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				Been doing 3d on the side, lemme know what you think (PIC)
			 
			I do 3d architectural stuff and landscapes as a hobby on the side, let me know what you think of my latest little project.  Anyone else into this kind of stuff?  This was done with Maya and Vue Infinite.  100% 3d. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Not bad at all. Maybe a bit too much light on the porch considering its dark outside? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Pretty cool. How long did that take you to create? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 looks very good.. try notches on the wood 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 nice how long did that take 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Looks pretty good, but the lighting is a bit too plain and makes it look cartoonish imho, but I reckon exterior scenes are the most difficult to get right. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Very nice. Some wear and tear effect on the wood texture would work imho. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I like it, the light could be an overhead outdoor light.  As another 3d guy all I can say is keep it up 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 If it were dark there would be little to no shadow in the grass from the trees. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Phil dude! Come online to ICQ please, I want to talk with ya !  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Phil, My dear friend, this is back at 05' ,  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 looks good, but the direction of light and the shadow on the railing doesn't seem to match. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I like it.  I would not even know where to start doing something like that 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It's really good, I used to do 3D. Back then I used, Infini-D on a Mac.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 could definitely work as a sideline business in landscape prototypes 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Its alright for starting out, doing it on the side.  Its looks pretty low-poly.  I love Cinema 4D.  I think its really underrated software.  Besides Cinema 4d, I use Maya. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Modeling looks good, but my one complaint would be the compositing.  I'm seeing black outlines on the edges that meet the background, which makes it appear cartoonish.  Also needs some color adjustment (levels) to get it to match up better with your backdrop. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 In regards to to the questions of how long it took ... modeling of the porch and design of the (imperfect) landscape, plus a few minutes in PS for compositing, probably took about 3 hrs total. Not a huge amount of time at all. Thanks again for the input! I will post some revisions. -Phil PS: OOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!! ( AKA Adonthenet) I will hit you up soon man. I don't use ICQ much, but my number is: 358-829-109 HIT ME UP BRO! So stoked on the Stern Forex Biz you got going, GREAT STUFF! I might actually become a client very soon ;), let's talk either way I miss your bro! Hope all is well.  | 
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		 Here's a more 'complete' image that my biz partner and I did for an actual client: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 And one more ...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 there is $$$$$ to be made in that field 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Nice!  I know a kid that models dorm rooms and apartments so the college can show prospective students idea's about living arrangements, makes good money doing it I guess. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 that somehow reduces the realism is the texure / material setting of the countertop. Just add a hot frenchmaid and nobody will care about other details  | 
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		 That's pretty cool. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Very nice, that looks so good!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 The pics look awesome. Do you have any more samples? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Nice work, I like it 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 great work there  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Wow, that's amazing!  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 The first one the lighting is wrong IMHO, the others you posted look good. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Nice looking work man 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Now these are much more realistic obviously.  Really good interior modeling.  In order to make any suggestions, you really have to nitpick.  The only thing that strikes me in this render are that the "towels" hanging on the wall and in the shelves seem too stiff and smooth, and there seems to be no depth to the sinks.  They look flat.  Again, an AO pass would do this wonders.  Otherwise, great work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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