The Best Video Formats? - GoFuckYourself.com

MarkTiarra · 08-17-2006, 06:53 PM

I've been having quite a few clients lately asking about video delivery methods so I figured I'd make this nice little page so I don't have to answer the same question 5 times a week. =]

After constant tweaking and upgrading and re-tweaking and research on what is selling/retaining... this is the convention we are currently going with. I'm sure there are 100 other opinions out there but this is what has show the best numerical results for our sample data. I hope you find it useful. I'm sure the discussion and other opinions on here will be just as enlightening as the sample.

http://guaranteeddesigns.com/promotools/boards/vid/

stickyfingerz · 08-17-2006, 06:56 PM

Excellent Mark. This has been a hot topic as of late. Going to give it a read now.

Jace · 08-17-2006, 06:57 PM

damn dude, thanks for the shiznit

stickyfingerz · 08-17-2006, 06:58 PM

Btw have you seen anything on the newest real format? I have a few downloaded cough cough movies in the new real format that are around 200mb, and the quality matches or exceeds that of .wmv and .mpg. Ive got some mp4 that is also amazing quality vs size.

Oh the real extension is .rmvb

MarkTiarra · 08-17-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Btw have you seen anything on the newest real format? I have a few downloaded cough cough movies in the new real format that are around 200mb, and the quality matches or exceeds that of .wmv and .mpg. Ive got some mp4 that is also amazing quality vs size.

Haven't seen the new Real yet. We reevaluate every 4 months or so as formats come out and the like. WMV has consistently had the best quality for size amazingly enough. The other thing to consider is how widespread the format is.

MarkTiarra · 08-17-2006, 11:47 PM

::bump:: For the late night crowd.

jact · 08-18-2006, 12:05 AM

Thanks for the page Mark, I've been trying to find something to back up my opinions and this will do nicely. Mind if I hit you up in the near future to discuss FLV a little more in depth? Would greatly appreciate it.

MarkTiarra · 08-18-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jact

Thanks for the page Mark, I've been trying to find something to back up my opinions and this will do nicely. Mind if I hit you up in the near future to discuss FLV a little more in depth? Would greatly appreciate it.

Any time buddy, any time!

NoWhErE · 08-18-2006, 12:11 AM

Hey as long as it works for ya, even though u have the Sorenson Watermarks all over it

MarkTiarra · 08-18-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Hey as long as it works for ya, even though u have the Sorenson Watermarks all over it

Umm yeah... those aren't on the ones I use final, I was a) giving them their plug and b) too lazy to go down to the office where I have the registered version to finish this page. =]

jonesy · 08-18-2006, 01:23 AM

good shit mark - its good to know others are on the same page and also share ideas, info ect.

good seeing you for a few min at internext

wouldve like to have hung a bit and talked some music - catch you at one of the upcoming shows!

SGS · 08-18-2006, 02:39 AM

Looks good Mark and excellent post. We have used Discreet Cleaner for years to format video but have been thinking of checking out Sorenson for a while. Would be interested to see how they compare.

notabook · 08-18-2006, 03:00 AM

The absolute best vid codecs for quality vs. size would have to be VP7 and H264 in my opinion. H264 is extremely slow but gives you just about the best quality you can get? and VP7 can under most circumstances even outperform H264, but it makes H264 look like a fucking roadrunner. VP7 is probably the slowest codec to encode with. As of now, I?m able to get near-dvd quality at around 190mb per hour of video when using VP7, but it?s just not worth the time it takes to do each video? takes roughly 16 hours per hour of video =\

Of course none of these choices are viable in the porn market, but they are just about the best thing available in my opinion.

pics_manager · 08-18-2006, 03:05 AM

we hav 1280-720 and 4000 kbps WMW - quality id pretty good - you can see examples in our HDv site

LadyMischief · 08-18-2006, 09:36 AM

Bump for the day crew, great post.

The Captain · 08-18-2006, 10:00 AM

I was just trying to decide what to do about this very subject yesterday thanks alot!

Brad Gosse · 08-18-2006, 10:03 AM

Great post and info. I hear good things about Sorenson Squeeze.

We use Compressor on the Mac so we can encode to our render farm of compression machines.

I wish Sorenson offered a clustering option so you can add more machines to increase output.

xcitecash · 08-18-2006, 10:40 AM

great info... one further thing is ...What size would you go for using widescreen ?

MarkTiarra · 08-18-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SGS

Looks good Mark and excellent post. We have used Discreet Cleaner for years to format video but have been thinking of checking out Sorenson for a while. Would be interested to see how they compare.

Cleaner is damn good but it just rips so much slower for me and the quality from SOrenson has matched. I think though Cleaner will let you network render right?

MarkTiarra · 08-18-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xcitecash

great info... one further thing is ...What size would you go for using widescreen ?

That one is 740x408 off my HD cam. I don't think there is any need to go larger than 8xx. Us webmasters know that HD video translated onto a PC doesn' mean nearly as much as it does on TV but that doesn't mean your surfers aren't all wowed by the term and willing to join more readily because you have it.

GUNNER · 08-18-2006, 01:58 PM

man, that's good stuff Mark... good seeing ya again in FL too.

MarkTiarra · 08-19-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GUNNER

man, that's good stuff Mark... good seeing ya again in FL too.

You too man. One of these days I gotta spend some time in Chicago and you can show me some good places to eat. Are there a decent number of webmasters out by you? You are the only one I know of out that way.

BobG · 08-19-2006, 11:48 AM

Good shit Mark.

08-17-2006, 06:53 PM	#1
MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	The Best Video Formats? I've been having quite a few clients lately asking about video delivery methods so I figured I'd make this nice little page so I don't have to answer the same question 5 times a week. =] After constant tweaking and upgrading and re-tweaking and research on what is selling/retaining... this is the convention we are currently going with. I'm sure there are 100 other opinions out there but this is what has show the best numerical results for our sample data. I hope you find it useful. I'm sure the discussion and other opinions on here will be just as enlightening as the sample. http://guaranteeddesigns.com/promotools/boards/vid/ __________________ Retired Pornosticator

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Btw have you seen anything on the newest real format? I have a few downloaded cough cough movies in the new real format that are around 200mb, and the quality matches or exceeds that of .wmv and .mpg. Ive got some mp4 that is also amazing quality vs size. Oh the real extension is .rmvb Last edited by stickyfingerz; 08-17-2006 at 06:59 PM..

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Thanks for the page Mark, I've been trying to find something to back up my opinions and this will do nicely. Mind if I hit you up in the near future to discuss FLV a little more in depth? Would greatly appreciate it. __________________ Free agent

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stickyfingerz Doin fine Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 24,984	Excellent Mark. This has been a hot topic as of late. Going to give it a read now.

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jonesy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,688	good shit mark - its good to know others are on the same page and also share ideas, info ect. good seeing you for a few min at internext wouldve like to have hung a bit and talked some music - catch you at one of the upcoming shows! __________________ . Shooting Bikini Girls

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SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Looks good Mark and excellent post. We have used Discreet Cleaner for years to format video but have been thinking of checking out Sorenson for a while. Would be interested to see how they compare. __________________ See sig...

08-18-2006, 03:00 AM	#13
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	The absolute best vid codecs for quality vs. size would have to be VP7 and H264 in my opinion. H264 is extremely slow but gives you just about the best quality you can get? and VP7 can under most circumstances even outperform H264, but it makes H264 look like a fucking roadrunner. VP7 is probably the slowest codec to encode with. As of now, I?m able to get near-dvd quality at around 190mb per hour of video when using VP7, but it?s just not worth the time it takes to do each video? takes roughly 16 hours per hour of video =\ Of course none of these choices are viable in the porn market, but they are just about the best thing available in my opinion. __________________

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pics_manager Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 37	we hav 1280-720 and 4000 kbps WMW - quality id pretty good - you can see examples in our HDv site __________________ http://picsmasters.com - Photo content http://hdvadultstore.com HD video content

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Brad Gosse Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Carpal Tunnel Posts: 2,616	Great post and info. I hear good things about Sorenson Squeeze. We use Compressor on the Mac so we can encode to our render farm of compression machines. I wish Sorenson offered a clustering option so you can add more machines to increase output. __________________ Free Clipart

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xcitecash Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 801	great info... one further thing is ...What size would you go for using widescreen ?

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GUNNER Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,098	man, that's good stuff Mark... good seeing ya again in FL too. __________________ gunner @tutamail.com 25 years in the jizz biz

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BobG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,274	Good shit Mark.