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Old 10-08-2002, 06:27 AM   #1
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DrBizzaro.com WHAT THE FUCK?

recieved this in the mail today
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Webmaster,
You are receiving this because you submit galleries to DrBizzaro.com
Because of daily rampant abuse of our TGP by dishonest webmasters,
DrBizzaro.com will be transforming into a "Private Submit only" TGP in the
next couple of weeks.

A private submit will allow guaranteed daily posting of your galleries, on
our site.
Private submits will run anywhere from $50 a month (Standard) to $150 a
month (Platinum).

The Standard submission will allow you to post up to 2 galleries in
different categories per day and be output somewhere in the bottom 90% of
that days links.
The Silver submission will allow you to post up to 3 galleries in different
categories per day and be output somewhere in the middle 50% of that days
links.
The Gold submission will allow you to post up to 4 galleries in different
categories per day and be output somewhere in the top 25% of that days
links.
The Platinum Submission will would allow you to post up to 5 galleries
different categories per day and be output somewhere in the top 10% of that
days links.
(Movie only submissions run a bit more)

Why pay?
* Guaranteed posting means that every link you post will remain on the
site for 1 week.
* Your site will not be blacklisted or it will be unblacklisted if it
already is. (Unless you are caught cheating or Abusing the Private Submit.
We will have a "ZERO tolerance policy.)
* Since we will not be getting 1000's and 1000's of submissions, we
will only be posting a fraction of the links, so the traffic will be more
concentrated. (This will allow for more targeted traffic to
your galleries and thus more signups for you.)
* No more cheaters means more surfers who TRUST our links.
* You'd only need to make between 2 and 6 sales a month to break even,
depending on which submission level you choose. (With the average paysite
selling at $25.) Less, if you use a reoccurring partnerships.


We have been testing this with a handful of webmasters for the past few
months and it has been working great.
We will only be allowing a handful of webmasters to join and it will be
first come first served.

Also, if you are an owner of a paysite that offers it's affiliates "Hosted
Galleries", we are interested in joining or talking to you about making a
deal.
We have been testing this method out as well and the signup rations have
been incredible.

If you are interested and want payment options, or had any other questions,
please free to email me back.

Thanx,
--Dr Bizzaro
http://www.drbizzaro.com

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well don't blame it on cheaters as there are many good tools to get rid of them...
ist it that the guys at bizzaro like gregpix cannot ( don't know how to ) make decent bucks from surfer so they have to milk the webmasters ?


shame!
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Old 10-08-2002, 07:02 AM   #2
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Yeah it sucks.. another one going down this path.. funny thing with gregpix.. i had a gallery listed which he must of gotten from another site or submission i made somewhere, as I never paid for any listings.. perhaps hes short of a few

I wonder how many webmasters actually pay for this sort of "privledge" ?

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Old 10-08-2002, 07:08 AM   #3
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I don't know anything about his site, but i'm guessing 5 galleries per day, every day for a month, in the top 25% of the links, will make a tidy sum of money, on just about any moderately sized TGP.
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Old 10-08-2002, 07:09 AM   #4
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I have not got this email yet.

Can someone please post DrBizarro's email address?!

THANKS!!!
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Old 10-08-2002, 07:09 AM   #5
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TGP's dont make money thats why The Hun, World Sex and the rest of them sell gallery spots rather than keep it for themselves. This is no secret, I guess Dr Bizzaro is just realizing that now.
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Old 10-08-2002, 08:12 AM   #6
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GAY......

with a TGP that size with all the diffrent catorgies he will not sell out all his spots, its like easy pic trying to sell all his, WILL NOT WORK... it would be wise to say mabey the top 10 spots in every catorgie for sale but thats about it....

i will stop submitting ad just wait till it is free again....
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Old 10-08-2002, 08:15 AM   #7
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He does have decent traffic though
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Old 10-08-2002, 08:24 AM   #8
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Old 10-08-2002, 08:57 AM   #9
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tgp suck, but believe me from past experiences drbizzaro has decent quality traffic,if you get listed everyday you'll cover the submit cost in 1-2days
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:22 AM   #10
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:27 AM   #11
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I used to be a DrB. preferred submitter and his traffic was fantastic, but that's been several months ago (I've since lost my account info). I forsee a lot more TGP's going the pay per listing route...getting tougher to make a buck all around....the good news is that those who have decent traffic and are charging will make money and those who have shit will die off....
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:36 AM   #12
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Old 10-08-2002, 10:55 AM   #13
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SABAI,

thanks for the email address :-)
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:01 AM   #14
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i think in 2003 all 100k+ tgps will sell their top and the rest spots to webmasters
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:05 AM   #15
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Dr.B. is cool.
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:07 AM   #16
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I'd love to know an easy ways of trying to filter out all of the junk from the gallery submissions, and get better quality galleries
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:11 AM   #17
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I got that message too...I used to get listed there all the time and the traffic was good. Maybe 1500 hits per day per gallery.
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:15 AM   #18
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Interesting views all...I didn't realize that I would cause such a stir in the past 2 hours.


Well, to answer some of these questions:

Yes, I do still make good money from advertising on the site.

I decided to do this MAINLY to weed out the cheaters on the site. No it's not as easy as some of you think.
I get almost 1500 submissions a day even AFTER I have blacklisted over 4000 domains, and 1000's of I.P. addresses.
I pay employees to go through the galleries as well as monitor them throughout the day for cheaters. Out of the 1500 we get, I only post about 400 and by the end of every single day, that number is down to about 300.

The cheaters just use different URL's and I.P. addresses every day.
I have spent the last 5 years NOT blindlink or circle jerking my surfers around and have built up a reputation on that. The traffic to the galleries I post as well as the sites I trade with is great.
Anyone who has posted knows this.


Sure, I expect to make some good money doing this, but it is a service and since I spent the last 5 years working like a dog to get where I am, why shouldn't I get compensated for it?


It's too bad that all the asshole cheaters out there have to spoil shit for all the honest webmasters. But obviously they think they are much smarter and are in it for the quick buck.

They are the reason that people don't trust sites anymore. (As well as all the CJ TGP's out there with their crap traffic.)

Well, the 6 million surfers a month that visit my site can't be wrong. And judging by the overwhelming response I got from webmasters about what I am doing, within an hour of sending out the emails, I think this is going to work out good for:
my site
my surfers
and
my partners.


If anyone is interested email me at [email protected]
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:25 AM   #19
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:41 AM   #20
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I'd love to know an easy ways of trying to filter out all of the junk from the gallery submissions, and get better quality galleries
Simple. Just go to partner submits only. I did this with the X-3 script a few years ago, and now I run TGP Devil. Now I not only have the partnerdatabase, I can quickly see who is using their account, and who is sitting on zeros and delete inactive accounts.

I have only deleted one partner for cheating in the past 4 months. And I don't have to sift thru 4000 gallery submissions each day.
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Old 10-08-2002, 11:53 AM   #21
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I am using agp, and thought that with the email confirm and the heavy blacklist list, that it would work... but I still get an enormous amount of galleries per day

it would be better to have less galleries from a few partners who make good galleries
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Old 10-08-2002, 12:02 PM   #22
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Why, thank you.
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Old 10-08-2002, 12:04 PM   #23
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I screw up my submissions every once in a while, and he still lists me...

Good traffic too...

$150/mo isn't shit anyways... I'm glad to see that some of the tgps are pumpin out requirements like this... keeps all the nasty spammin, scammin, cheaters outta my way.
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Old 10-08-2002, 12:05 PM   #24
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I think this is going to work out good for:
my site
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If anyone is interested email me at [email protected]
no offence but......

you forgot to mention our content and our bandwith for hosting the images...its a 2 way thing...

or else would you mind paying us to make clean quality galeries, you buy the content and the hosting bills?

i mean hey sure you should make some money from top listing but the whole site is just a little too much.....

whats next? we will have to use your sponsors and your refcodes also?

if i ever see like someone said one of my galleries on gregpix i would just ask him to pay me since i didn't submit to him and he's getting traffic because of my good quality content/gallery....

things are getting upside down lately...


just my point of view
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:08 PM   #25
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I ripped you of an email Dr
You either did not recieve it or didnt respond.
I have had a virus yet again using outlook express.
I would dearly love some of your quality traffic.
Please respond.
Sorry to dig up an old thread it was my only option.
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:15 PM   #26
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DrBizzaro is cool. Let him run his site as he wants. You don't like it too bad and don't buy a submit pass. It's pretty simple really.
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:15 PM   #27
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Check my galleries out, lot's of killer movie clips that surfers dig.

All info in sig. Hit me up on ICQ if you have any ?'s

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With all of the cheaters what else do you guys propose? You are making money from TGP and MGP traffic so why not charge you guys?

Look for more sites with lots of traffic to only accept galleries from friends, other TGP or MGP owners and or paid accounts like this.

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I think paying for a submit pass is a good idea.

Weeds out the flopdicks.
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am I the only one that noticed this thread is over a year old?
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Old 01-11-2004, 02:23 PM   #31
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I'm buying a pass right now. Passing up a deal like this is madness.

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good job dr bizarro!
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am I the only one that noticed this thread is over a year old?
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Whilst your in here can I have your url for your traffic packages
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TGP's dont make money thats why The Hun, World Sex and the rest of them sell gallery spots rather than keep it for themselves. This is no secret, I guess Dr Bizzaro is just realizing that now.
thats bullshit. first off there are many reasons why its best for them to sell gallery spots and its smart for them to do so.
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Yes, this is an old thread. But I have not allowed public submissions since then and it's been working out just fine.

I charge a VERY minimal amount to submit one gallery a day for a month.
(Considering some of the other prices I've seen out there) I also have an automatic and a manual submission program to choose from. I have simple rules and as long as you follow them, your shit will get posted daily.

If you want to read about the programs and get a quote, all the info is located here:
http://www.drbizzaro.com/submit.html

If you have any questions, please feel free to hit me up via ICQ... (25654284)

My email has been a little goofy lately, but other then that I always respond to all my email.
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Looking forward to hearing from you!

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