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*********** is one and most Scammer Website ever. HE SPAMS ALSO in GOFUCKYOURSELF.com
This Bucher guy, spams everybody and redirects them to ***********.
He gets rich from stealing people's money. I know there are MANY People here that were redirected to *********** by Butcher.
I cannot post anymore there because he Banned me from there. The Reason, I asked and said something about the scam he did and why. He banned me, and deleted the Threat Too.

Don't let him eat your money people.
Reply to this Threat and explain what was your story about this.



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*********** con busted I owe him !
FantasyMAN is scamming again.

The board is a con to make people pay for advertisement and scam sponsors and webmasters alike. It is hurting our business and it has to stop now.

We spotted for quite some time this mate TheButcher. In 2 month he knows more about the internet than most of us in 9 years. HE IS NO NEWBEE.

TheButcher and his moderator are posting 99% of the board's messages. Out of 7000 members, less than 50 are active. His fake usernames are all recorded , screen captured and will be made public. All those self-made members have no email address, no signature and no business as they are nicks behind thebutcher. He registers his own usernames, posts with those usernames creating the impression that ***********.com is very active hoping to screw advertisers.

*********** has disabled the following options: members list, members profiles, search options, etc. to hide the information of his self made members. His only memebers are 10-20 well known people from the industry that were fooled by Ron to come post. He never paid out any of the money or contest he runs ( servers, cars, trips, cash money). All the supposed winners are his own usernames so no prize is given away.

The con is this: Ron and Butcher fools people in beleiving the board is second biggest to GFY. Advertisers pay for banners. He makes a guick penny and fame.

I want this board closed and his con reveled. The only question is: WHY IS RON RISKING EVERYTHING FOR THIS SCAM? IS IT REALLY THE FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH THAT HE WILL MAKE FROM SELLING ADVERTISMENT WORTH HIS NAME AND REPUTATION? WHAT'S YOUR POT SHOT ON IT?


peace and profit

This was taken from
http://oprano.com/msgboard/showthrea...&mode=threaded


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*********** owes me $$$ delete my account
http://greenguyandjim.com/board/show...t=15939&page=1
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David aka Thebutcher, NFV deleted my account (sneak on me while he knows im sleeping at night) and make controversy to get rid of me in ***********. Thought i know it will happen after i saw how he treat people on his board i still trusted him.

http://www.***********.com/showthrea...5&page=1&pp=10

either him or one of his people set me up so he doesnt have to pay me. He does that before to spideriux and doing it again to me so watch out for this guy dont ever transact with him or his board.

if you need any info guys i can tell it to you. i been with the board since the beginning and he dumped me just not to pay me. i want his members to know how phony that board is and more than half of its members are thebutchers own nickname.

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FreeHugeMovies

Hasn't this been known for a long time now?

MontrealPimp

potential drama?

pawsregd

Sounds like a smear campaign to me

TheButcher

Listen kid.

I've never done any business with you, you came on my board started pretending you had 250,000 hits for sale at $79 thats where it all started from, I questioned how anyone can have traffic at 31 cents cpm. You tried to bullshit for days and days, finally I got it out of you that you were spamming boards and selling the shit to webmasters ads traffic.

Next I asked you to leave, because you were spamming every thread with this crap, then you asked me to let you back as aHosting2 and then aHostingx I did, you even came on the board said sorry for your shit.

I was trying to be nice to you for the past 3 days and icqed you to buy the traffic and test it out ona new site.

You are a scammer and a cheat, for the record, I have never received a cent from you so shut up.

Here are the 2 threads in question.

http://www.***********.com/showthread.php?t=8304

http://www.***********.com/showthread.php?t=8399

Kevsh

Apparently GFY isn't the only board with lots of drama...

Harley Girl

well... I have to say that i have made a few very decent business trades over at *********** as for everything being a scam - i haven't witnessed anything that would make me believe The Butcher is taking peoples money.

We paid for advertising and got advertising. It was simple.

Our banner is still active on the board. As for the spamming, i can't say for sure that it's true... it's none of my business and frankly i don't care.

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Manowar

you just spam your stuff all day , i dont believe you

MrIzzz

drama ruh roh

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circlekhabib

old news yawn

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can anyone shed any more light on this?
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Greg MissionD

We have advertising on there and we have done business from the board.

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MosesTheTool

Well, since I'm involved in this "situation", I'd like people to hear my side of the story too.

I found out about *********** from ICQ - TheButcher sent me a message telling me about ***********.

I was active on the board for some time, there aren't many people active on that board, same people mostly.

Some time ago I was looking for someone to transfer money from paypal to e-gold for me, since I was active on ***********, I posted a thread saying I'm searching for this service.
Butcher sent me a message on ICQ, saying he can help me, he knows a guy that does these things, and this guy never scammed him and did lots of successful transfers for him.
Then he said "If you want, send me the money and i'll send to him, and it will be my responsibility".
I sent the money to him (325 bucks, 25 were for the commission of the transfers) and he said i'll get 300 bucks to my e-gold in 24 hours.
After 24 hours I failed to get the cash, I asked him about it on ICQ and he said the guy must be still at home, it's early, I should wait.
I waited a few more hours but the money did not come.
I asked him again and he said the guy doesn't answer his emails, and he has no clue what's going on.
After a day, 2, nothing.
He offered to send me from his money, I didn't feel right about taking his money, but then I realized this whole deal smells bad.
I told him I'll accept his money.
He said he'll send me Western Union, after around 24 hours I asked him about it and he said he sent his secretary to do it, but she didn't because of some bullshit reason.
He promised to do it himself, but after alot of bullshit and time I spent on him, I told him to send to my Paypal, he said he has no money on his paypal BLABLA BLABALABLA, alot of bullshitttt, I don' even remember what the bullshit was all about.
After some time I messaged him on ICQ, and got a reply "it's not david, it's..." don't remember what was the name, something like John.
he said he works for David (thebutcher) on weekends or something - checking his mail and posting on his board.
He said he could find my paypal address, so he sent to my email (i had a paypal address on my email, i mean, my email was a paypal account though not verified, i usually used my friends' verified account.)
He sent me an ECHECK.
This smelled bad also, after a few days the ECHECK was cancelled.
This pissed me off so i filed a dispute.
After he cursed and screamed at me about this dispute, he said he'll accept it.
So he did, he accepted the dispute, but they couldn't take money from his account for some reason (paypal is weird).
This pissed me off some more, so i went to his board (and since my username was ofcourse banned from it, for NO REASON WHAT SO EVER!!!) i made a new account with the nick "ButcherThief"), he saw the username i guess and spoke to me about it on ICQ -
He said they froze his account for a week (paypal) to see what they can do to get me my money or something, so he offered to send me epassporte and in return i'll cancel the dispute, i agreed, he sent me epass, but who knows if the epass money was hacked or not, i'm not even sure if his name is David, this is scary!!


By the way, about aHosting, aHosting has many satisfied clients, he wanted to advertise himself on butchers board, but after he failed to do what butcher asked him to (don't remember what it was, it was between them, i think he wanted aHosting to buy advertising or something), he started flaming aHosting saying he's a scam and a cheat, then banned him.
Then he claimed HE DID NOT BAN HIM, and the discussion was about them talkin on ICQ too, so i offered to post their history on the board, i posted it (butcher agreed), and it was deleted, i posted again, and it was deleted, after the third time it was deleted i asked butcher and he said he knows nothing about it.
I posted it like 8 times and it was deleted.


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