Grapesoda

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/22/s...n-history.html

this: Examining their data separately, all three groups came to the same conclusion: All non-Africans descend from a single migration of early humans from Africa. The estimates from the studies point to an exodus somewhere between 80,000 and 50,000 years.

this: Yet there are also clues that at least some modern humans may have departed Africa well before 50,000 years ago, perhaps part of an earlier wave of migration.
In Israel, for example, researchers found a few distinctively modern human skeletons that are between 120,000 and 90,000 years old. In Saudi Arabia and India, sophisticated tools date back as far as 100,000 years.

Last October, Chinese scientists reported finding teeth belonging to Homo sapiens that are at least 80,000 years old and perhaps as old as 120,000 years.

this: In Papua New Guinea, Dr. Metspalu and his colleagues found, 98 percent of each person’s DNA can be traced to that single migration from Africa. But the other 2 percent seemed to be much older.
Dr. Metspalu concluded that all people in Papua New Guinea carry a trace of DNA from an earlier wave of Africans who left the continent as long as 140,000 years ago, and then vanished.

this: The new research also suggests that the splintering of the human tree began earlier than experts had suspected.
Dr. Reich and his colleagues probed their data for the oldest evidence of human groups genetically separating from one another.
They found that the ancestors of the KhoiSan, hunter-gatherers living today in southern Africa, began to split off from other living humans about 200,000 years ago and were fully isolated by 100,000 years ago. That finding hints that our ancestors already had evolved behaviors seen in living humans, such as language, 200,000 years ago.

and completely MISSING: Both Neanderthals and living humans are thought to have evolved from Homo erectus. In the earliest known migration wave into Eurasia dated to 1.81 million years ago (Ma), Homo erectus left Africa most probably via the Levant and reached Georgia (fossils of Dmanisi). Hominins had reached China by 1.7 Ma[53] and Iberia (Spain) by 1.4 Ma.[54] The discoverers of fragmented bones in Spain (Iberia) dated to 1.2 million years, assigned to a new species Homo antecessor, argue these are the remains of the ancestors of Neanderthals and of the older species Homo heidelbergensis, an interpretation rejected by most anthropologists.

A large number of molecular clock genetic studies place the divergence time of the Neanderthal and modern human lineages between 800,000 and 400,000 years ago.[56][33][57][58][59][60][61][62][63] For this reason, most scholars believe Neanderthals descend, via Homo heidelbergensis, from another Homo erectus migration out of Africa that would have occurred in this time frame. Parts of the Homo erectus population that stayed in Africa would have evolved, perhaps through the intermediate Homo rhodesiensis, into early anatomically modern humans by 200,000 years ago or earlier.
Neanderthal traits are present in Homo heidelbergensis specimens beginning between 600,000 and 350,000 years ago.[64][65][66][67] As of 1998, there is a fossil gap in Europe between 300 and 243 ka (MIS 8); no hominin has ever been dated to this period.[68] Conventionally, therefore, European hominins younger than 243,000 years old are called Neanderthals.[68][69]
The quality of the fossil record greatly increases from 130,000 years ago onwards.[70] Specimens younger than this date make up the bulk of known Neanderthal skeletons and were the first whose anatomy was comprehensively studied. They are known as typical or Classic Neanderthals.[71][72] In morphological studies, the latter term may also be used in a narrower sense for Neanderthals younger than 71,000 years old (MIS 4 and 3).[68]

Svante Pääbo has tested more than 70 Neanderthal specimens. The Neanderthal genome is almost the same size as the human genome and is identical to ours to a level of 99.7% by comparing the accurate order of the nitrogenous bases in the double nucleotide chain.[147] From mtDNA analysis estimates, the two shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago. An article[86] appearing in the journal Nature has calculated they diverged about 516,000 years ago, whereas fossil records show a time of about 400,000 years ago.[148] A 2007 study pushes the point of divergence back to around 800,000 years ago.[149]

Bladewire

Doesn't matter

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Helix

There have been interesting dna findings with the Pacific Islanders.
https://www.sciencealert.com/pacific...-human-species

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Grapesoda

it matters to many people indeed and I'm one of them. your statement is totally incorrect.

Grapesoda

reading about it at the moment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanesians

Bladewire

What's the point? What's the end result? Please explain it to me.

astronaut x

Something racist for sure.

Grapesoda

you concern your self with the negative attributes of humanity: humiliation, scorn, punishment, retribution.

I concern myself with the positive attributes of humanity: knowledge, art, emotional and spiritual health and god.

that being the situation I'm not sure I could explain the point.

I find people achievement to be most glorious and inspiring. heartwarming in fact.

for you, I guess the point would be to find a few relevant facts and use them to bully someone that disagrees with you?

Grapesoda

rinse and repeat, point proven

you concern your self with the negative attributes of humanity: humiliation, scorn, punishment, retribution.

I concern myself with the positive attributes of humanity: knowledge, art, emotional and spiritual health and god.

that being the situation I'm not sure I could explain the point.

I find people achievement to be most glorious and inspiring. heartwarming in fact.

for you, I guess the point would be to find a few relevant facts and use them to bully someone that disagrees with you?

Bladewire

How self righteous of you be lol

I was just asking the cliff notes of your 8,000 word cut & paste post and you throw insults for what? Congrats in projecting your negativity & hate on others

Grapesoda

I stand by what I said and you have actually proven it. there are no cliff notes. it's an ongoing study. here

Neanderthals, Denisovans, and modern humans are all considered to have descended from Homo heidelbergensis[7][8] that appeared around 700,000 years ago in Africa. Fossils have been recovered in Ethiopia, Namibia and South Africa. Between 400,000 and 300,000 years ago a group of Homo heidelbergensis migrated into Europe and West Asia via yet unknown routes and eventually evolved into Neanderthals. Archaeological sites exist in Spain, Italy, France, England, Germany, Hungary and Greece.[9] Another Homo heidelbergensis group ventured eastwards into continental Asia and evolved into Denisovans. The Homo heidelbergensis (Homo rhodesiensis) population that remained in Africa evolved into anatomically modern humans between 300,000 to 200,000 years ago, then migrated into Europe and Asia in a second wave at some point between 125,000 and 60,000 years ago.[10][11][12][13][14]

Bladewire

I can't read all that science just talk normal to me

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sarettah

He is saying that the studies he is referencing have determined that we are all black, some are just blacker than others.

Embrace your inner African

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Bladewire

Oh ok cool thanks for the breakdown Sarettah 😋

bronco67

So enlightened. This is coming from the guy who made a thread suggesting exploiting desperate homeless people.

and you can bet this thread exists for some racist reason.

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Grapesoda

Grapesoda

hey! thanks for introducing negative assumptions!

Grapesoda

the point/end result is I enjoy the knowledge and I enjoy piecing the oddly relevant bit of knowledge together in interesting ways to produce interesting thoughts. one interesting thought leads to other interesting thoughts. do you understand?

you do NOT share this interest of mine, just as I lack interest in your pursuit of political shame...

do feel 'explained' now?

and I wondered with the 'out of Africa' put at 50k years ago, then where in the fuck did the Neanderthals, Denisovans come from????? that's more important to me than bruce jeners or donald trumps dicks...

do you understand?

bronco67

You couldn't produce an interesting thought in a lab.

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Grapesoda

weak, very weak

BaldBastard

Hate to break it to you but your 99.99% nigga genes and unless you have some central Asian genes in you.. you have a lower IQ capacity than half the planet.

dumb whities.. you have already been out bred.

Grapesoda

hey! thanks for introducing negative assumptions!