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Old 05-09-2017, 07:46 AM   #1
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With Bitcoin at 1700, still no money to be made mining?

Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?
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Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?

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Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?
your best bet is, buying bitcoin when its price is low.

difficulty is keeps on increasing .
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difficulty is keeps on increasing .
The British invented ฿ritcoin?

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I have free power here there and everywhere
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why would cloud mining companies let you mine instead of mining for themselves...selling money for money is kind of odd...
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why would cloud mining companies let you mine instead of mining for themselves...selling money for money is kind of odd...
Shovel makers make more money than those who shovel.
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Last summer, bitcoin's annual rate of supply creation was halved. This was an automatic process, written into bitcoin's code when it was invented in 2008 to reduce the rate of supply every few years to prevent inflation.

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Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?
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An apt comparison
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Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?
There are other similar currencies with a similar perspective.
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you aren't going to make any $$ unless the price of bitcoins continues to rise, but then it would be 10x easier to just buy bitcoins instead fiddling with some mining...

just think about it... what idiot would lease a miner to you so you could make profit off it, instead of him?
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A friend has 2 miners, is only profitable if you have cheap or free electricity.
He bought 2 miners, took 4 months to get the investment back. But on free electricity.
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Any expert with Bitcoin mining? At $1700 I can't believe this can't be profitable?

I don't feel like buying hardware, I see genesis mining as been around for a while for cloud mining. If I buy their Diamond Plan at $1950+maintenance for bitcoin, how much money am I suppose to make? I see I'm suppose to find a bitcoin every 138 day?
You won't make anything by mining from home. But you can make good profit by playing the market (buy/sell).
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I have bots constantly scalping the exchanges with python. I also post on bitcointalk.org/btc-e and I know how to clone coins. It's easy to fuck up and lose all your shit in bitcoin or any coin for that matter. The profit levels are astronomical however. I have been engaged to crypto for 8 years. Bitcoin/Litecoin in particular. Ask me stuff and see for yourself.
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A friend has 2 miners, is only profitable if you have cheap or free electricity.
He bought 2 miners, took 4 months to get the investment back. But on free electricity.
how many btc he mined ?
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how many btc he mined ?
Only 1 so far He was curious about mining so he bought 2 miners.
Looked at the electricity prices in some cheap countries, still too expensive.

But now it is all profit, free electricity. He has a electicity meter that shows how much electricity is used for what cost.
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Difficulty is too hard to mine BTC. Most the remaining BTC will be mined by giant Chinese mining farms. Just buy and hold. If you want to pay a mining company like Genisis or Hashflare, then buy a contract for Eth, Dash or Zcash. They are currently profitable. I have been mining Zcash myself just for shits and giggles. I am actually making money and paying my electrical bill because the price is so high. But that is more luck than smarts.
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My old man mines various altcoins and makes a profit, nothing worth the time you'd spend doing it but it keeps him active and he hates paying gas bills so it heated his house for the winter ^_^
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why would cloud mining companies let you mine instead of mining for themselves...selling money for money is kind of odd...
I seem to recall that some cloud mining companies were an outright ponzi scheme, with very few (or zero) physical assets, and 'rent' being used to pay out earnings.

If it's a genuine mining operation, the monthly cost should stay the same, but the payouts should be increasing substantially.
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My old man mines various altcoins and makes a profit, nothing worth the time you'd spend doing it but it keeps him active and he hates paying gas bills so it heated his house for the winter ^_^
I've been using custom private pool software to mine several obscure altcoins with a very modest hashrate (which is deliberate). Each individual coin is generally worth very little, but the balance of each builds over time, and the recent sudden rise in BTC value means it's now worth spending a couple of hours to deposit and sell them off.

Spending $20 in electricity to make $300 in Bitcoins is nice, but it's a slow and laid back process, and it doesn't scale... it's really just for geeky fun, with the occasional windfall.
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Spending $20 in electricity to make $300 in Bitcoins is nice, but it's a slow and laid back process, and it doesn't scale... it's really just for geeky fun, with the occasional windfall.
what's preventing it from scaling? not enough liquidity to sell these obscure coins?
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what's preventing it from scaling? not enough liquidity to sell these obscure coins?
That's part of the problem, but it's also a bit more work to add an obscure coin. It can be hard to find current source code, active nodes, and sometimes once you fully sync it turns out the state of the blockchain (eg mining rewards, difficulty) isn't what you expected. Some of the older coins with larger blockchains and 'stale' source can also end up being real resource hogs. Running 40+ coin daemons concurrently does present some challenges.
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Hmm dunno, as a miner I've been converting my play money to Australian dollars for 6 years now.......
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What is the safest way to buy, sell and hold BTC or any ALT coin? Don't know much about the process or who's a reputable service provider. I've heard of coinbase and changelly so far.
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I have bots constantly scalping the exchanges with python. I also post on bitcointalk.org/btc-e and I know how to clone coins. It's easy to fuck up and lose all your shit in bitcoin or any coin for that matter. The profit levels are astronomical however. I have been engaged to crypto for 8 years. Bitcoin/Litecoin in particular. Ask me stuff and see for yourself.
What is the safest way to buy, sell and hold BTC or any ALT coin? Don't know much about the process or who's a reputable service provider. I've heard of coinbase and changelly so far.
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I have had no problems with coinbase

I linked to my scottrade banking account. Transfer off to multibit or electrum if you want to do spend them though. I have heard they will cancel your account at the drop of a hat if they see you transferring too much or to a casino.
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I have bots constantly scalping the exchanges with python. I also post on bitcointalk.org/btc-e and I know how to clone coins. It's easy to fuck up and lose all your shit in bitcoin or any coin for that matter. The profit levels are astronomical however. I have been engaged to crypto for 8 years. Bitcoin/Litecoin in particular. Ask me stuff and see for yourself.
Under what name can I find you on bitcointalk? I sure would like to ask you as stuff or two!
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I have bots constantly scalping the exchanges with python. I also post on bitcointalk.org/btc-e and I know how to clone coins. It's easy to fuck up and lose all your shit in bitcoin or any coin for that matter. The profit levels are astronomical however. I have been engaged to crypto for 8 years. Bitcoin/Litecoin in particular. Ask me stuff and see for yourself.
Scalping the exchanges with python?
Knows how to clone coins?
Lose all your shit in bitcoin?
Engaged to crypto for 8 years?

You are definitely the digital dandy.
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Relic obviously has no idea about bitcoin lol

you have to be absolutely dumb as shit to have lost or "almost lost" anything/everything at this point

your posts on this subject are nothing short of just.... funny
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No one should be discouraged about buying BTC just because the price is $1800. This is still a ground floor opportunity. If anyone remembers, I was taking some knocks from some shrub when I was buying at $600. I started buying at less than $200 and have been buying ever since. Dollar cost averaging. Don't get your crypto advice from the nimrods of GFY.

There are a few webmasters here with serious crpto knowledge, but only a few. The rest are investing in Monopoly money.
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