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E-Randy · 06-23-2005, 04:11 PM

FSC is performing a valuable service for the industry. Paying $300 or more is nothing compared to the thousands a single entity would pay in legal fees to fight something like this. It's power in numbers and it is everyone's responsibility to contribute to the FSC. Not only to protect yourself from unjust laws but to send a message to the goverment that we will not sit around and be trampled on like crooks. We are legitimate business owners and we have rights that MUST be respected by the government, regardless of their personal religious views.

KRosh is right, this law affects EVERYONE, not just U.S. webmasters. Foreign companies will see a short term increase in their revenues if the law is proved valid, due to many U.S. companies shutting their doors because their are unable to comply. But they will lose in the long run as they will see less revenue due to an overall shrinkage in the market.

Does it really matter if the FSC gets richer from this scenario? It can only benefit the industry as a whole since we will finally have a unified organization that will be able to boost lobbying efforts and further protect us from these type of shady laws. It's time for the industry to think in a more progressive manner rather than the "how quickly can I make X dollars and get the fuck out" attitude. This industry is still in it's infancy has much more room to grow, however, this will not happen if we do not battle the forces that try to suppress our right to choose our own lifestyles. The right wing is trying to force it's "morals and values" upon the rest of the country and they are working VERY hard at it. We need to work equally hard to repel their attacks by sticking together under one organization. I believe the FSC is that organization.

For the debaters, NO, I have no affiliation to the FSC, except as being their member. I just can't stand being put in a position by the government that makes me "Guilty until proven Innocent." That's bullshit!

Nuff Said!

2HousePlague · 06-23-2005, 04:17 PM

Absolutely.

And, considered in a line-up among the various other groups and organizations "in position" to take up the mantle of Adult, the FSC ain't a bad choice --

2HP

Just_Dave · 06-23-2005, 05:25 PM

very well said

Redrob · 06-23-2005, 05:27 PM

FSC is pleased to announce that all membership and litigation contributions can be processed over the telephone as of 6:00 am Pacific Time Friday morning, June 24, 2005, through 2:00 pm, Saturday, June 25, 2005. Call 800.681.0403. Credit cards will be processed over the telephone.

my2257 · 06-23-2005, 09:35 PM

The FSC has gone to bat for this industry and everyone who is NOT a member many times over the years. I am surprised that ANYONE would complain about their member ship cost.

One hour with a qualified First Amendment Attorney will run you $250 - $400.
Imagine how many hours it will take to defend your case if you were ever indicted on 18USC2257 Non-Compliance charges. I am sure it would be substantially more than one hour.

We have been dealing with Intellectual Property, Corporate and First Amendment Attorneys on a daily basis for well over a year now on the development of our my2257 software and I know how fast hourly rates add up even at 15 minutes a phone call.

For us to pay FSC $1,150 to register our two companies and three members as individuals is a drop in the hat compared to the legal fees of not being a member.

Most of these individuals and Attorneys believe fully in what they are doing and the services they are offering to the Adult Entertainment Industry and I can assure you they are not getting compensated their "normal" billing rates.

Many are not getting the appreciation and respect they deserve for their services to us ALL. I believe we all owe them a debt of gratitude for without them where would a few of us in the industry be tonight?

Anyone that believes these recent 2257 regulations will simply go away or that they need not comply is committing business suicide. Even if this latest version is over turned does anyone NOT expect Congress to get evolved like they did in creating COPA? COPA was approved by Congress a mere 6 months after the Courts ruled against the Department of Justices first regulations. Granted it was eventually over turned by the courts then, but political climates are drastically different now.

NOT organizing your records makes as much since to me as NOT joining the Free Speech Collation before Saturday.

Zug · 06-23-2005, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redrob

FSC is pleased to announce that all membership and litigation contributions can be processed over the telephone as of 6:00 am Pacific Time Friday morning, June 24, 2005, through 2:00 pm, Saturday, June 25, 2005. Call 800.681.0403. Credit cards will be processed over the telephone.

Its Golden Information

Thank-You!

06-23-2005, 04:11 PM	#1
E-Randy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 176	2257 / FSC / Industry's future FSC is performing a valuable service for the industry. Paying $300 or more is nothing compared to the thousands a single entity would pay in legal fees to fight something like this. It's power in numbers and it is everyone's responsibility to contribute to the FSC. Not only to protect yourself from unjust laws but to send a message to the goverment that we will not sit around and be trampled on like crooks. We are legitimate business owners and we have rights that MUST be respected by the government, regardless of their personal religious views. KRosh is right, this law affects EVERYONE, not just U.S. webmasters. Foreign companies will see a short term increase in their revenues if the law is proved valid, due to many U.S. companies shutting their doors because their are unable to comply. But they will lose in the long run as they will see less revenue due to an overall shrinkage in the market. Does it really matter if the FSC gets richer from this scenario? It can only benefit the industry as a whole since we will finally have a unified organization that will be able to boost lobbying efforts and further protect us from these type of shady laws. It's time for the industry to think in a more progressive manner rather than the "how quickly can I make X dollars and get the fuck out" attitude. This industry is still in it's infancy has much more room to grow, however, this will not happen if we do not battle the forces that try to suppress our right to choose our own lifestyles. The right wing is trying to force it's "morals and values" upon the rest of the country and they are working VERY hard at it. We need to work equally hard to repel their attacks by sticking together under one organization. I believe the FSC is that organization. For the debaters, NO, I have no affiliation to the FSC, except as being their member. I just can't stand being put in a position by the government that makes me "Guilty until proven Innocent." That's bullshit! Nuff Said! __________________ ElectraContent.com 31 KICK ASS plugin products for $399! Massive Rods, College Girls, Panties, Lesbians, Toys and dildos, Dirty Blondes, Petite, Interracial, Sexy Housewives........

06-23-2005, 04:17 PM	#2
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	Absolutely. And, considered in a line-up among the various other groups and organizations "in position" to take up the mantle of Adult, the FSC ain't a bad choice -- 2HP __________________ tada!

06-23-2005, 09:35 PM	#5
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Couldn't agree more! The FSC has gone to bat for this industry and everyone who is NOT a member many times over the years. I am surprised that ANYONE would complain about their member ship cost. One hour with a qualified First Amendment Attorney will run you $250 - $400. Imagine how many hours it will take to defend your case if you were ever indicted on 18USC2257 Non-Compliance charges. I am sure it would be substantially more than one hour. We have been dealing with Intellectual Property, Corporate and First Amendment Attorneys on a daily basis for well over a year now on the development of our my2257 software and I know how fast hourly rates add up even at 15 minutes a phone call. For us to pay FSC $1,150 to register our two companies and three members as individuals is a drop in the hat compared to the legal fees of not being a member. Most of these individuals and Attorneys believe fully in what they are doing and the services they are offering to the Adult Entertainment Industry and I can assure you they are not getting compensated their "normal" billing rates. Many are not getting the appreciation and respect they deserve for their services to us ALL. I believe we all owe them a debt of gratitude for without them where would a few of us in the industry be tonight? Anyone that believes these recent 2257 regulations will simply go away or that they need not comply is committing business suicide. Even if this latest version is over turned does anyone NOT expect Congress to get evolved like they did in creating COPA? COPA was approved by Congress a mere 6 months after the Courts ruled against the Department of Justices first regulations. Granted it was eventually over turned by the courts then, but political climates are drastically different now. NOT organizing your records makes as much since to me as NOT joining the Free Speech Collation before Saturday.

06-23-2005, 05:25 PM	#3
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	very well said

06-23-2005, 05:27 PM	#4
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	FSC is pleased to announce that all membership and litigation contributions can be processed over the telephone as of 6:00 am Pacific Time Friday morning, June 24, 2005, through 2:00 pm, Saturday, June 25, 2005. Call 800.681.0403. Credit cards will be processed over the telephone.