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Old 06-03-2017, 04:42 PM   #1
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Exoclick redirecting website via ads

I use exoclick and on mobile and it's redirecting my whole fucking site and i only have a 300x250 ads on the site. This isn't exo's fault but the people who buy the ads are deliberately redirecting their ads.

How can you identify something like this happening on your site?
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:09 PM   #2
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fuck them in the ass!!! Fuck exoclick right in the mother fucking ass!!!
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:11 PM   #3
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:22 PM   #4
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I use exoclick and on mobile and it's redirecting my whole fucking site and i only have a 300x250 ads on the site. This isn't exo's fault but the people who buy the ads are deliberately redirecting their ads.

How can you identify something like this happening on your site?
Sounds like a good idea. Probably some traffic arbitrage. Where are they sending the traffic, another network? Anybody got code samples to bust out of the exoclick iframes?

Any exoclick people here? I would like to send traffic to my youtube video of me playing with my fidget spinner.
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Old 06-03-2017, 11:22 PM   #5
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We suspect this for a long time.
Since we got this information over and over again from visitors but we never caught them.

There are huge traffic leaks if you compare server, cloudflare and webstats
with the exoclick publisher results.
Especially since they are back on xhamster.

Exoclick Support declines that.

Alone the fact that exoclick runs a second network
https://main.exosrv.com to serve tna and xhamster
and that they still run the popup campaigns of the Ramnit spreader tuberl.com

Take this company far from it what they indicate and explain on their homepage:

TRANSPARENT SELFSERVING INDEPENDENT

There are some newer reports out here that Juicy Ads did the same.

Best Regards
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Old 06-04-2017, 03:13 AM   #6
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something different but little similar going on juicyads , in case i placed an ad and i went to see this spot on publisher website ,once banner load its auto redirect me to another site like loop even if i did not click (not the actual offer)... i assume they don't want some geos to reach the destination. from here the stats will not be same so reserving 100% t1/t2 will count only .
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Old 06-04-2017, 06:19 PM   #7
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I use exoclick and on mobile and it's redirecting my whole fucking site and i only have a 300x250 ads on the site. This isn't exo's fault but the people who buy the ads are deliberately redirecting their ads.

How can you identify something like this happening on your site?
Compare your analytics stats with and without there codes over a longer time.
Otherwise its hard to found things like that because its not possible to
control all carrier and isps world wide.

Here are some of the other threads:
https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/ge...icyads.899473/
https://forums.digitalpoint.com/thre...users.2803422/

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Old 06-04-2017, 11:38 PM   #8
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This happened on a client's site. Rather large site, and it was only redirecting certain countries when accessed via a mobile device. It redirected the whole site through a chain of redirects to various locations. He reported it to them, and it stopped.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:27 AM   #9
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This happened on a client's site. Rather large site, and it was only redirecting certain countries when accessed via a mobile device. It redirected the whole site through a chain of redirects to various locations. He reported it to them, and it stopped.

What happens on a client's site the mobile redirects or the ramnit injections?

And you know that from?

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Old 06-05-2017, 04:16 AM   #10
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I use exoclick and on mobile and it's redirecting my whole fucking site and i only have a 300x250 ads on the site. This isn't exo's fault but the people who buy the ads are deliberately redirecting their ads.

How can you identify something like this happening on your site?
These fucking traffic sellers are nothing short of thieves. They will scam, steal, send you fake stats, anything to make just a few dollars from each advertiser.

Juicy Ads, Exo, Traffic Shop, Traffic Holder, Plug Rush, ALL FUCKING THIEVES.

I've tested every single one of them and found huge problems and bots in each one.

Most notably, Juicy sends blind skim traffic to your banners. You think you're getting a live fresh click? Think again. Just test it yourself. Remove your banner, and insert a blank, and you'll still get lots of traffic. Fake traffic, that is. But don't complain too much, your account will get deleted and you won't be able to buy anymore fake banner traffic.

Traffic Shop? Pure bots. 95% of their traffic isn't even real. (in Netherlands, but owners in Russia)
If you are a Traffic Shop user, just delete this site from your line up: 'alsoporn.com' and watch what happens to the available traffic. It will reduce by almost 75%. Which means, 75% of all their traffic comes from one website. One, easily controlled and bot'd out website. It's fucking hilarious they get away with it. Of their 300+ website line up, over half have no banners at all. Just fake sites.

Exo and Traffic Shop, are the Kings and Queens of fake bidding and click inflation. These brokers are so fucking smart, they get people bidding on fake traffic. The more it goes up, the more people want it and think it's real.

Plug Rush 99% fake bots, all repeating IP's. Picked them out in one day.

Traffic Holder? those Russian fuck heads really know how to scam you with their fake pop ups and redirected IPs. The pop up impressions come from Asia and are redirected thru their network.

With all of these brokers, you will get the same response every time when you show them data on bots, etc... you get: "We are so sorry, we are working hard to remove bots from our system, but some do get thru... we thank you for bringing it to our attention."
Most of the sites in their networks are "their sites" to begin with. You think they don't know about the bots?? They are the ones that programmed these sites to begin with!!!

Except for Traffic Shop, their customer service will respond like this: "Sorry, our website is a 'self service' site, and we don't have a customer service department' . That's if your lucky to even get a reply.

There is no regulations on traffic and anything goes.

And for those of you that insist on saying things like "oh, the traffic is real, they wouldn't be in business if it was fake, nobody would buy and re buy it."
I say you are wrong.

Traffic broker's businesses are based purely on rotating new advertisers, milking them, then moving on to the next fish.

There is a huge market of new webmasters, one born every second, and all of them at one time or another will purchase traffic because their website is 'original' and 'special' and the owners knows he will make money with it. That chump will whip out big bucks, buy a lot of fake traffic and get wiped out in a matter of months. He'll blame his failed business on the fact that porn is free, and nobody is buying. What he doesn't understand is, nobody has seen his site to begin with.

The traffic broker makes his profit on bot traffic, and the webmaster closes shop. But not to worry, there is another fish where he came from and the cycle repeats over and over again.

Some of the brokers are really smart, they rotate the skim, with the real traffic to fool even the most analytical of advertisers.

Now that these brokers know how to send blind skim and bot traffic to your banners, they are cleaning up like you have no idea. They are selling clicks and numbers on a screen while picking your pocket clean.

I can't believe they are still in business. I can't believe there isn't a hungry lawyer out there willing to slap a heavy class action suit against these fucking online crooks.

It's the wild west and anything goes.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:57 AM   #11
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These fucking traffic sellers are nothing short of thieves. They will scam, steal, send you fake stats, anything to make just a few dollars from each advertiser.

Juicy Ads, Exo, Traffic Shop, Traffic Holder, Plug Rush, ALL FUCKING THIEVES.

I've tested every single one of them and found huge problems and bots in each one.

Most notably, Juicy sends blind skim traffic to your banners. You think you're getting a live fresh click? Think again. Just test it yourself. Remove your banner, and insert a blank, and you'll still get lots of traffic. Fake traffic, that is. But don't complain too much, your account will get deleted and you won't be able to buy anymore fake banner traffic.

Traffic Shop? Pure bots. 95% of their traffic isn't even real. (in Netherlands, but owners in Russia)
If you are a Traffic Shop user, just delete this site from your line up: 'alsoporn.com' and watch what happens to the available traffic. It will reduce by almost 75%. Which means, 75% of all their traffic comes from one website. One, easily controlled and bot'd out website. It's fucking hilarious they get away with it. Of their 300+ website line up, over half have no banners at all. Just fake sites.

Exo and Traffic Shop, are the Kings and Queens of fake bidding and click inflation. These brokers are so fucking smart, they get people bidding on fake traffic. The more it goes up, the more people want it and think it's real.

Plug Rush 99% fake bots, all repeating IP's. Picked them out in one day.

Traffic Holder? those Russian fuck heads really know how to scam you with their fake pop ups and redirected IPs. The pop up impressions come from Asia and are redirected thru their network.

With all of these brokers, you will get the same response every time when you show them data on bots, etc... you get: "We are so sorry, we are working hard to remove bots from our system, but some do get thru... we thank you for bringing it to our attention."
Most of the sites in their networks are "their sites" to begin with. You think they don't know about the bots?? They are the ones that programmed these sites to begin with!!!

Except for Traffic Shop, their customer service will respond like this: "Sorry, our website is a 'self service' site, and we don't have a customer service department' . That's if your lucky to even get a reply.

There is no regulations on traffic and anything goes.

And for those of you that insist on saying things like "oh, the traffic is real, they wouldn't be in business if it was fake, nobody would buy and re buy it."
I say you are wrong.

Traffic broker's businesses are based purely on rotating new advertisers, milking them, then moving on to the next fish.

There is a huge market of new webmasters, one born every second, and all of them at one time or another will purchase traffic because their website is 'original' and 'special' and the owners knows he will make money with it. That chump will whip out big bucks, buy a lot of fake traffic and get wiped out in a matter of months. He'll blame his failed business on the fact that porn is free, and nobody is buying. What he doesn't understand is, nobody has seen his site to begin with.

The traffic broker makes his profit on bot traffic, and the webmaster closes shop. But not to worry, there is another fish where he came from and the cycle repeats over and over again.

Some of the brokers are really smart, they rotate the skim, with the real traffic to fool even the most analytical of advertisers.

Now that these brokers know how to send blind skim and bot traffic to your banners, they are cleaning up like you have no idea. They are selling clicks and numbers on a screen while picking your pocket clean.

I can't believe they are still in business. I can't believe there isn't a hungry lawyer out there willing to slap a heavy class action suit against these fucking online crooks.

It's the wild west and anything goes.
This story doubled the profits in recent years for some guys
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:08 AM   #12
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I read in a few forums about publishers that got penalties from google after exoclick did mobile redirect on their sites.
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