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Old 07-19-2007, 05:43 PM   #1
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is 7k a lot of paysite members

if a single site has 7k members is that a lot of members compared to what most sites have?
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:48 PM   #2
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7000 people paying 40$/month is quite a bit of money
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:52 PM   #3
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:12 PM   #4
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Alot of GFY will tell you 7000 members is peanuts. Don't listen to them. Anybody who has 7000 members is doing well. 7000 * $30 = $210,000 a month. That is really good.

When it comes to members i feel there are a few milestones that are tough as hell to reach.
First 1000 members are a bitch.
Then 2000 is tougher than you'd think. Not tougher than 1000 but still challenging.
Then it's 5000.

After 5000 I've felt every 5000 after that is still challenging.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:21 PM   #5
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Active members at full price? Yes it is.

Is this about a specific site or just hypothetical?
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:23 PM   #6
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:25 PM   #7
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We have a little over 2000 members and just opened at the end of April. I'm REAL happy about that. I don't have any trials, just full recurring.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:32 PM   #9
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not really 7000 members on a free email members area is crap you should have a lot more than that
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:40 PM   #10
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i am talking about a paysite of course fakenick
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:42 PM   #11
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Alot of GFY will tell you 7000 members is peanuts. Don't listen to them. Anybody who has 7000 members is doing well. 7000 * $30 = $210,000 a month. That is really good.

When it comes to members i feel there are a few milestones that are tough as hell to reach.
First 1000 members are a bitch.
Then 2000 is tougher than you'd think. Not tougher than 1000 but still challenging.
Then it's 5000.

After 5000 I've felt every 5000 after that is still challenging.
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yes shap provided great feedback
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:32 AM   #13
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Alot of GFY will tell you 7000 members is peanuts. Don't listen to them. Anybody who has 7000 members is doing well. 7000 * $30 = $210,000 a month. That is really good.

When it comes to members i feel there are a few milestones that are tough as hell to reach.
First 1000 members are a bitch.
Then 2000 is tougher than you'd think. Not tougher than 1000 but still challenging.
Then it's 5000.

After 5000 I've felt every 5000 after that is still challenging.
Perfectly said bro!
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:35 AM   #15
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That is a shitload of members...
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That's a shitload of members. Hell, even if you only charged $1 a month, that's still $7K a month.
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If your the owner, you dont have to pay your models a ton. And you Keep your hosting bills low, and have no employees. Yes. Your doing well.
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Alot of GFY will tell you 7000 members is peanuts. Don't listen to them. Anybody who has 7000 members is doing well. 7000 * $30 = $210,000 a month. That is really good.

When it comes to members i feel there are a few milestones that are tough as hell to reach.
First 1000 members are a bitch.
Then 2000 is tougher than you'd think. Not tougher than 1000 but still challenging.
Then it's 5000.

After 5000 I've felt every 5000 after that is still challenging.
Couldn't have said it better, except that the 5k marks seem to double in difficulty, but can be done...
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:32 PM   #21
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bumping a biz thread, all this drama today makes me sick.
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:35 PM   #22
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if a single site has 7k members is that a lot of members compared to what most sites have?
If you own the site and have half that number of members, you can live very, very nicely off that.
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especially if there are no affiliates,thats a bunch of profit.
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A single site with 7000 active members. I would like to see that...Our extreme amateur site has an alexa ranking around 5000, been online for 5 years, converts and retains like a mofo and we have nowhere near 7000 active members...
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:15 AM   #26
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A single site with 7000 active members. I would like to see that...Our extreme amateur site has an alexa ranking around 5000, been online for 5 years, converts and retains like a mofo and we have nowhere near 7000 active members...
5 years is a very long time. Pretty good Alexa ranking as well.
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7k members is pretty good $$... but it could be $14.95/month memberships, with 60&#37; going to affiliates... - hosting/models/etc expenses... still pretty good money, but not spectacular...
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7k active with full memberships is pretty fucking good
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which site?

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7000 members for a normal paysite is really good... 7000 members to a site that has free or 1$ trials would suck (because thats allot of people sucking down bandwidth for nothing).


But alexa rankings and the number of members dont mean allot... the only thing that matters, is what you take home - your money. If you have 7000 members, but only get to keep (say) $5000 a month and someone else has 3000 but gets to keep (say) $30,000 a month.... the only numbers that mean anything are what you take home.
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That is a kick ass number. Congrats.
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7k members is a preety good number! Congratz

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7000 members for a normal paysite is really good... 7000 members to a site that has free or 1$ trials would suck (because thats allot of people sucking down bandwidth for nothing).


But alexa rankings and the number of members dont mean allot... the only thing that matters, is what you take home - your money. If you have 7000 members, but only get to keep (say) $5000 a month and someone else has 3000 but gets to keep (say) $30,000 a month.... the only numbers that mean anything are what you take home.
Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.
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Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.
do people still listen to anything you have to say?
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it's a lot, +1000 retention is coming into play, no retention goodluck getting over 1000 members
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Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.

Who in their right mind would charge $2 a month
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do people still listen to anything you have to say?


Or as Paul would do...

do people listen to things that come out of your mouth still Paul?
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if a single site has 7k members is that a lot of members compared to what most sites have?
nah thats a little bit, most paysites have 2,000,000 active members
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A retarded photographer that thinks like a surfer...
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Even better than Shaps advice, sorry Shap I still love you though.

7000 members @ $2 a month brings in $14,000 a month. Upsells and cross sells with a bit of advertising will cover ALL your costs and might make a bit of a profit. $14,000 a month income.

7000 member @ $30 from affiliates might make you even less. Might make you more but not a lot more.

Traffic is the easiest thing in the world to get, easier than content

Making a profit is a bitch.

My figures are an example to illustrate the point.
This could be borderline the most idiotic, nonsensical pile of dog shit I have ever read on GFY. You sir, are a complete idiot.
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I said my figures were to illustrate the point, but the morons had to jump in. If I read right a lot of people are scared at losing traffic to sites giving it away, so maybe $2 is an option. I said maybe.

And it's a better option than dreaming about closing down Tube sites.

Who charges $2, PPV do.

Take off the blinkers and think a bit harder.

$2 a month with a limit of 10 videos to view. Make is so the $2 charge can be topped up anytime for another 10 videos. So maybe the eventual spend is $4 on average. Maybe it's $40, depends on how good your site is.

Maybe $30 is the figure chiseled into the rocks floating around some of your heads. It's not floating around the buyers head. And please don't tell me "Traffic" go find the affiliate program on the Tube sites.
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