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spazlabz 09-02-2010 06:57 PM

if someone were to receive funds right now and they are unaware of the issues with Visa, would those funds now automatically go into their wallets even if they have not changed their settings yet? This would avoid additional money getting tied up by Visa for users that do not realize there is a problem yet

Michael O 09-02-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17462427)
Michael, since VV has been suspended, does it mean all incoming money will go now into Wallet by default for those whos been accepting it in VV previously?

You can change the setting inside your account if you log in and click Wallet Settings.

Intrinsic 09-02-2010 06:57 PM

103 bbq's ruined

cambaby 09-02-2010 06:58 PM

I thought the wallet was just a virtual safeguard to protect your funds from being directly accessed, I mean its not like they have your money physically separated so really there should be no distinction between the visa and wallet area since the wallet is an epassporte proprietary thing?

BTW This post needs to be sticky

BJ 09-02-2010 06:58 PM

with all the illegal pharmacies and casinos operating from the same bank in st. kitts it must be a safe place to keep your money. right?

Shaze 09-02-2010 06:59 PM

if a sponsor pays us after this point through epassporte is the money deposited into the "Virtual Visa Account" or my "epassporte Wallet"? I assume it is now deposited into the epassporte Wallet since the Visa side of the account is frozen now and money can't go in or out of the Virtual Visa Account?

I have a payment on hold waiting to be paid through epassporte, but need to find this out first because if it comes into the Virtual Visa side of the account then I might as well tell them to hold payment until this is resolved.

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17462341)
Funds on the Virtual card can not be accessed at this time cause Visa have suspended the cards, only funds in the Wallet can be accessed.


Michael O 09-02-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker (Post 17462433)
Um I have all my money on my wallet just tried to send someone money and got the error message, so for me at least I can't even send from my wallet

Tech is working on it should be working soon.

Michael O 09-02-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mightyjoe (Post 17462442)
Hi Michael, what the other option besides withdraw via wire, a US bank account or to a credit/debit card in your name to get my funds on my wallet?

Also can you estimate how many days will epass work like it was before?

If the money is on the virtual card they are not available at this time, we are doing all we can to get everything back to normal.

Sly 09-02-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17462463)
I thought the wallet was just a virtual safeguard to protect your funds from being directly accessed, I mean its not like they have your money physically separated so really there should be no distinction between the visa and wallet area since the wallet is an epassporte proprietary thing?

BTW This post needs to be sticky

Yeh that's what I don't get. In the actual financial system of epass, what is the real difference between wallet money and virtual Visa money? Are they literally split into separate accounts the minute you make a transfer? That's the only thing that would really make sense.

TheSenator 09-02-2010 07:01 PM

FUCK!!! Hopefully, when I get back from my vacation all this shit will be cleared up.

Serge Litehead 09-02-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17462457)
You can change the setting inside your account if you log in and click Wallet Settings.

thats understandable Micheal,
but why would Epass allow to send money into indefinitely suspended Virtual Visa cards? isn't wiser at this time to switch everyone to receive into wallets until you resolve the issue?

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cradle (Post 17462444)
i fucked up, i put 1k in my virtual trying to withdraw it and now its stuck, i guess on my way to the atm this shit changed or they allowed funds to go into the virtual while the cards were suspended.

around 3PM EST it was still working

I used the atm around 2:30 pm my time and it worked...

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17462473)
thats understandable Micheal,
but why would Epass allow to send money into indefinitely suspended Virtual Visa cards? isn't wiser at this time to switch everyone to receive into wallets until you resolve the issue?

Great point....

Michael O 09-02-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze (Post 17462465)
if a sponsor pays us after this point through epassporte is the money deposited into the "Virtual Visa Account" or my "epassporte Wallet"? I assume it is now deposited into the epassporte Wallet since the Visa side of the account is frozen now and money can't go in or out of the Virtual Visa Account?

I have a payment on hold waiting to be paid through epassporte, but need to find this out first because if it comes into the Virtual Visa side of the account then I might as well tell them to hold payment until this is resolved.

Thanks.

The Virtual card can not receive or send funds it will be rejected.
You can receive funds on the Wallet only.

CYF 09-02-2010 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 17462463)
I thought the wallet was just a virtual safeguard to protect your funds from being directly accessed, I mean its not like they have your money physically separated so really there should be no distinction between the visa and wallet area since the wallet is an epassporte proprietary thing?

BTW This post needs to be sticky

This.

Please explain why money can't be moved to the wallet from the virtual visa.

beerptrol 09-02-2010 07:02 PM

thank god I withdraw the money or spend it as soon as I get it. I switched it so any money that comes in goes to the wallet


Why not use an american bank instead of an offshore bank to issue the visa

uno 09-02-2010 07:02 PM

I withdrew money from VV 4 or 5 hours ago. I hope it goes through. I can deal with losing the $3 that was left after the transfer.

mightyjoe 09-02-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 17462416)
shit i emailed it wrong lol

[email protected] oopsieeeeeeeeeee


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Juicy are having erectile dysfunction now, please help him get his penis erected well

18teens 09-02-2010 07:03 PM

Fuck, every cent of my money is in the virtual visa.

Michael O 09-02-2010 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holograph (Post 17462473)
thats understandable Micheal,
but why would Epass allow to send money into indefinitely suspended Virtual Visa cards? isn't wiser at this time to switch everyone to receive into wallets until you resolve the issue?

If you have set to receive on the virtual card and someone tries to p2p to you then the transfer will be rejected. Its not possible to move to/from the virtual card.

Phoenix 09-02-2010 07:04 PM

i think best not to let anymore money go into epass at this time

im trying to change my larger payments now to check

fuck

halfpint 09-02-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 17462455)
Easy for you to say when you cant use the money that you earned to pay for ads or traffic or even bills...This should NEVER be a problem with such a heavily used company and if so there should be other options or backups to solve this and for people to be able to still get there money. Eggs into 1 basket is the problem. I rely on paying through epass and taking money out for bills etc. This is my life so you can take that mumbo jumbo elsewhere. This is bad bad biz and the longer this is a issue where people cant send out money to another epass holder and not pull money out, then you will see a massive backlash. Some people rely on epass sending money to foreign partners for biz and this haults biz which haults income and harm lives. its bad enough we have a fucking recession and now this???

Im in the same boat as u buddy I have money stuck in epass which i need and cant get at, U can blame Visa they hold all the cards to this, but poiting fingers and blaming Michael when he is the one person that has helped so many people in the past is not fair at all, Visa has pulled this crap before with other companys

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 07:07 PM

This is seriously the worse thing possible...Im fucked now with biz and my bills...Someones responsible if this isnt fixed soon.

mightyjoe 09-02-2010 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 17462470)
If the money is on the virtual card they are not available at this time, we are doing all we can to get everything back to normal.

No, they are in my wallet thats why I'm asking what other ways to get my money on my wallet..... beside from wire, a us bank account and a debit card.

can i use xoom, or any other option to get the money out from the wallet?

Wagerboy 09-02-2010 07:08 PM

duh. In the USA's eyes its like money laundering, tax evasion. You think VISA is going to want to get involved with that? Saw this coming years ago and never used it since. Ooh yeah, The IRS told me that. After I agreed to pay 1750/month back to them. Hope everyone gets whats in the accts.

Brent 3dSexCash 09-02-2010 07:08 PM

Unless the money is seized (which would mean they are lying), they should be collecting information to ship out wires in the next 24 hours so people can get their funds.

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 17462491)
Im in the same boat as u buddy I have money stuck in epass which i need and cant get at, U can blame Visa they hold all the cards to this, but poiting fingers and blaming Michael when he is the one person that has helped so many people in the past is not fair at all, Visa has pulled this crap before with other companys

Michael works for epass and visa and epass has the problem which michael gets the wrath...The cards are dealt like that...Its gonna be worse when they dont solve this in a timely manner...

Klen 09-02-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 17462496)
duh. In the USA's eyes its like money laundering, tax evasion. You think VISA is going to want to get involved with that? Saw this coming years ago and never used it since. Ooh yeah, The IRS told me that. After I agreed to pay 1750/month back to them. Hope everyone gets whats in the accts.

Well couldn't you use paypal for same purpose?

bdld 09-02-2010 07:11 PM

i'm not surprised.

Fat Panda 09-02-2010 07:11 PM

Being skeptical of epassporte I've always carried a:

You have a total of US$0.00 available on your ePassporte Account.

You have US$0.00 available in your ePassporte Wallet.
You have US$0.00 available on your ePassporte Visa Virtual Account.

Seems my instinct was right, just changed all sponsor payments to check/wire.

Good luck to those with locked funds!

Agent 488 09-02-2010 07:12 PM

Well i am fucked then.

NaughtyRob 09-02-2010 07:13 PM

I am soooo glad I have nothing in epass. I always withdraw immediately. But now I am fucked. Can't use Paypal, can't use epass. Most people don't want to send wires. Thank God I just set up my store using CCBILL!!!

Wagerboy 09-02-2010 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17462501)
Well couldn't you use paypal for same purpose?

yes of course. Im not saying its anyones fault but my own, but look at it from VISA's side. Do they need the headache? The IRS does NOT like programs like paypal and epass. Ill say that. Everyone is a thief in their eyes. I hope this gets settled. Seems alot of people have alot of money tied up right now.

Brent 3dSexCash 09-02-2010 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 17462504)
Being skeptical of epassporte I've always carried a:

You have a total of US$0.00 available on your ePassporte Account.

You have US$0.00 available in your ePassporte Wallet.
You have US$0.00 available on your ePassporte Visa Virtual Account.

Seems my instinct was right, just changed all sponsor payments to check/wire.

Good luck to those with locked funds!



The problem with epassporte is you never and still dont have any recourse with them. They are on a fucking island with Poker Stars and other shady online gambling sites. Like gambling sites, they can literally steal your money and there is nothing you can do about it (except chargeback if it is a recent deposit)

God, I really hope they dont fuck people. Once you get your money off epassporte never ever use them again.

cambaby 09-02-2010 07:15 PM

Michael, first off thanks for replying to our questions, secondly Im still very curious about the distinction between a wallet and the visa part, so physically they are two separate accounts, not virtually but physically the money is separated? Why cant you just automatically move the money into the wallet area "virtually" if its a virtual safeguard? Otherwise Im not sure it makes much sense to the layman whats going on here.

Brent 3dSexCash 09-02-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagerboy (Post 17462507)
yes of course. Im not saying its anyones fault but my own, but look at it from VISA's side. Do they need the headache? The IRS does NOT like programs like paypal and epass. Ill say that. Everyone is a thief in their eyes. I hope this gets settled. Seems alot of people have alot of money tied up right now.

The difference is that Paypal IS a USA company so you have means to get your money back if they screw you... big difference

Jaeger 09-02-2010 07:16 PM

sigh every fucking thing about this business just gets more negative and depressing its like a downward spiral really....I like most of you need my epass, for me though its for this month's rent!

Phoenix 09-02-2010 07:16 PM

Michael...are we really going to be able to transfer funds out from the wallet?

Fat Panda 09-02-2010 07:17 PM

This could be the THREAD OF THE DECADE!

Jaeger 09-02-2010 07:18 PM

oh however im personally not thinking this is epassporte's fault.. I hope that they can get the visa sorted good luck michael.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-02-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavieVegas (Post 17462494)
This is seriously the worse thing possible...Im fucked now with biz and my bills...Someones responsible if this isnt fixed soon.

if you're that dependent on epass then you're an idiot.

Phoenix 09-02-2010 07:19 PM

this business is pissing me off

im ready to sell...and go rape mainstream

Wagerboy 09-02-2010 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent 3dSexCash (Post 17462511)
The difference is that Paypal IS a USA company so you have means to get your money back if they screw you... big difference

good point Brent...

Michael O 09-02-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mightyjoe (Post 17462495)
No, they are in my wallet thats why I'm asking what other ways to get my money on my wallet..... beside from wire, a us bank account and a debit card.

can i use xoom, or any other option to get the money out from the wallet?

Sorry its no possible beside the 3 listed options at this time.

Spunky 09-02-2010 07:21 PM

Grog,not another headache to deal with

DavieVegas 09-02-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 17462519)
if you're that dependent on epass than you're an idiot.

I use both epass and paypal....MOST people i do biz with only has epass because they live in diff countries therefore when i pay them or get paid i have to use it so fuck off bitch. I got thousands in my epass since i was just paid and therefore at this moment because of how and who i do biz with its the way it has to be tough guy..This forum is full of trolls like you and most make no money but got tons to say...Eat a dick

NaughtyRob 09-02-2010 07:22 PM

For those that have not done it yet, do this ASAP!!!

Log into your epass, click Edit my profile, then Wallet settings then choose...

Automate where your funds are stored:
Wallet x
Visa Virtual

Because if money comes into your Visa Virtual you are fucked to get it out.

anexsia 09-02-2010 07:22 PM

I'm sooooooo glad I did not start using epassporte at this time...I feel for the people with funds locked up I know that can really suck. This is a major problem and most reputable companies would have this fixed asap as in 24-48 hours which hopefully epassporte does.

Michael O 09-02-2010 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17462514)
Michael...are we really going to be able to transfer funds out from the wallet?

Yes if you money is on the Wallet then you can still withdraw them.

st0ned 09-02-2010 07:23 PM

Even if this is fixed anytime soon I assume the only options will still be wire or check? Meaning I definitely wont be accessing my money in the next week or two minimum. This is fucked...


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