The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)

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  • evulvmedia
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2006
    • 441

    #1

    The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)

    Just got this e-mail:

    Dear Madam/Sir,

    the BPjM is an administrative authority of the German government called ?Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien?. Our task is to protect children and adolescents in Germany from any media which might be harmful or dangerous to minors (e.g. racist / violent / pornographic content). This work is authorized by the ?Youth Protection Law? (Jugendschutzgesetz ? JuSchG). You can find further information about our work in the enclosed form.

    A German youth welfare institution has requested the BPjM to examine the site www.MYDOMAIN.com and to enter its address into the ?list of youth-endangering media? because of its pornographic content. Such content ? according to German law ? may then only be distributed if a valid age verification system ensures that no minors (i.e. people under the age of 18) will be able to access the site and its content.

    We would like to ask you to forward us your post address, so that we can then properly notify you about the request by the youth welfare institution and give you the opportunity to reply within one week after the notification.

    Best regards,

    Mit freundlichen Grüßen

    Im Auftrag


    Natalja Tiz
    __________________________
    Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien

    Rochusstraße 10, Haus D, 53123 Bonn
    Telefon: 0228 962103-0
    Fax: 0228 379014
    E-Mail: [email protected]
    Internet: www.bundespruefstelle.de
    Is this legit? It looks legit!

    Does this mean that my freesite will be blacklisted and inaccessible in Germany? Germans are good customers; I don't want that to happen.

    Anyone ever dealt with this before?
  • Just Alex
    Liv Benson to You, Bitch
    • Aug 2007
    • 6060

    #2
    Hit delete button.

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    • DamianJ
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2006
      • 15808

      #3
      Ask Ma Dalton, but AFAIK, the krauts have strict AVS laws.

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      • k0nr4d
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2006
        • 9231

        #4
        Yes german sites must have an entry page. French as well I think. You must also have an 'impressum' page with all your contact details.
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        • Overload
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2005
          • 3185

          #5
          if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...d=155&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
          There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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          • evulvmedia
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2006
            • 441

            #6
            if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ...
            No, I am American and this site is hosted in the good ole' U.S. of A., where this stuff is legal, at least until Rick Santorum becomes President and brings good ole' German-style censorship to our Homeland! Also the domain registration is private.

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            • Slappin Fish
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2007
              • 2512

              #7
              yep got one of those once.

              I ignored it, they fined me something like 8000 Euros. I'm waiting for them to come collect...dumbasses

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              • Overload
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2005
                • 3185

                #8
                Originally posted by evulvmedia
                No, I am American and this site is hosted in the good ole' U.S. of A., where this stuff is legal, at least until Rick Santorum becomes President and brings good ole' German-style censorship to our Homeland! Also the domain registration is private.
                hah, then ignore their letters - there is nothing they can do about it
                There aren't enough faces and palms on this planet for an appropriate reaction to religion.

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                • grumpy
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 9870

                  #9
                  Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules
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                  • Spudstr
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2321

                    #10
                    We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

                    *delete*
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                    • barcodes
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2040

                      #11

                      the BPjM is an administrative authority of the German government called „Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien“


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                      • u-Bob
                        there's no $$$ in porn
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 33063

                        #12
                        Delete.
                        Or
                        Delete and add a dynamic warning page to (part of) your site.

                        pseudocode:
                        if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is set then show the porn.
                        if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is not set and ip is german ip then display warning page.

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                        • jimmycooper
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2010
                          • 4016

                          #13
                          Ich will ficken Micaela Schäfer!

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                          • u-Bob
                            there's no $$$ in porn
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33063

                            #14
                            or get their ip from the email headers and return a warning page to every visitor using an ip in the same c range.

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                            • jimmycooper
                              Confirmed User
                              • May 2010
                              • 4016

                              #15

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                              • adultmobile
                                No, I am not banned
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 5345

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Overload
                                if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...d=155&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
                                Nathan of Manwin is a german citizen, and not see avs in pornhub's, so is valid citizenship or server or company location or just german govt email small tubes but not manwin yet?

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                                • faxxaff
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2002
                                  • 2134

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Overload
                                  if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...d=155&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
                                  Your conclusion is wrong. Germany does not discriminate against people based on citizenship. It's laws are valid for all people who reside or do business in Germany, not just for German citizens.
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                                  • faxxaff
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 2134

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Spudstr
                                    We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

                                    *delete*

                                    Yeah, getting them as well. Also from Brazil. Funny.
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                                    • Klen
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 32235

                                      #19
                                      You need to either block german traffic or make a special version with age verification system for it.

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                                      • xxxbusiness
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 254

                                        #20
                                        ignore and delete, never give your adress or any private info.
                                        There is also no landing page and nothing else you need, as long you, your domain and server are in US.
                                        The one thing you can get blacklisted, is from google-Germany chiling effects, nothing else
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                                        • Denny
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 17390

                                          #21
                                          Many adult sites (including pornhub.com) get delisted from google.de.
                                          Last edited by Denny; 03-30-2012, 07:22 AM.

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                                          • just a punk
                                            So fuckin' bored
                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 32393

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by evulvmedia
                                            The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)
                                            Germans don't now how to set up parental controls in Windows or OS X? They don't know where to download the proper toolbar or they have no idea what OpenDNS is? What's an average IQ there BTW?
                                            Last edited by just a punk; 03-30-2012, 08:36 AM.
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                                            • just a punk
                                              So fuckin' bored
                                              • Jun 2003
                                              • 32393

                                              #23
                                              The country where River Raid was banned for violence?

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                                              • Darrell
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 803

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by u-Bob
                                                Delete.
                                                Or
                                                Delete and add a dynamic warning page to (part of) your site.

                                                pseudocode:
                                                if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is set then show the porn.
                                                if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is not set and ip is german ip then display warning page.
                                                How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?

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                                                • cooldude7
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2009
                                                  • 4306

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Darrell
                                                  How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?
                                                  PHP Code:
                                                  <head>
                                                  <script src="http://www.geoplugin.net/javascript.gp" type="text/javascript"></script>
                                                  <script type="text/javascript">
                                                      switch(geoplugin_countryCode()){
                                                          case "AT" :
                                                              document.location.href = "http://austriatraffic";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "CH" :
                                                              document.location.href = "http://switzerlandtraffic"
                                                              break;
                                                          case "DE" :
                                                              document.location.href = "http://germantraffic"
                                                              break;
                                                          default :
                                                              document.location.href = "http://othertraffic"
                                                              break;
                                                      }
                                                  </script>
                                                  </head> 
                                                  

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                                                  • Darrell
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                    • 803

                                                    #26
                                                    Thanks cooldude7 I'll try that out

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                                                    • globofun
                                                      Buk Lau
                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                      • 2651

                                                      #27
                                                      I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

                                                      Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

                                                      I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....
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                                                      • Tom_PM
                                                        Porn Meister
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 16443

                                                        #28
                                                        Good idea to make the page for your German visitors. After all, you WANT adults who have credit cards or methods to pay anyway. Best filter them ASAP.
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                                                        • jimmycooper
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2010
                                                          • 4016

                                                          #29




                                                          Nippelblitzer FTW!!!

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                                                          • bigluv
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2008
                                                            • 850

                                                            #30
                                                            This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
                                                            I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?

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                                                            • Klen
                                                              • Aug 2006
                                                              • 32235

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bigluv
                                                              This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
                                                              I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?
                                                              Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.

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                                                              • anexsia
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • May 2010
                                                                • 5735

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                                                Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.
                                                                So funny, japan and European countries will allow scat and all kinds of crazy shit but censor every thing else...then you have the U.S. who doesn't want scat but will show just about every thing else.

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                                                                • Klen
                                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                                  • 32235

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by anexsia
                                                                  So funny, japan and European countries will allow scat and all kinds of crazy shit but censor every thing else...then you have the U.S. who doesn't want scat but will show just about every thing else.
                                                                  Till santorum or romney step into power

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                                                                  • OneWhoKnows
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2005
                                                                    • 873

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bigluv
                                                                    This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
                                                                    I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?
                                                                    You have to use a government approved AVS which involves face-to-face age control, meaning the postman rings at your door and you gotta show him a valid form of ID, he approves your age and sends a document back to the AVS.

                                                                    Then you also have to use an authentication method with some hardware (CD, USB Stick) involved, because your kids could steal your username/password.

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                                                                    • pornmasta
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jun 2006
                                                                      • 20016

                                                                      #35
                                                                      you have to respect the rules of Saudi Arabia too...

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                                                                      • pornmasta
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Jun 2006
                                                                        • 20016

                                                                        #36
                                                                        btw where to redirect german people ?

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                                                                        • mopek1
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 3192

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by globofun
                                                                          I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

                                                                          Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

                                                                          I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....
                                                                          Why would they ask you to take it down instead of just putting up an enter page like the thread starter?

                                                                          Did they say you could get arrested ?

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                                                                          • Renzo
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 130

                                                                            #38
                                                                            A landing page will not be enough.
                                                                            You have to remove all hardcore content in order to be compliant with german laws.

                                                                            Consequence of not being compliant will be a delisting from google.de.

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                                                                            • rowan
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Mar 2002
                                                                              • 17393

                                                                              #39
                                                                              I've received the emails from Turkey too.

                                                                              I wonder if they have an ulterior motive for asking for your contact details in order to officially serve you, like putting you on a blacklist so you can't enter the country...

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                                                                              • CP_Renato
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Dec 2011
                                                                                • 4

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by grumpy
                                                                                Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules
                                                                                It´s not a landingpage.It´s a real adult verification system. You put your name, id card number and more to get your age verified.

                                                                                Germans got a lot of hardcore sites on google.de index , but ger bureaucracy is far away from fast.in that way they just want to make examples.if this "Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien" get aat least 1 site in half year down from google.de, they have the right to keep on and burn german taxes by removing few porn sites from google.de index.
                                                                                that´s all.
                                                                                Last edited by CP_Renato; 04-17-2012, 03:35 PM.

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