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  • XSAXS
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2004
    • 652
    #1

    Business WARNING: For anyone thinking about using Cambuilder Whitelabels...

    Couple of weeks ago I decided to test the new CamBuilder.com Whitelabels. Setup was fine, the sites looked good, and I started sending through a trickle of traffic. Made a few sales. All was going fine.

    And then I received this email:


    tl;dr -- If I want to get paid, I have to transfer complete ownership of my domains to Cambuilder or jump down to a much less attractive payout program.

    What in the fucking fuck!?

    This bullshit is definitively NOT covered in their TOS or FAQ. It is never made clear until after the affiliate has jumped through all the hurdles to setup the WLs and has started making sales.

    Beware.
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    • TheSquealer
      Mayor of Thneedville
      • Oct 2004
      • 26176
      #2
      It's required for credit card processing and a practice that is supposed to be followed by al as per the requirements of Visa and MC. Welcome to the interwebs
      .
      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

      Rochard

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        • XSAXS
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2004
          • 652
          #3
          Originally posted by TheSquealer
          It's required for credit card processing and a practice that is supposed to be followed by al as per the requirements of Visa and MC. Welcome to the interwebs
          Incorrect. Domain contacts? Yes. Actual ownership of the domain? No.

          If you were correct, then they'd have to abide by that rule for ALL their payout programs. Revshare wouldn't be exempt.

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            • TheSquealer
              Mayor of Thneedville
              • Oct 2004
              • 26176
              #4
              You're right. Visa and MC really just want people to play games to mask domain ownership. They are really dumb like that.
              .
              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

              Rochard

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                • nm_
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2011
                  • 328
                  #5
                  sucks, this should have been explained to you before the domain was even approved as aWL. the only program eligible w/o transferring ownership is revshare unfortunately ;[

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                    • 2MuchMark
                      Mark of 2Much.net
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 50982
                      #6
                      NEVER transfer your domain name to anyone else. Try to think long-term. One day your business may become successful and you may want to sell it. If you don't own your domain name, and if you don't own your data, or customers, or content, you won't have much to sell.

                      If you want to sign up with a program and you see that transferring your domain to them, even for a short term is a requirement, don't do it.

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                        • XSAXS
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 652
                          #7
                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                          You're right. Visa and MC really just want people to play games to mask domain ownership. They are really dumb like that.
                          Just shut the fuck up, you diseased twat.

                          As I said earlier...
                          if you were correct...
                          if it truly was a requirement laid out by V and MC...
                          Then the rule would ALSO apply to the Revshare payout model!

                          What a fucking idiot. Fuck.

                          The truth is, CamBuilder seems to be making up the rules as they go. They promise all these great new programs and then fuck you over if do anything other than Revshare.

                          There's no fucking WAY I would surrender my domains to them, and I hope this thread will help other webmasters avoid such a mistake.

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                            • TheSquealer
                              Mayor of Thneedville
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26176
                              #8
                              I know quite well what the rules were when I had a few high risk merchant accounts and was processing cams. If you're not an IPSP, you have to own the domains, you can't process for others for domains you don't own. The extent to which others follow the rules to the letter, is on them. People not following the rules to the letter or picking and choosing how they will comply, doesn't mean the rules don't exist.

                              Calling me names because you are naive and angry with someone else, doesn't make you any more correct.... or any less foolish
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                                • Honest-trafficker
                                  Registered User
                                  • Apr 2015
                                  • 54
                                  #9
                                  This is Bulshit! They think people are stupid. Domain name ownership is the most important thing.

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                                    • XSAXS
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2004
                                      • 652
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Honest-trafficker
                                      This is Bulshit! They think people are stupid. Domain name ownership is the most important thing.
                                      Pretty much my thoughts exactly. If something goes wrong with the sponsor in a few years -- or a few weeks -- the domain is gone forever.

                                      Pure bullshit.

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                                        • Panty Snatcher
                                          eat a peach for Hours
                                          • Aug 2013
                                          • 540
                                          #11
                                          I asked for additional info


                                          You need to fully transfer the domain. When you promote a program such as Per Join or Per Spender, or a combination of those and revshare, the payments you receive are an advance of spending that takes 6-14 months to mature.

                                          If we do not fully own the domain then you could promote us for one month and receive advance funds then move the domain away from us. Most of the advance payments we paid you in that situation would be a complete loss for Cambuilder.

                                          cambuilder.com Support
                                          [email protected]

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                                            • XSAXS
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 652
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Panty Snatcher
                                              I asked for additional info


                                              You need to fully transfer the domain. When you promote a program such as Per Join or Per Spender, or a combination of those and revshare, the payments you receive are an advance of spending that takes 6-14 months to mature.

                                              If we do not fully own the domain then you could promote us for one month and receive advance funds then move the domain away from us. Most of the advance payments we paid you in that situation would be a complete loss for Cambuilder.

                                              cambuilder.com Support
                                              [email protected]
                                              Fine. Sounds reasonable. But all of that should be disclosed BEFORE the affiliate signs up, sends traffic, and begins making sales.

                                              To wait until after sales are made is sleazy as hell. Because at that point the affiliate has to decide... do I want to surrender my domain(s) or do I want to get paid.

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                                                • xXXtesy10
                                                  Fakecoin Investor
                                                  • Jul 2012
                                                  • 7127
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by XSAXS
                                                  Couple of weeks ago I decided to test the new CamBuilder.com Whitelabels. Setup was fine, the sites looked good, and I started sending through a trickle of traffic. Made a few sales. All was going fine.

                                                  And then I received this email:


                                                  tl;dr -- If I want to get paid, I have to transfer complete ownership of my domains to Cambuilder or jump down to a much less attractive payout program.

                                                  What in the fucking fuck!?

                                                  This bullshit is definitively NOT covered in their TOS or FAQ. It is never made clear until after the affiliate has jumped through all the hurdles to setup the WLs and has started making sales.

                                                  Beware.
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                                                    • adultchatpay
                                                      Let's Make Money
                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                      • 8785
                                                      #14
                                                      I won't even do that. That's out of this world.

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                                                        • AdultKing
                                                          Raise Your Weapon
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 15601
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by XSAXS
                                                          Just shut the fuck up, you diseased twat. .
                                                          You'd probably get a lot further in life if you didn't attack everyone who was trying to provide you with useful information relevant to the post you made.

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                                                            • Matyko
                                                              PsyHead
                                                              • Aug 2005
                                                              • 8681
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                              It's required for credit card processing and a practice that is supposed to be followed by al as per the requirements of Visa and MC. Welcome to the interwebs
                                                              +1 no worries they are good people. I just had to set a few things in my whois info, did not have to hand over the site. I am on 30% revshare though, and would Happily hand over my domain to have a significant bump in the payment structure!!!
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                                                                • NewNick
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Mar 2009
                                                                  • 7229
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                  It's required for credit card processing and a practice that is supposed to be followed by al as per the requirements of Visa and MC. Welcome to the interwebs
                                                                  Correct.
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                                                                    • Mr Pheer
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 22083
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I had setup a whitelabel there as well, and then they hit me with that transfer my domain to them bullshit. Not happening. That domain is 12 years old, I'm not transferring it to anyone.

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                                                                        • robwod
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2005
                                                                          • 2540
                                                                          #19
                                                                          I'm assuming this has everything to do with PPS and PPL only? I always do revshare on cams as it's simply more lucrative long term (for us). And the only thing they needed was just what Streamate always requires, a change in the public whois info, not actual transfer ownership of domain.

                                                                          Interesting though if they require full ownership -- as in actual transfer of ownership for PPS.
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                                                                            • Andreweb
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Mar 2013
                                                                              • 2431
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I switched one of my domains to revshare and I kept the domain to me ! Problem solved and 35% revshare is pretty good !
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                                                                                • XSAXS
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 652
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by robwod
                                                                                  I'm assuming this has everything to do with PPS and PPL only? I always do revshare on cams as it's simply more lucrative long term (for us). And the only thing they needed was just what Streamate always requires, a change in the public whois info, not actual transfer ownership of domain.

                                                                                  Interesting though if they require full ownership -- as in actual transfer of ownership for PPS.
                                                                                  Yeah PPS and PPS Hybrids only... Cambuilder has all these killer new payout schemes (e.g. $75pps + 30% Lifetime Rev). Sounded a little too good to be true, but it's Streamate -- so I figured it must be legit. WRONG!

                                                                                  They never disclosed that I would be required to GIVE THEM MY DOMAINS -- before I could be paid -- until AFTER I already started sending them sales.

                                                                                  I've been around for a long time. I've worked with dozens of sponsors and WLs, and I've never heard of any program requiring that you surrender your domains to them.

                                                                                  I don't know why, but I'm stunned that more people on this board aren't outraged by this sort of bald-faced thievery. ...comfortably numb, I guess.

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                                                                                    • sandman!
                                                                                      Icq: 14420613
                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                      • 15431
                                                                                      #22
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                                                                                        • Bladewire
                                                                                          StraightBro
                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                          • 56228
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by XSAXS
                                                                                          Yeah PPS and PPS Hybrids only... Cambuilder has all these killer new payout schemes (e.g. $75pps + 30% Lifetime Rev). Sounded a little too good to be true, but it's Streamate -- so I figured it must be legit. WRONG!

                                                                                          They never disclosed that I would be required to GIVE THEM MY DOMAINS -- before I could be paid -- until AFTER I already started sending them sales.

                                                                                          I've been around for a long time. I've worked with dozens of sponsors and WLs, and I've never heard of any program requiring that you surrender your domains to them.

                                                                                          I don't know why, but I'm stunned that more people on this board aren't outraged by this sort of bald-faced thievery. ...comfortably numb, I guess.
                                                                                          I don't know all the facts but if what you say is true then:

                                                                                          1) Their business model is not sustainable

                                                                                          2) They are acting out of fear by taking domains permanently, instead of doing a 6 month lease for new affiliates (or SOMETHING TEMPORARY).

                                                                                          3) To get new business they purposely don't fully disclose their intentions to take your domain.

                                                                                          I don't care if you live in Russia China Thailand Vietnam or anywhere the fuck else. If you enter an agreement with a company they should abide by that no matter where you are and no matter where they are.

                                                                                          Anyone who brings traffic has value. This Mickey Mouse bullshit depending on where someone lives, and what you can get away with, is old school fucked bulshit.


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                                                                                            • Bladewire
                                                                                              StraightBro
                                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                                              • 56228
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Matyko
                                                                                              +1 no worries they are good people. I just had to set a few things in my whois info, did not have to hand over the site. I am on 30% revshare though, and would Happily hand over my domain to have a significant bump in the payment structure!!!
                                                                                              What agreement do you sign and what exactly do you have to change?

                                                                                              I really like the look and feel of what these guys are doing. Their site looks great and their business model looks great, but the only negative they have against them is not fully disclosing to affiliates what exactly is expected, and that is not ok, if that is in fact true.


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                                                                                                • Diomed
                                                                                                  Converting like it's 1999
                                                                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                                                                  • 6167
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Any word if that stands for just PPS too?

                                                                                                  I'm guessing so.. Regardless, the payout structure is interesting.. But I've never liked stream mate as a main sponsor.. Only as a backup.
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                                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Dec 2011
                                                                                                      • 26732
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      this is normal for SM ppc it has been this way for white labels for years...if you do not want to transfer your domain then go and revshare...if you know how to promote you will get more money out of revshare anyway...

                                                                                                      so many people in this thread that pretend like they do not understand the reason why...go promote bonga cams or something and good luck with that LOL...it is clearly stated when you set up your WL that you need to transfer the domain if you do not want revshare...I guess some are too lazy to read...

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                                                                                                        • Bladewire
                                                                                                          StraightBro
                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                                                          • 56228
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                          this is normal for SM ppc it has been this way for white labels for years...if you do not want to transfer your domain then go and revshare...if you know how to promote you will get more money out of revshare anyway...

                                                                                                          so many people in this thread that pretend like they do not understand the reason why...go promote bonga cams or something and good luck with that LOL...it is clearly stated when you set up your WL that you need to transfer the domain if you do not want revshare...I guess some are too lazy to read...

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                                                                                                            • ruff
                                                                                                              I have a plan B
                                                                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                                                                              • 5507
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Streamate and Cambuilder are the best on the market in my opinion. You read the terms and conditions and act accordingly. This is how they do business, upfront and transparent. They have never ripped a domain. Go revshare or go elsewhere, what does pissing and moaning get you? Like any good quality company, they are trying to increase their business and provide an opportunity for affiliates to make long term money for both. They are not throwing up roadblocks to decrease their business or lower their income or steal your precious domain. Get real.
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                                                                                                                • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                  • 6697
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  So for the people saying they are "good peepz" are you going to personally guarantee that they will never steal anyone's domain and will you be willing to cover everyone's risk? Are you willing to sign a contract saying you will guarantee no one will have issues and pay out at your expense? No?! Gee then I guess your words are about as good as anyone who pulled the same "good peepz" shit with epassporte or one of the hundreds of others of sponsors or services in adult who has fucked people. Funny how that works.

                                                                                                                  The other issue with this is if you allow it then all your sponsors might start pulling this bullshit. That will be fun. Instead of it being them just not paying you they will steal your domain too after you build it up for three years. Sounds like a lot of fun!

                                                                                                                  Because sponsors in adult have such a great record of being trustworthy and all, right?

                                                                                                                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                    • ruff
                                                                                                                      I have a plan B
                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                      • 5507
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                                                                                      So for the people saying they are "good peepz" are you going to personally guarantee that they will never steal anyone's domain and will you be willing to cover everyone's risk? Are you willing to sign a contract saying you will guarantee no one will have issues and pay out at your expense? No?! Gee then I guess your words are about as good as anyone who pulled the same "good peepz" shit with epassporte or one of the hundreds of others of sponsors or services in adult who has fucked people. Funny how that works.

                                                                                                                      The other issue with this is if you allow it then all your sponsors might start pulling this bullshit. That will be fun. Instead of it being them just not paying you they will steal your domain too after you build it up for three years. Sounds like a lot of fun!

                                                                                                                      Because sponsors in adult have such a great record of being trustworthy and all, right?
                                                                                                                      You are way off base here. The company talked about is Streamate, a very reputable company. Any company confiscating a domain is going to lose their affiliates. The domain issue is only about a choice of payouts. No one is forced to do anything. Besides, it is generally accepted that the best payout in cams is revshare. If a company wanted you to sign over your domain for all options, no one would do it, would they?

                                                                                                                      There are plenty of alternative cam companies out there to do business with. I doubt all or even any sponsors would choose to require ownership of a domain if they did not have too. Most domains are worthless without a good webmaster behind them. There are plenty of thieves in adult guaranteed. A lot right here on this board. They're the ones most don't know about, but some of us do. Crying about it doesn't do shit. Predicting it's going to happen doesn't do shit either. This is just some more crapola designed to put another good company in the barrel and on the defensive. Fucking chicken little shit.
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                                                                                                                        • Va2k
                                                                                                                          I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                          • 10060
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          WOW I now have heard it all! NEVER EVER EVER give someone your domain name! If they want to be like that, move on find someone else. Simple as that. I can understand if they would want you to list them under your contacts but to transfer owner ship of your domain name to them?

                                                                                                                          Dude I got a bridge for sell name golden gate, if you or anyone does anything like what they are asking, you deserve what ever fallout happens. Sorry but you don't see mainstream sites or other big adult websites doing this? Screw them.

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                                                                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                                                                              • 6697
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Panty Snatcher
                                                                                                                              I asked for additional info


                                                                                                                              You need to fully transfer the domain. When you promote a program such as Per Join or Per Spender, or a combination of those and revshare, the payments you receive are an advance of spending that takes 6-14 months to mature.

                                                                                                                              If we do not fully own the domain then you could promote us for one month and receive advance funds then move the domain away from us. Most of the advance payments we paid you in that situation would be a complete loss for Cambuilder.

                                                                                                                              cambuilder.com Support
                                                                                                                              [email protected]
                                                                                                                              ^ Based on the above it has nothing to do with processing compliance or regulations. It's them wanting to lock you in and limit their risks from PPL/PPS programs. That seems to be why they aren't doing it for revshare.

                                                                                                                              So if you promote them for one month get a couple sales, get paid, but decide to pull them because others perform better....what are they going to do? Keep your domain? How long are you locked in for? A year? Two years? Forever?

                                                                                                                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                                                                • XSAXS
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 652
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                                                                                                  I don't care if you live in Russia China Thailand Vietnam or anywhere the fuck else. If you enter an agreement with a company they should abide by that no matter where you are and no matter where they are.

                                                                                                                                  Anyone who brings traffic has value. This Mickey Mouse bullshit depending on where someone lives, and what you can get away with, is old school fucked bulshit.
                                                                                                                                  We're based in Las Vegas, USA. So this seems to be a global policy.

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                                                                                                                                    • XSAXS
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                      • 652
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Matyko
                                                                                                                                      would Happily hand over my domain to have a significant bump in the payment structure!!!
                                                                                                                                      Wow. You must have really crappy domains -- or at the very least you have a different idea of how you value your domains.

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                                                                                                                                        • XSAXS
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                          • 652
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Diomed
                                                                                                                                          Any word if that stands for just PPS too?

                                                                                                                                          I'm guessing so.. Regardless, the payout structure is interesting.. But I've never liked stream mate as a main sponsor.. Only as a backup.
                                                                                                                                          Diomed, they said that if I want to keep the domain, plain Revshare is my ONLY option. If I want ANY of the other payout programs I must surrender the domain.

                                                                                                                                          Which is a terrible business practice IMO. But at least it would have been fair -- if they would have disclosed it BEFORE I signed up and sent them sales.

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                                                                                                                                            • XSAXS
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 652
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                              it is clearly stated when you set up your WL that you need to transfer the domain if you do not want revshare...I guess some are too lazy to read...
                                                                                                                                              This statement is 100% false. The DID say that some whois adjustments were necessary, but they NEVER said I would have to surrender the domain.

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                                                                                                                                                • cybermike
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 4121
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  stick with the revshare... 35% is crazy good.. I wish they would bump the old whitelabels from 30%
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                                                                                                                                                    • Panty Snatcher
                                                                                                                                                      eat a peach for Hours
                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2013
                                                                                                                                                      • 540
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      THis is correct
                                                                                                                                                      and I did this much back then

                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by XSAXS
                                                                                                                                                      This statement is 100% false. The DID say that some whois adjustments were necessary, but they NEVER said I would have to surrender the domain.

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                                                                                                                                                        • nbhead
                                                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                                                          • May 2015
                                                                                                                                                          • 7
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          I see that they DO say it before you create a white label website, see https:// cambuilder com/help/faq#collapse23 (sorry, cannot post live links yet)

                                                                                                                                                          I am new in the adult business, but in the online hotel affiliate business, which also is processed by all major credit card companies, there is never any need to transfer ownership of your domain.

                                                                                                                                                          So I doubt it has anything to do with credit card companies requirements, or perhaps this is only valid for the adult industry, but this does not make much sense.

                                                                                                                                                          In the end, all that an affiliate really owns in the domain name, so if you have to give away your domain name to be an affiliate, well, then you literally don't own anything anymore, zero.

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                                                                                                                                                            • xXXtesy10
                                                                                                                                                              Fakecoin Investor
                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                                                                                                                              • 7127
                                                                                                                                                              #40
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                                                                                                                                                                • adultmobile
                                                                                                                                                                  No, I am not banned
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 5345
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                                                                                                    • PAR
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1835
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      I've done Private Label and White Label deals in the past were there had to be a signed agreement that there be X Months notice if the domain was to be used for something else.

                                                                                                                                                                      To give/get the highest possible payout the risk of having a site pointed else where over night is an issue. Not sure why they are asking you to hand the domain over rather than just sign an agreement. Personally I'd want a signed agreement with regards to how long they will be holding the domain should they want that level of control of the domain etc.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • CPA-Rush
                                                                                                                                                                          small trip to underworld
                                                                                                                                                                          • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                                          • 4927
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          zero tolerance
                                                                                                                                                                          the pigs are not flexible

                                                                                                                                                                          automatic exchange - paxum , bitcoin,pm, payza

                                                                                                                                                                          . daizzzy signbucks caution will black-hat black-hat your traffic

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                                                                                                                                                                            • xXXtesy10
                                                                                                                                                                              Fakecoin Investor
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2012
                                                                                                                                                                              • 7127
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
                                                                                                                                                                              http://gfy.com/21169705-post8.html
                                                                                                                                                                              Donny Long is Felon, Stalker, Scammer & Coward
                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...lon-int-761244

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                                                                                                                                                                                • CPA-Rush
                                                                                                                                                                                  small trip to underworld
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 4927
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  scambuilder

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                                                                                                                                                                                  . daizzzy signbucks caution will black-hat black-hat your traffic

                                                                                                                                                                                  ignored forever :zuzana designs

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • atom
                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2740
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                                                                                                                                                      scambuilder
                                                                                                                                                                                      holy fuck you are a retard.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Have Chargebacks? Send me a message.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • j3rkules
                                                                                                                                                                                          VIP
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2013
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 22111
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                                                                                                          You're right. Visa and MC really just want people to play games to mask domain ownership. They are really dumb like that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • CPA-Rush
                                                                                                                                                                                              small trip to underworld
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Mar 2012
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 4927
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by atom
                                                                                                                                                                                              holy fuck you are a retard.
                                                                                                                                                                                              did i hit a nerve ?

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                                                                                                                                                                                              . daizzzy signbucks caution will black-hat black-hat your traffic

                                                                                                                                                                                              ignored forever :zuzana designs

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • atom
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2740
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                                                                                                                                                                                                  did i hit a nerve ?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Did I? You are the dipshit that bumped a 4 month old thread. Are you upset because the 100 unique hits you sent your cambuilder whitelabel didn't generate a sale?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Have Chargebacks? Send me a message.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 50982
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Your domain name is one of your most valuable assets, or at least it can be.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Consider this: If you are going to get into the adult arena or expand on what you have, your domain is the target of all of your hard work. You build it, you drive traffic to it. It is what your customers trust when spending time and money on it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Never, never, NEVER, transfer ownership of your domain to any 3rd party just so you can use their program. If their service or software is powering your site and they want ownership of your domain, negotiate with them to keep it both, or find another service provider to partner with.

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