing fundamentally wrong with this investment, especially with the extremely low startup cost. one guy even mentioned he made a 100%+ profit within a month. the problem, as clarified by stocktrader23 below, is that the project was put on hold so that he could focus on other projects.

i dont mind people on this board knowing i lost $65 on a risky investment. at least it shows i'm willing to take risks and invest in adult projects. calling me a "fucking retard" just shows you are a risk-averse pussy. is that how you want to be known?
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hay i have some snake oil if your interested

[candyflip]

Congrats on your new business fine sire. It sounds like things are going well.

Where did he say it was new?

[plsureking]

hay i have some snake oil if your interested

if i had a clear path to market, and time to sell it, i'd buy it

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[Eyeball]

no risk, no reward.

there was nothing fundamentally wrong with this investment, especially with the extremely low startup cost. one guy even mentioned he made a 100%+ profit within a month. the problem, as clarified by stocktrader23 below, is that the project was put on hold so that he could focus on other projects.

i dont mind people on this board knowing i lost $65 on a risky investment. at least it shows i'm willing to take risks and invest in adult projects. calling me a "fucking retard" just shows you are a risk-averse pussy. is that how you want to be known?
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I'd call $65 a punt, not a risk.

[Jakez]

but you need patience with cams and most people just give up until you get some spenders.

Hence this thread. How many people yelled scammer again?

[DarkJedi]

no risk, no reward.

there was nothing fundamentally wrong with this investment, especially with the extremely low startup cost. one guy even mentioned he made a 100%+ profit within a month. the problem, as clarified by stocktrader23 below, is that the project was put on hold so that he could focus on other projects.

i dont mind people on this board knowing i lost $65 on a risky investment. at least it shows i'm willing to take risks and invest in adult projects. calling me a "fucking retard" just shows you are a risk-averse pussy. is that how you want to be known?
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just shut the fuck up, baller

[B.Barnato]

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Let me know.

[porno jew]

Hence this thread. How many people yelled scammer again?

pretty sure this scheme was working with everyone using pay per email.

i was just talking about cams in general.

[CyberHustler]

Unfortunate...

[plsureking]

just shut the fuck up, baller

that reply doesn't make you less of a pussy.
it just makes you an ignorant pussy

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[keysync]

Any news?

[Markul]

Yea his hail business is booming like mad crazy and is now branching out in Egypt. You can invest and earn big bucks!!!

[keysync]

OMFG!! Where do I sign up???

[Paper_Amar]

dude - got me for some cash too - reddit scam - Whatever -lesson learned

[Supz]

who has the cliff notes on rothstein

[porno jew]

dude - got me for some cash too - reddit scam - Whatever -lesson learned

details?

[keysync]

dude - got me for some cash too - reddit scam - Whatever -lesson learned

It's ok to share. This is a safe place. Everyone is your friend.

[Rothstein]

who has the cliff notes on rothstein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rothstein

[Supz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Rothstein

You are a legend. Congrats.

[Fenris Wolf]

details?

It had to do with each member of the group setting up their own subreddit and then linking between each other with Stocktrader23 taking the lead and help manage growth.

[alias]

Fucking Jewish mafia strikes again.

[porno jew]

It had to do with each member of the group setting up their own subreddit and then linking between each other with Stocktrader23 taking the lead.

and people were charged for this or what?

[Rothstein]

You are a legend. Congrats.

that's what she said

[Fenris Wolf]

and people were charged for this or what?

It was sold as some great way of using Reddit to generate traffic and the details were not made available until you paid in. If I remember correctly it was no more than $40.