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jaYMan · 03-19-2006, 03:58 PM

Who do I have to blow to get pictures of RavenRiley off of your profiles???

I've sent emails out to everyone I thought I knew there that were all nice to me in person and gave me biz cards and promised me this type of thing would never happen on thier watch... and now how many minutes does it take a surfer to see one of our stolen images on your site???

And what REALLY pisses me the fuck off, is that they are your goddamn AD TOOLS that you provide to OTHER webmasters.... so not only are you allowing unlicensed content in the FIRST place, but your providing the images to every fucking webmaster you have....

I found one in less than a minute.

http://www.filecabi.net/video/soldiertwistershake.html reload that page a few times

also do a search on girls from costa rica...

I'll end the rant now, but seriously, WHO do I contact and HOW to get stolen unlicensed material removed from YOUR server?

jaYMan · 03-19-2006, 04:04 PM

ill pay for every screenshot anyone reading this can find of ravenriley or any other girls that AFF doesnt have licenses to use.

Nasty · 03-19-2006, 04:07 PM

Pics not being pulled from aff, being pulled from http://www.filecabi.net/aff/

aff ad is an iframe using java to match aff profiles with local images

iwantchixx · 03-19-2006, 04:08 PM

almost all their GEOip ad materials are unlisceneced pics.

Pretty mch 90% of the pics in their GEOip ads are stolen pics. There's no way it's the "users" uploading the pics either because the pics are all handpicked to be used on display. Sure some of the profile names and locations are real, but the pics that match them are not.

Lace · 03-19-2006, 04:09 PM

LOL...Fuck AFF....Period.

andrej_NDC · 03-19-2006, 04:10 PM

see sig...

nothing surprise me about AFF btw

Love Sex · 03-19-2006, 04:11 PM

she is also on many other dating sites

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

Pics not being pulled from aff, being pulled from http://www.filecabi.net/aff/

aff ad is an iframe using java to match aff profiles with local images

That's right the pictures are not on our servers. http://www.filecabi.net/aff/49.jpg

I will contact the affiliate and have him remove unlicensed images.

jaYMan · 03-19-2006, 04:14 PM

Sagi, how do I prevent this in the future?

I mean its really gotten bad in the past week or so, I've got tons of msgs about this, and I obviously have the wrong contact info for ya, cuz I thuoght for sure you would have taken care of my initial request without me having to act like a lunatic on the boards.

I think shutting down thier account and forwarding me thier check would be the right thing to do in this case, not a warning saying dont do that.

They fucking KNOW not to do that.

RawAlex · 03-19-2006, 04:17 PM

Sagi, I have to say that your answer is a bit soft. Think about it:

The affiliate has lied to the public, sold memberships with fraudulent information, mislead the public, and you will just asking him to "take down that picture"?

It seems to me that Jayman is right here... shut down the account, stop paying them, and perhaps even forward the money to Jayman for the misuse of the images. I honestly wonder what the public would think if they knew.

Alex

djroof · 03-19-2006, 04:19 PM

many sponsors has the same problem, like Medium Pimpin with Crissy Moran pics!

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 04:21 PM

Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.

sonofsam · 03-19-2006, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

That's right the pictures are not on our servers. http://www.filecabi.net/aff/49.jpg

I will contact the affiliate and have him remove unlicensed images.

Why don't you cut the bullshit?

You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

kudos to you guys!

Brujah · 03-19-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.

He should stick to the sponsors who are PAYING people who do it. Terminate their accounts first, so that they don't get paid.

Alphonso · 03-19-2006, 04:27 PM

i dated raven riley

jaYMan · 03-19-2006, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadglni

Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade.

i don't have to, raven's fans do it for us...

We work with myspace's attorneys everyday, at least they comply and respond to removing our trademarked property.

I didn't even get a responce outta AFF, and I also assumed they were hosting the ADTOOLS. I was wrong, they aren't the thieves, I know that now, but they are paying them... so I still have an issue. They are profiting from stolen content, just as bad.

Any fake myspace's I can have down within 24 hours and redirected to our real one. With AFF, I didn't seem to get anywhere at all, until I went nuts on the board.

WiredGuy · 03-19-2006, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

As a webmaster though, I'd prefer using my own images (or selecting from a specific number of images to serve). It makes it easier to market to my audience. At the same time, its definitely easy to abuse but like Sagi said, he will contact the webmaster to take it down. There is no easy solution to fixing this problem and offering webmasters the ability to use their own images.
WG

sonofsam · 03-19-2006, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

As a webmaster though, I'd prefer using my own images (or selecting from a specific number of images to serve). It makes it easier to market to my audience. At the same time, its definitely easy to abuse but like Sagi said, he will contact the webmaster to take it down. There is no easy solution to fixing this problem and offering webmasters the ability to use their own images.
WG

Who cares how hard it is for AFF to fix?

That's like saying, it's hard for GUBA to look through all their user submitted content to see if they have any stolen content... like the Paris hilton sex tape for example...

if it's too hard, then remove that feature... it's not jaymans or any other content owners responsibility to have to look for their content on their system and spend time and resources having it removed.

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

Why don't you cut the bullshit?

You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

kudos to you guys!

He can't cut the bullshit or they'll have a huge backlash on GFY. Also, if everything was "taken care of" the way many here want the adult industry as we know it would pretty much collapse. Some things are better left "unknown".

RawAlex · 03-19-2006, 04:40 PM

No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

Alex

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

Alex

You disregarded the "as we know it". And yes, with all of the shit people take serious offense to this industry would be making far less money / therefore less money to go around. Doesn't matter if it's different people or not, less money is less money.

Brujah · 03-19-2006, 04:49 PM

chadglni, what exactly are you saying? because it sounds like you're saying you support content theft, or stealing as long as it'll make you a $1 at the end of the day.

Love Sex · 03-19-2006, 04:50 PM

sonofsam some chick just sent me a julia blue pic off my space

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah

chadglni, what exactly are you saying? because it sounds like you're saying you support content theft, or stealing as long as it'll make you a $1 at the end of the day.

Why does everyone twist shit here? Where exactly did I say I support anything, just curious?

sonofsam · 03-19-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Sex

sonofsam some chick just sent me a julia blue pic off my space

so long as it's watermarked.. i don't care

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

Why don't you cut the bullshit?

You guys have the system designed specifically like this, so that people can do this and in turn send you more clicks

you guys like to pretend you care by saying "we will contact the affiliate and have him remove that"

but in all reality, you know that only 1 pic out of every 1000 stolen pictures promoting you guys will be reported.. so you leave things the way they are, all the while pretending you guys actually care..

i've seen so many pictures of katesplayground,ravenriley etc etc all over your ads...

theres a reason fusker was a huge AFF affiliate for so long. cause they don't care

kudos to you guys!

We don't we provide a system for affiliates to use our real members. If they choose to use model photos (from our system that we have rights to) it comes with a disclaimer. This affiliate is using javascript code to replace our images with his own selected ones.

KMR Stitch · 03-19-2006, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner.

Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door.

Alex

Do you know whats in your sig?

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaYMan

Sagi, how do I prevent this in the future?

I mean its really gotten bad in the past week or so, I've got tons of msgs about this, and I obviously have the wrong contact info for ya, cuz I thuoght for sure you would have taken care of my initial request without me having to act like a lunatic on the boards.

I think shutting down thier account and forwarding me thier check would be the right thing to do in this case, not a warning saying dont do that.

They fucking KNOW not to do that.

He won't do it again because his account will be gone if this repeats.

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMR Stitch

Do you know whats in your sig?

lol shhhhhhhh

jaYMan · 03-19-2006, 04:59 PM

So if *I* catch him again, and if *I* find him using *OUR* content, and then if *I* msg you, he won't have an account and youll be able to not have to pay him.

*shakes head*

I don't get it man, sorry. Will you disclose to me his identity so I can pass it to my attorney?

Lace · 03-19-2006, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

This affiliate is using javascript code to replace our images with his own selected ones.

That YOU provide.

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace

That YOU provide.

absolutely untrue. we provide the javascript code for the geo targeting not the code that replaces the images.

chadglni · 03-19-2006, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lace

That YOU provide.

So guilty by association?

Lace · 03-19-2006, 05:05 PM

Yeah, whatever. I don't even care....

and when do you plan on shutting down my acct? Ive only asked 10 times now....# - 461447

RawAlex · 03-19-2006, 05:06 PM

Sagi, would not using the "replace image" script be a violation of your terms because it makes fake member profiles? False advertising and all... knowingly paying affiliates that are misleading the public seems like a pretty weird place for a business to hang it's hat.

Alex

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Sagi, would not using the "replace image" script be a violation of your terms because it makes fake member profiles? False advertising and all... knowingly paying affiliates that are misleading the public seems like a pretty weird place for a business to hang it's hat.

Alex

We've actually been dealing with this recently. I've been having affiliates place disclaimers when using images that are not our real members. I will also be including a note in our April newsletter to get the word out.

Penthouse Tony · 03-19-2006, 05:31 PM

I've spoken with JaYMan and the affiliate. I beleive they both spoke as well. The image is already pulled and he'll be switching to using just our ads that use a disclaimer and images we have rights to.

hopefully this case is closed and I can go back to enjoying my Sunday afternoon

SmokeyTheBear · 03-19-2006, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

He won't do it again because his account will be gone if this repeats.

see new thread , they just got busted for using lightspeed content , you need to can people like this before it sets an example for other file upload sites

SmokeyTheBear · 03-19-2006, 05:58 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=588492

Well he had his warning , this should be his strike3

Joesho · 03-19-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagi_AFF

I've spoken with JaYMan and the affiliate. I beleive they both spoke as well. The image is already pulled and he'll be switching to using just our ads that use a disclaimer and images we have rights to.

hopefully this case is closed and I can go back to enjoying my Sunday afternoon

this case may be closed, but we send out at least three C and D a week, and DMCA notices for the same bullshit .

and we always got the same answear when we asked too.

is there not a way you guys can stop this ?

lush_life · 03-19-2006, 06:08 PM

filecabi = owned... now they are not going to be able to afford thier bandwidth

Wiggles · 03-19-2006, 06:18 PM

its easy to use custom pics with a script, thats what alot of people are doing.

sfera · 03-19-2006, 06:26 PM

wow this is a big shit storm, I would be pissed off like jayman if someone else was profiting off my investment. I think AFF should monitor their own affiates and no leave it up to other ppl (like jayman) to find them and then bitch you out. my 2c

RawAlex · 03-19-2006, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiggles

its easy to use custom pics with a script, thats what alot of people are doing.

Yup, and the problem is for AFF that this means that the advertising for thier site is, well, not entirely honest. That could cause issues that have nothing to do with chat boards of DMCA paper.

Sort of like all those "85% of members get laid" spams. It isn't honestly, it isn't true... misleading advertising.

Alex

Scootermuze · 03-19-2006, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Yup, and the problem is for AFF that this means that the advertising for thier site is, well, not entirely honest. That could cause issues that have nothing to do with chat boards of DMCA paper.

Sort of like all those "85% of members get laid" spams. It isn't honestly, it isn't true... misleading advertising.

Alex

All of the geotarget ads are misleading when a photo is used... Never the photo of the person whose profile shows... And a few times there has been the same photo with different profiles on the multi-profile banners... kinda funny

sonofsam · 03-19-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesho

this case may be closed, but we send out at least three C and D a week, and DMCA notices for the same bullshit .

and we always got the same answear when we asked too.

is there not a way you guys can stop this ?

of course there is a way

it's just that they don't want to give up the extra money they make from people using stolen content to send traffic to AFF

fr0gman · 03-19-2006, 08:00 PM

They also show up on my DatingGold GEOIP ads. I noticed that today as well as MelissaMidwest.

DBS.US · 03-19-2006, 08:09 PM

This sucks

http://search.myspace.com/Name=raven+riley
http://search.myspace.com/DisplayName=raven+riley

03-19-2006, 03:58 PM	#1
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	AdultFriendFinder.... WTF. Who do I have to blow to get pictures of RavenRiley off of your profiles??? I've sent emails out to everyone I thought I knew there that were all nice to me in person and gave me biz cards and promised me this type of thing would never happen on thier watch... and now how many minutes does it take a surfer to see one of our stolen images on your site??? And what REALLY pisses me the fuck off, is that they are your goddamn AD TOOLS that you provide to OTHER webmasters.... so not only are you allowing unlicensed content in the FIRST place, but your providing the images to every fucking webmaster you have.... I found one in less than a minute. http://www.filecabi.net/video/soldiertwistershake.html reload that page a few times also do a search on girls from costa rica... I'll end the rant now, but seriously, WHO do I contact and HOW to get stolen unlicensed material removed from YOUR server? __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

03-19-2006, 04:04 PM	#2
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	ill pay for every screenshot anyone reading this can find of ravenriley or any other girls that AFF doesnt have licenses to use. __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

03-19-2006, 04:07 PM	#3
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	Pics not being pulled from aff, being pulled from http://www.filecabi.net/aff/ aff ad is an iframe using java to match aff profiles with local images __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

03-19-2006, 04:09 PM	#5
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	LOL...Fuck AFF....Period. __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

03-19-2006, 04:14 PM	#9
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	Sagi, how do I prevent this in the future? I mean its really gotten bad in the past week or so, I've got tons of msgs about this, and I obviously have the wrong contact info for ya, cuz I thuoght for sure you would have taken care of my initial request without me having to act like a lunatic on the boards. I think shutting down thier account and forwarding me thier check would be the right thing to do in this case, not a warning saying dont do that. They fucking KNOW not to do that. __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

03-19-2006, 04:08 PM	#4
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	almost all their GEOip ad materials are unlisceneced pics. Pretty mch 90% of the pics in their GEOip ads are stolen pics. There's no way it's the "users" uploading the pics either because the pics are all handpicked to be used on display. Sure some of the profile names and locations are real, but the pics that match them are not.

03-19-2006, 04:10 PM	#6
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	see sig... nothing surprise me about AFF btw

03-19-2006, 04:11 PM	#7
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	she is also on many other dating sites

03-19-2006, 04:17 PM	#10
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Sagi, I have to say that your answer is a bit soft. Think about it: The affiliate has lied to the public, sold memberships with fraudulent information, mislead the public, and you will just asking him to "take down that picture"? It seems to me that Jayman is right here... shut down the account, stop paying them, and perhaps even forward the money to Jayman for the misuse of the images. I honestly wonder what the public would think if they knew. Alex

03-19-2006, 04:19 PM	#11
djroof JuicyDevils.gr Owner Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Greece Posts: 25,405	many sponsors has the same problem, like Medium Pimpin with Crissy Moran pics!

03-19-2006, 04:21 PM	#12
chadglni Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: PEI, Canada Posts: 6,924	Raven is on about 500000 myspace profiles too. Be sure to message all of them while you're on your crusade. __________________ Sign up here - Dating Site affiliate program

03-19-2006, 04:27 PM	#15
Alphonso Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: FARM Posts: 544	i dated raven riley __________________ MEOWWWWW

03-19-2006, 04:40 PM	#20
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	No, the adult industry as we know it wouldn't collapse, it would just be different people making the money in a more honest manner. Fake profiles and misleading ads are a way to get the FTC knocking on the door. Alex

03-19-2006, 04:49 PM	#22
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	chadglni, what exactly are you saying? because it sounds like you're saying you support content theft, or stealing as long as it'll make you a $1 at the end of the day. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

03-19-2006, 04:50 PM	#23
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	sonofsam some chick just sent me a julia blue pic off my space

03-19-2006, 04:59 PM	#30
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	So if I catch him again, and if I find him using OUR content, and then if I msg you, he won't have an account and youll be able to not have to pay him. shakes head I don't get it man, sorry. Will you disclose to me his identity so I can pass it to my attorney? __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

03-19-2006, 05:05 PM	#34
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	Yeah, whatever. I don't even care.... and when do you plan on shutting down my acct? Ive only asked 10 times now....# - 461447 __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

03-19-2006, 05:06 PM	#35
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	Sagi, would not using the "replace image" script be a violation of your terms because it makes fake member profiles? False advertising and all... knowingly paying affiliates that are misleading the public seems like a pretty weird place for a business to hang it's hat. Alex

03-19-2006, 05:31 PM	#37
Penthouse Tony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 5,835	I've spoken with JaYMan and the affiliate. I beleive they both spoke as well. The image is already pulled and he'll be switching to using just our ads that use a disclaimer and images we have rights to. hopefully this case is closed and I can go back to enjoying my Sunday afternoon __________________ aamos AT FFN dot com Penthouse.com Business Development ICQ: 49090846 \| Yahoo IM: ff_aamos

03-19-2006, 05:58 PM	#39
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=588492 Well he had his warning , this should be his strike3 __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

03-19-2006, 06:08 PM	#41
lush_life Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 237	filecabi = owned... now they are not going to be able to afford thier bandwidth

03-19-2006, 06:18 PM	#42
Wiggles Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 14,423	its easy to use custom pics with a script, thats what alot of people are doing. __________________ no sig

03-19-2006, 06:26 PM	#43
sfera Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 248877409 Posts: 8,597	wow this is a big shit storm, I would be pissed off like jayman if someone else was profiting off my investment. I think AFF should monitor their own affiates and no leave it up to other ppl (like jayman) to find them and then bitch you out. my 2c

03-19-2006, 08:00 PM	#47
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03-19-2006, 08:09 PM	#48
DBS.US Geo Cities Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Captiva Island, Florida USA Posts: 11,834	This sucks http://search.myspace.com/Name=raven+riley http://search.myspace.com/DisplayName=raven+riley __________________ Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site in 34 minutes and be making money tonight