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Old 03-16-2006, 03:19 PM   #1
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Walters? Picconelli? WTF Are You ?

I don't see either of you fucks lining up to put a stop to this shit you say CAN'T happen..Were are you?

And you wonder why most people would rather tell people they have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother who is an attorney.


Porn Valley- The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) is opposed to legislation introduced March 15 by Senators Max Baucus [pictured] (D-Mont) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark) that would ghettoize content-based speech on the Internet by creating a mandatory .xxx top-level domain.

The bill, titled the "Cyber Safety for Kids Act of 2006," requires the Department of Commerce within 30 days after enactment to direct ICANN to approve a top-level "international" domain for "material that is harmful to minors, such as [a] domain name ending in .xxx," and establishes a timeline of 60 days for ICANN to "commence and complete" the application process for the establishment of the new domain.

Within 6 months of the establishment of the TLD, all adult websites are required to register a .xxx address if they contain sexually explicit material that conforms with the definition of "material that is harmful to minors" as defined in the bill, with civil penalties for lack of compliance. The Department of Commerce is also tasked with setting and enforcing the civil penalties.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:38 PM   #2
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Why blame a lawyer for legislation? Write your senator or congressperson. Lawyers can't do anything until and if it becomes a law.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:48 PM   #3
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:50 PM   #4
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oh shit is that just for US sites or what ?
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:51 PM   #5
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I like that. 'I Don't Know.' That's nice.
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Old 03-16-2006, 04:21 PM   #6
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I don't see either of you fucks lining up to put a stop to this shit you say CAN'T happen..Were are you?

And you wonder why most people would rather tell people they have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother who is an attorney.


Porn Valley- The Free Speech Coalition (FSC) is opposed to legislation introduced March 15 by Senators Max Baucus [pictured] (D-Mont) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark) that would ghettoize content-based speech on the Internet by creating a mandatory .xxx top-level domain.

The bill, titled the "Cyber Safety for Kids Act of 2006," requires the Department of Commerce within 30 days after enactment to direct ICANN to approve a top-level "international" domain for "material that is harmful to minors, such as [a] domain name ending in .xxx," and establishes a timeline of 60 days for ICANN to "commence and complete" the application process for the establishment of the new domain.

Within 6 months of the establishment of the TLD, all adult websites are required to register a .xxx address if they contain sexually explicit material that conforms with the definition of "material that is harmful to minors" as defined in the bill, with civil penalties for lack of compliance. The Department of Commerce is also tasked with setting and enforcing the civil penalties.
It never ends, does it??

Comment!! Firstly, ICANN remains a contractor for the US Dept of Defense. Why this situation still remains is beyond belief. There are currently moves by other nations to have the equivalent of ICANN set up within a neutral jurisdiction and have full representation from all countries who have TLD's.

The US Dept of Commerce requiring what should in fact be an international org, to produce a XXX TLD along with the accompaying requirements, is simply insane.

Domains operational outside US jurisdiction are not obliged to conform to the laws of the US in the first instance - they abide by the laws of the country in which they operate.

For the reasons you obviously posted Mike, - this is not a proposal which is good for US webmasters. It is also very ill-conceived and leaves doubt about the Senators who introduced this proposed legislation - it is transaparency clear they have little clue about background implications, tho it may have been done with good intentions. It takes more than just good intentions.
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Old 03-16-2006, 04:30 PM   #7
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Old 03-16-2006, 04:31 PM   #8
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watching our government work reminds me of the time me and my brothers at age 6 got into my grandfathers car and accidentally put the car in neutral, coasted down the hill taking everything out that was in our path, and smashed into the neighbors house at the bottom of the hill.

yup, that pretty much sums up how they are driving the country at this point.
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Old 03-16-2006, 04:33 PM   #9
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i thought bush was against this?
what has changed? are the same peopel behind this?
Walters never said .xxx was bad.. he was actually a proponent i believe.

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Old 03-16-2006, 06:33 PM   #10
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i thought bush was against this?
what has changed? are the same peopel behind this?
Walters never said .xxx was bad.. he was actually a proponent i believe.

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Thats my point...he was a proponent and two years ago at an internext forum in Miami on this topic I stood up and addressed both these guys saying what would stop the government from doing EXACTLY this if .XXX is approved.

Both those cocksuckers, Walters and Picconelli addressed me as though I was some half wit, saying that would not be possible.

Only J D Obenberger took me seriously

So again Picconelli and Walters...where the fuck are you two assholes NOW.
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Old 03-16-2006, 07:15 PM   #11
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Thats my point...he was a proponent and two years ago at an internext forum in Miami on this topic I stood up and addressed both these guys saying what would stop the government from doing EXACTLY this if .XXX is approved.

Both those cocksuckers, Walters and Picconelli addressed me as though I was some half wit, saying that would not be possible.

Only J D Obenberger took me seriously

So again Picconelli and Walters...where the fuck are you two assholes NOW.

A comment from them would be nice.

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walters wrote a letter to icann endorsing .xxx, how people use him amazes me lol
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walters wrote a letter to icann endorsing .xxx, how people use him amazes me lol
i still think dumas's letter takes the cake

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Here it is :
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00003.html
also here is the one from joan
http://forum.icann.org/lists/stld-rfp-xxx/msg00061.html

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Old 03-16-2006, 09:27 PM   #15
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watching our government work reminds me of the time me and my brothers at age 6 got into my grandfathers car and accidentally put the car in neutral, coasted down the hill taking everything out that was in our path, and smashed into the neighbors house at the bottom of the hill.

yup, that pretty much sums up how they are driving the country at this point.
actually there is someone behind that wheel and theyre purposely driving like that.
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Old 03-17-2006, 12:33 AM   #16
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come Larry I know you are in here

show some fucking stones for once in your miserable life...lets hear you either say I was wrong or defend yourself
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Bump one last time...Come on guys show me you have a fucking shred of dignity.
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Bump one last time...Come on guys show me you have a fucking shred of dignity.
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They won't even defend themselves against me...Why would anyone here hire them to defend YOU against someone who really does have power...ie The government.
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show some fucking stones for once in your miserable life...lets hear you either say I was wrong or defend yourself

Hair appointment??

lol

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Hmm... I would also like to hear what they have to say about this.
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Problem with .xxx is when Visa and Mastercard make you change from .com to .xxx in order to process with them. The BIGGER problem will be if someone else grabbed your .xxx domain name.
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If this actually passes and becomes mandatory ..... this will screw anyone in the US with domains that they have built up over the years and gained a strong standing in the major search engines. It will be like starting from zero all over again.
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If this actually passes and becomes mandatory ..... this will screw anyone in the US with domains that they have built up over the years and gained a strong standing in the major search engines. It will be like starting from zero all over again.
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