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  • donteattuna
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2007
    • 177
    #251
    Originally posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude
    ...

    If you want to do some good, and get people back on your side, then either sue the bastards that ripped us off and get our money back, or tell us who to sue and how to sue the people that took our hard earned money.

    Whenever I hear the names Daniel Staton, Steve Markley or Gary Spaniak Jr, all I hear is liar, scammer, thief and other less civil words.

    Add Marc Bell of the Bell/Staton Group (later PMGI, Penthouse, and AFF / Adult Friend Finder to that list.



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      • donteattuna
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2007
        • 177
        #252
        Originally posted by shake
        Epoch just paid me out a very large amount of money that had been forgotten about with them years and years ago when we ran paysites - no questions asked. They would be my first choice in choosing a billing co. Thanks Frank!
        in fact i also spoke with frank last year(?) there, and they will be my first choice. anyone hear of verotel? http://www.verotel.com/
        a site I liked had switched over to them, which got my interest.
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          • shimmy2
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2009
            • 3271
            #253
            well nearly everyone lost something when ibill went tits up... i ended up losing my home and had to do all sorts of shitty jobs for the next few years until i bounced back. its spilled milk either way you look at it, all you can do is keep putting out a quality product and people will buy it.

            i will say that ibill did not have any class or scruples when they went under. I lost big time when websitebilling.com went under but at least rick rod. and their staff were understanding and even sent me one last wire transfer like a week after they were out of business. i lost about the same as i did with ibill but at least I didn't feel fucked because they kept me in the loop of wtf was going on with them and visa and isps etc. business is business but please dont lie to people
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              • F-U-Jimmy
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2006
                • 6853
                #254
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                  • F-U-Jimmy
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                    #255
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                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                        • 6853
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                          • Jack Sparrow
                            Almost goners..
                            • May 2008
                            • 11420
                            #257
                            Jimmy, i think bumping one thread is enough ;)

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                              • F-U-Jimmy
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                                • Apr 2006
                                • 6853
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                                  • F-U-Jimmy
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                                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                                          • F-U-Jimmy
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                                              • Cyber Fucker
                                                Hmm
                                                • Sep 2005
                                                • 12642
                                                #262
                                                Originally posted by sharphead
                                                Oh no I would never burn 100 bucks... 100 bucks could save at least one African kid from die of starvation for a whole year... or I could invest it very well and get 10x100 after a few years... or I could buy myself 100 x 1 RedBull on promo right away
                                                Last edited by Cyber Fucker; 09-02-2009, 02:44 PM.

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                                                  • Gordon1
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2009
                                                    • 2523
                                                    #263
                                                    crazy things happend with IBill

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                                                      • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                          • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                              • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                                          • NemesisEnforcer
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                            • 2122
                                                                                            #273
                                                                                            Originally posted by shimmy2
                                                                                            well nearly everyone lost something when ibill went tits up... i ended up losing my home and had to do all sorts of shitty jobs for the next few years until i bounced back. its spilled milk either way you look at it, all you can do is keep putting out a quality product and people will buy it.
                                                                                            I suspect that everyone that was with iBill at the time lost something. Even people with their own merchant account were telling me that iBill wouldn?t give them their customer data so that they could move to another processor.
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                                                                                            Did you ever notice: When you put the 2 words 'The' and 'IRS' together it spells 'Theirs.'

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                                                                                                                      • Matyko
                                                                                                                        PsyHead
                                                                                                                        • Aug 2005
                                                                                                                        • 8681
                                                                                                                        #280
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                                                                                                                                      • Denny
                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                        #284
                                                                                                                                        bump it up

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