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Old 03-30-2012, 07:13 AM   #1
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The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)

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the BPjM is an administrative authority of the German government called „Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien“. Our task is to protect children and adolescents in Germany from any media which might be harmful or dangerous to minors (e.g. racist / violent / pornographic content). This work is authorized by the “Youth Protection Law” (Jugendschutzgesetz – JuSchG). You can find further information about our work in the enclosed form.

A German youth welfare institution has requested the BPjM to examine the site www.MYDOMAIN.com and to enter its address into the “list of youth-endangering media” because of its pornographic content. Such content – according to German law – may then only be distributed if a valid age verification system ensures that no minors (i.e. people under the age of 18) will be able to access the site and its content.

We would like to ask you to forward us your post address, so that we can then properly notify you about the request by the youth welfare institution and give you the opportunity to reply within one week after the notification.

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Is this legit? It looks legit!

Does this mean that my freesite will be blacklisted and inaccessible in Germany? Germans are good customers; I don't want that to happen.

Anyone ever dealt with this before?
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:14 AM   #2
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:15 AM   #3
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Ask Ma Dalton, but AFAIK, the krauts have strict AVS laws.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:22 AM   #4
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Yes german sites must have an entry page. French as well I think. You must also have an 'impressum' page with all your contact details.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #5
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if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...1 55&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:30 AM   #6
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if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ...
No, I am American and this site is hosted in the good ole' U.S. of A., where this stuff is legal, at least until Rick Santorum becomes President and brings good ole' German-style censorship to our Homeland! Also the domain registration is private.
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:32 AM   #7
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yep got one of those once.

I ignored it, they fined me something like 8000 Euros. I'm waiting for them to come collect...dumbasses
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Old 03-30-2012, 07:44 AM   #8
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No, I am American and this site is hosted in the good ole' U.S. of A., where this stuff is legal, at least until Rick Santorum becomes President and brings good ole' German-style censorship to our Homeland! Also the domain registration is private.
hah, then ignore their letters - there is nothing they can do about it
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:33 AM   #9
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Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules
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We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

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Old 03-30-2012, 08:56 AM   #12
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Delete.
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Delete and add a dynamic warning page to (part of) your site.

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if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is not set and ip is german ip then display warning page.
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:58 AM   #13
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Old 03-30-2012, 08:58 AM   #14
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or get their ip from the email headers and return a warning page to every visitor using an ip in the same c range.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:03 AM   #15
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:10 AM   #16
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if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...1 55&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
Nathan of Manwin is a german citizen, and not see avs in pornhub's, so is valid citizenship or server or company location or just german govt email small tubes but not manwin yet?
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:13 AM   #17
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if your site is on a german server and you are a german citizen you are fucked by now ... but, read yourself: http://www.gaimer.de/index.php?optio...1 55&Itemid=2 ... scroll down a bit for the english version ;)
Your conclusion is wrong. Germany does not discriminate against people based on citizenship. It's laws are valid for all people who reside or do business in Germany, not just for German citizens.
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We get emails all the time from the turkey gov asking us to take customer sites down and obey their "self reporting law" and disable the pornographic sites.

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Yeah, getting them as well. Also from Brazil. Funny.
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You need to either block german traffic or make a special version with age verification system for it.
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Old 03-30-2012, 09:18 AM   #20
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ignore and delete, never give your adress or any private info.
There is also no landing page and nothing else you need, as long you, your domain and server are in US.
The one thing you can get blacklisted, is from google-Germany chiling effects, nothing else
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Many adult sites (including pornhub.com) get delisted from google.de.
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Old 03-30-2012, 10:35 AM   #22
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The fucking Germans want to censor my freesite! (I think...???)
Germans don't now how to set up parental controls in Windows or OS X? They don't know where to download the proper toolbar or they have no idea what OpenDNS is? What's an average IQ there BTW?
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Delete.
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Delete and add a dynamic warning page to (part of) your site.

pseudocode:
if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is set then show the porn.
if cookie "isgermanandolderthan18" is not set and ip is german ip then display warning page.
How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?
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How do you add a dynamic warning page that will detect the ip and display a different warning page/language for different countries?
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    switch(geoplugin_countryCode()){
        case "AT" :
            document.location.href = "http://austriatraffic";
            break;
        case "CH" :
            document.location.href = "http://switzerlandtraffic"
            break;
        case "DE" :
            document.location.href = "http://germantraffic"
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            document.location.href = "http://othertraffic"
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Thanks cooldude7 I'll try that out
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I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....
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Good idea to make the page for your German visitors. After all, you WANT adults who have credit cards or methods to pay anyway. Best filter them ASAP.
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This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?
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This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?
Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.
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Same shit with japan who censor dicks and pussy yet they produce all kind of shit.
So funny, japan and European countries will allow scat and all kinds of crazy shit but censor every thing else...then you have the U.S. who doesn't want scat but will show just about every thing else.
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So funny, japan and European countries will allow scat and all kinds of crazy shit but censor every thing else...then you have the U.S. who doesn't want scat but will show just about every thing else.
Till santorum or romney step into power
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This is kind of funny considering the kind of stuff that comes out of germany.
I guess a "only enter if you are 18" page is not enough, or is it for these people?
You have to use a government approved AVS which involves face-to-face age control, meaning the postman rings at your door and you gotta show him a valid form of ID, he approves your age and sends a document back to the AVS.

Then you also have to use an authentication method with some hardware (CD, USB Stick) involved, because your kids could steal your username/password.
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you have to respect the rules of Saudi Arabia too...
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I once received a snail mail (registered) letter from them to take down a blog of mine....

Do you believe I could have a warrant for my arrest in the EU?

I'm Canadian and hosted in the US.....
Why would they ask you to take it down instead of just putting up an enter page like the thread starter?

Did they say you could get arrested ?
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A landing page will not be enough.
You have to remove all hardcore content in order to be compliant with german laws.

Consequence of not being compliant will be a delisting from google.de.
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I've received the emails from Turkey too.

I wonder if they have an ulterior motive for asking for your contact details in order to officially serve you, like putting you on a blacklist so you can't enter the country...
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Yes, you can and will be blacklisted if you don't make a German landings page according to their rules
It´s not a landingpage.It´s a real adult verification system. You put your name, id card number and more to get your age verified.

Germans got a lot of hardcore sites on google.de index , but ger bureaucracy is far away from fast.in that way they just want to make examples.if this "Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien" get aat least 1 site in half year down from google.de, they have the right to keep on and burn german taxes by removing few porn sites from google.de index.
that´s all.

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