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Old 12-19-2008, 03:10 PM   #1
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Serious Matter. Is anyone else being SHAKED down for THOUSANDS by Jupiter Hosting??

Did you host with Jupiter Hosting?
Did you leave?

Are you being shaken down for thousands in doing so?

If so contact me on icq and lets talk in private.

also if anyone here has any of the contact info of the old owners Ray or KC please tell them Id like to talk to them.

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I dont want to take this public but will have to very very soon.
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Ive already talked to some of the other old management.
But id like to talk to you if you were upper management or if you were a past client of theirs (i know there are a lot of you)
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I thought they folded after being sold and changing names...

I did have a server there, and about a week after the sale it was gone, no notice, no email nothing. Just gone.
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I was with Jupiter Hosting for many years.
Never a problem. Always a great host...

I even endorsed them and sent them tons of customers.
It was my unofficial duty to do so. And I did. Without any problem.

In fact they still host here. GFY.
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Did you have a long term contract or something with them?
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I helped build GFY. Some of you may doubt that but I did.

What I am doing here now my just get me banned.

But FUCK THEM..

And FUCK you if you want to sell me out over this.. My days at GFY may be limited if I speak out about this.

So if you want feel free to say your goodbyes to me now.

Fuck you if you think you can just shake ME down.
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I helped build GFY. Some of you may doubt that but I did.

What I am doing here now my just get me banned.

But FUCK THEM..

And FUCK you if you want to sell me out over this.. My days at GFY may be limited if I speak out about this.

So if you want feel free to say your goodbyes to me now.

Fuck you if you think you can just shake ME down.
then speak it, ive never held my tongue here and never been banned...
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I dont think the new owners of GFY and the owners of Jupiter have any ties anymore.

They once did and were all part of the same family. And I was a big part of that family.

some of the owners of GFY owned Jupiter. But now they are owned seprate. So unlike before where you could get banned talking about them, im hoping that is not the case now.

But if it is, and I do get banned I want everyone to remember this thread. And that it was this that pushed me out.
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I dont think the new owners of GFY and the owners of Jupiter have any ties anymore.

They once did and were all part of the same family. And I was a big part of that family.

some of the owners of GFY owned Jupiter. But now they are owned seprate. So unlike before where you could get banned talking about them, im hoping that is not the case now.

But if it is, and I do get banned I want everyone to remember this thread. And that it was this that pushed me out.
tell you what, if you get banned, Ill stop posting here too lol

i rly doubt you will,... we should be able to shit talk a host whenever its necessary,...
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I think we should get Anal Hobbit in on this. He'd know what to do.
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I dont think the new owners of GFY and the owners of Jupiter have any ties anymore.

They once did and were all part of the same family. And I was a big part of that family.

some of the owners of GFY owned Jupiter. But now they are owned seprate. So unlike before where you could get banned talking about them, im hoping that is not the case now.

But if it is, and I do get banned I want everyone to remember this thread. And that it was this that pushed me out.
this almost reads like a suicide note lol.. bump for you
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A lot of shady biz these days. Hope it gets settled. If it'd even possible.
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I left them back in November... Gave notice and left.
I get a december bill along with November. I tell them Ive left again and close everything.. No servers or BW being used..

Then the next month January I get another bill.
Then Feb another. I tell them again. Ive left close and stop billing.

March I get another bill.

Not to mention this is for a 10mpbs P4 server at $696.00 a month
So its adding up. $ 4,649.49 to be exact..

I tell them im not going to pay this. We need to work something out. I have emails and copies of support tickets.

They say not only are you going to pay this, but we are going to charge you a FEE as well!

A $5,000.00 Termination fee.

So you owe us $9,000.00

Im thinking WTF. This is a fucking shakedown.
Shady collection agents call all the time...
I tell them to fuck off and this is not legit.

Now an attorney in my home town is wanting, or I should say threating to take me to court.

I say again, what the fuck?
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I contact Navisite (the new owners of Jupiter) and they have no idea who I am, nor do they care.

I told them helped bring biz to them, always paid my bills on time (for overpriced hosting) and never had problems with the old owners. They were family.

They could care less. Payup..

And payup this fine..


Im trying to get a hold of the old Jupiter people to ask them if there is anything in that contract that would allow them to charge me this fine.. Ive never heard of such a thing.

I was with them for almost 4 years. According to Poppy who I signed the contract with he was not familar with any contracts being long term..

Anyhow even if they were, its 4 years
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I left them back in November... Gave notice and left.
I get a december bill along with November. I tell them Ive left again and close everything.. No servers or BW being used..

Then the next month January I get another bill.
Then Feb another. I tell them again. Ive left close and stop billing.

March I get another bill.

Not to mention this is for a 10mpbs P4 server at $696.00 a month
So its adding up. $ 4,649.49 to be exact..

I tell them im not going to pay this. We need to work something out. I have emails and copies of support tickets.

They say not only are you going to pay this, but we are going to charge you a FEE as well!

A $5,000.00 Termination fee.

So you owe us $9,000.00

Im thinking WTF. This is a fucking shakedown.
Shady collection agents call all the time...
I tell them to fuck off and this is not legit.

Now an attorney in my home town is wanting, or I should say threating to take me to court.

I say again, what the fuck?
Certainly sounds fucked up...

Im sure you tried fucking them in the moving process though, right?

i mean giving them thousands for years inst enough
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That's shady as hell. Sadly that isn't the first time I heard about hosts giving the customers a hard time when it comes to canceling a server.
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I say go to court. Then counter-sue for damages and legal fees.
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I left them back in November... Gave notice and left.
I get a december bill along with November. I tell them Ive left again and close everything.. No servers or BW being used..

Then the next month January I get another bill.
Then Feb another. I tell them again. Ive left close and stop billing.

March I get another bill.

Not to mention this is for a 10mpbs P4 server at $696.00 a month
So its adding up. $ 4,649.49 to be exact..

I tell them im not going to pay this. We need to work something out. I have emails and copies of support tickets.

They say not only are you going to pay this, but we are going to charge you a FEE as well!

A $5,000.00 Termination fee.

So you owe us $9,000.00

Im thinking WTF. This is a fucking shakedown.
Shady collection agents call all the time...
I tell them to fuck off and this is not legit.

Now an attorney in my home town is wanting, or I should say threating to take me to court.

I say again, what the fuck?
Ookay, that is just unbelievable. 5K termination fee? What the hell is a termination fee anyway.
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Im wondering if this "Attorney" that is sending me letters is really an Attorney or just some collection agent playing the shake down game.

Nevertheless he reprensents Navisite/Jupiter so I hold them responsible.
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I say go to court. Then counter-sue for damages and legal fees.
Jesus Christ. I dont need this headache...

This all over miscommunication of shutting down a overpriced server?

I was even willing to pay for 2 months of it. Hell Id be willing to pay for the whole 4 months.. But I really shouldnt. This is a FUCKING SHAKE DOWN..

You cant put it any other way.
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Ookay, that is just unbelievable. 5K termination fee? What the hell is a termination fee anyway.
If ya sign a contract for a year worth of hosting and want out there's a termination fee sometimes. But the fee is in the contract, I doubt they can just make one up. I'm "guessing" Boneprone didn't sign or renew any contract though.
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I contact Navisite (the new owners of Jupiter) and they have no idea who I am, nor do they care.

I told them helped bring biz to them, always paid my bills on time (for overpriced hosting) and never had problems with the old owners. They were family.

They could care less. Payup..

And payup this fine..


Im trying to get a hold of the old Jupiter people to ask them if there is anything in that contract that would allow them to charge me this fine.. Ive never heard of such a thing.

I was with them for almost 4 years. According to Poppy who I signed the contract with he was not familar with any contracts being long term..

Anyhow even if they were, its 4 years

Do you have a copy of your Contract?
I think is still have mine in the email from Poppy!

I looked at my contract, and the length of the contract was for the amount of time put in the blank. 24 Months I also remember just like my phone contract, anytime I changed Anything, like added ram, they would Extend the contract.
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I mean am I out of line here? Tell me I am?


Like I said, I loved Jupiter Hosting. I was family. When they sold unlike many in the adult biz I stayed with them for a while.

They never once said hello, introduced themselves to me or anything. All the old staff was gone. Which is fine. this is a biz.. And I can understand communication issues as well. It was a new company taking over Jupiter, so sure there was probably some communication errors in getting my stuff canceled. When new companies transition all sorts of things can happen. Ill give em the benefit of the doubt.

But month after month of telling them to close my stuff. Bill after bill coming.

And then now the attorneys coming after me.
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If ya sign a contract for a year worth of hosting and want out there's a termination fee sometimes. But the fee is in the contract, I doubt they can just make one up. I'm "guessing" Boneprone didn't sign or renew any contract though.
I didnt renew anything.

i did sign one back in 2003 I think it was. And never looked back.

Till now. So maybe this is what happened?

Is this legit you think?

I talked to poppy. The sales rep that sent me my contract back in 2003, talked to him just now, and he said he has never heard of such thing.

I wish I could get ahold of Ray or KC. They would have a better idea
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Do you have a copy of your Contract?
I think is still have mine in the email from Poppy!

I looked at my contract, and the length of the contract was for the amount of time put in the blank. 24 Months I also remember just like my phone contract, anytime I changed Anything, like added ram, they would Extend the contract.
I dont have my contract still. It was so long ago.
I had no problem paying these rates becasue they were comping me on another server for free to promote them. I just signed it and paid em.

What does the contract say?
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I hope it works out.
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #40
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I didnt renew anything.

i did sign one back in 2003 I think it was. And never looked back.

Till now. So maybe this is what happened?

Is this legit you think?

I talked to poppy. The sales rep that sent me my contract back in 2003, talked to him just now, and he said he has never heard of such thing.

I wish I could get ahold of Ray or KC. They would have a better idea
I would look over the contract or get a copy from someone who signed the same one back then. I doubt there's a 5k termination fee in there, if there's not I doubt they can just charge you whatever fee they want. It's gotta have a time limit too, they can't sign you up for lifetime worth of hosting and then charge you a termination fee when you want out. Sounds like BS to me. You wanted out and told them a long time ago, so you shouldn't have to pay for those months. I'd just get a good lawyer, but he's going to ask for the contract so try to find it and go over it yourself...
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Old 12-19-2008, 03:59 PM   #41
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damn, serious business.

and Lensman is gone.

things sure have changed!
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:02 PM   #42
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I think i have the contract tucked away. far far away. I never throw out shit like this.

let me see if I can find it.

Ill post it.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:04 PM   #43
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hope you get it resolved, sounds like it's gonna be a long fight
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:20 PM   #44
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Ok found the contract.
It was from 2004

Here are some parts i took a screen shot of.




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Old 12-19-2008, 04:22 PM   #45
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Im trying to look all over this document to see where it would say anything about a termination fee and how they could possibly get it to equal $5,000.00
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i dont see a 5k fee lol
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Does anyone have K.C's or Ray's contact?

KC is still in the industry isnt he?
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jscott is getting shaken down by Jupiter/Navisite

it was a piece of shit hosting company even when Lensman had some ownership in it
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