Adult webmasters are so stupid - GoFuckYourself.com

Williams · 01-03-2002, 02:58 AM

Seriously, I had a dream last night that was all about one sentence:
"You gotta include an insult in your post if you wanna draw the attention of intelligent people!"
It was so funny dream, I wonder what Freud would have said about this. Well, I might as well try it out!

Adult webmasters are so stupid!

An example:
Let's assume a paysite with two pay periods and a TGP webmaster with an average IQ of TGP webmasters.

Scenario I

Period 1: TGP webmaster sends 10,000 clicks and 10 signups. Conversion rate 1:1000. He's very satisfied and feels like a man.
Period 2: TGP webmaster sends 10,000 clicks and 1 signup. He's very angry because the paysite is cheating him. They only gave him 10 signups for the starters and then started shaving signups. He immediately goes to GFY and warns everyone about the program. He might even add that he cannot pay his bandwidth bill now...

Scenario II

Period 1: 10,000 clicks, 1 signup. TGP webmaster leaves the program and tries to find a better one. He tells no-one about his experience because he has heard from GFY people that they convert 1:200 and he only converted 1:10000 and he's so ashamed. He might even email the paysite owner that he was only sending 404 traffic and it was going great but he's too busy with his own paysite.

If he would have stayed with the program, period 2 would have looked like: 10,000 clicks - 10 signups

Seriously, remember that when the amount of clicks and signups are statistically kinda low, you shouldnt think that you're being shaved because obviously it might be just luck one period, bad luck the other. A common mistake is to assume the conversion rate of a good 1st period as your NORMAL conversion rate, and if the next one is worse, you think something is wrong. With an exactly same statistical probability those conversion rates could be vice versa, and in that case you shouldnt automatically think you became a marketing genius within one pay period.

Your real conversion ratio is never the conversion rate of your best or worst pay period, it is something in between!

kittykat69 · 01-03-2002, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Williams:
Seriously, I had a dream last night that was all about one sentence:
"You gotta include an insult in your post if you wanna draw the attention of intelligent people!"

Go Fuck Yourself!

<a href="http://www.sexcontents.com">Sexcontents - Total Content Solutions</a>

<a href="http://www.dirtydollar.com">

</a>

Jesus · 01-03-2002, 03:10 AM

Na,

Paysites shave and like to fuck the webmaster.

Williams · 01-03-2002, 03:16 AM

/msg Jesus Did you accidentally send that as a public message? Cuz they dont know that - really, Jesus!

amadman · 01-03-2002, 04:07 AM

I am truely a stupid newbie webmaster my self so please dont mind my ramblings.

I found this link to a poisson probability calculator:
http://www.anesi.com/poisson.htm

On Collins http://buildinganempire.com

It uses an equation for determining the probability of something happening that dosent happen very often in a large amount of tries.

Like getting those signups!

Using the above tool you will see that if a site truely has a 1:1000
then its probability of getting 1 signup in 10000 is 0.00045399929762484855
so it should very rarely get 1 signup in 10000 hits.

If fact the probability of getting 22 signups in 10000 hits is just a little lower 0.00040391370432873584.

So I guess you could maybe try another 10000 hits.
But if you are looking for a 1:1000 then that 1 signup in 10000 hits should be rare.

Just some shit spewing from my finger tips :o)

Brian911 · 01-03-2002, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Williams:
He might even email the paysite owner that he was only sending 404 traffic and it was going great but he's too busy with his own paysite.

weird dream

I never email a paysite owner unless I want my checks to be sent again because I know they're way too busy with shaving btw

------------------
EraserCash - $35/sign-up, great promotional tools!
LuckyPartners - 65% recurring, free hosting without ANY ads and more!

Trax · 01-03-2002, 06:31 AM

you have these dreams too??? i thought i was the only one

hehehee

01-03-2002, 02:58 AM	#1
Williams Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 11	Adult webmasters are so stupid Seriously, I had a dream last night that was all about one sentence: "You gotta include an insult in your post if you wanna draw the attention of intelligent people!" It was so funny dream, I wonder what Freud would have said about this. Well, I might as well try it out! Adult webmasters are so stupid! An example: Let's assume a paysite with two pay periods and a TGP webmaster with an average IQ of TGP webmasters. Scenario I Period 1: TGP webmaster sends 10,000 clicks and 10 signups. Conversion rate 1:1000. He's very satisfied and feels like a man. Period 2: TGP webmaster sends 10,000 clicks and 1 signup. He's very angry because the paysite is cheating him. They only gave him 10 signups for the starters and then started shaving signups. He immediately goes to GFY and warns everyone about the program. He might even add that he cannot pay his bandwidth bill now... Scenario II Period 1: 10,000 clicks, 1 signup. TGP webmaster leaves the program and tries to find a better one. He tells no-one about his experience because he has heard from GFY people that they convert 1:200 and he only converted 1:10000 and he's so ashamed. He might even email the paysite owner that he was only sending 404 traffic and it was going great but he's too busy with his own paysite. If he would have stayed with the program, period 2 would have looked like: 10,000 clicks - 10 signups Seriously, remember that when the amount of clicks and signups are statistically kinda low, you shouldnt think that you're being shaved because obviously it might be just luck one period, bad luck the other. A common mistake is to assume the conversion rate of a good 1st period as your NORMAL conversion rate, and if the next one is worse, you think something is wrong. With an exactly same statistical probability those conversion rates could be vice versa, and in that case you shouldnt automatically think you became a marketing genius within one pay period. Your real conversion ratio is never the conversion rate of your best or worst pay period, it is something in between!

01-03-2002, 03:10 AM	#3
Jesus Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Originaly from Nazareth, but now living in Bakersfield CA Posts: 51	Na, Paysites shave and like to fuck the webmaster.

01-03-2002, 03:16 AM	#4
Williams Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 11	/msg Jesus Did you accidentally send that as a public message? Cuz they dont know that - really, Jesus!

01-03-2002, 04:07 AM	#5
amadman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: padded room Posts: 738	I am truely a stupid newbie webmaster my self so please dont mind my ramblings. I found this link to a poisson probability calculator: http://www.anesi.com/poisson.htm On Collins http://buildinganempire.com It uses an equation for determining the probability of something happening that dosent happen very often in a large amount of tries. Like getting those signups! Using the above tool you will see that if a site truely has a 1:1000 then its probability of getting 1 signup in 10000 is 0.00045399929762484855 so it should very rarely get 1 signup in 10000 hits. If fact the probability of getting 22 signups in 10000 hits is just a little lower 0.00040391370432873584. So I guess you could maybe try another 10000 hits. But if you are looking for a 1:1000 then that 1 signup in 10000 hits should be rare. Just some shit spewing from my finger tips :o)

01-03-2002, 06:31 AM	#7
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	you have these dreams too??? i thought i was the only one hehehee