Gas prices and a question about gas.... - GoFuckYourself.com

Rochard · 03-18-2005, 08:31 AM

Last night I filled up my tank and was hit with a $2.36 per gallon price. Ouch.

Here's my question:

I live in Phoenix, our gas is made in California, and we have one pipeline that supplies gas to Phoenix. Last summer this single pipeline broke and was shut down, closing down gas stations for nearly two weeks - Phoenix had no gas to buy anywhere.

So our gas all comes through one pipeline, and is sold by all the different gas stations locally. Does this mean the gas I buy at the AM/PM is the same exact gas as what I buy at Chevron or Exxon?

azguy · 03-18-2005, 08:39 AM

I was also surprised to see 2.37 last night here. Dunno about the pipes.

Jaymus. · 03-18-2005, 08:42 AM

The gas is the almost the same from copany to company. Some companies have a slightly higher octane level than others and some have additives for anti-pollution/cleaner burning properties.

The biggest difference in gas is dependent on the area that it's in. Ie. The gas you buy in Florida is much different than the gas you buy in Alaska, it's made to combust at different temperatures/altitudes.

Neal · 03-18-2005, 08:43 AM

I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....

Peaches · 03-18-2005, 08:49 AM

It's $2.07 regular where I live. BUT in the next town south a new Kroger opened and is selling gas for $1.79 so at least 2 other places in that town are selling for the same price

It's on my way to Atlanta so I time it where I can fill up there.

Since we're considered a "resort" area, we're almost always 10-15 cents a gallon higher than the burbs of Atlanta. And you know it doesn't cost any more to get it to here than it does to Atlanta.

BTW, just talked to my son in Japan - he's buying gas on base for $2.06! Incredible - it's about $3.50 off base.

The Stickman · 03-18-2005, 08:55 AM

South Florida Gas
Low - $2.19
Mid - $2.29
High - $2.39

Word has it that High Grade will hit $3.00 by Xmas! Nice frickin present!

Barefootsies · 03-18-2005, 08:58 AM

Michigan gas

$2.39/2.26 a gallon.

As for your question,.. each state ironically enough has different restrictions on gasoline. For example, Cali gas has to be much cleaner than a lot of other states, but then there are a number of different factors. Some has diffferent octanes, and cleaner additives, etc.

So the short answer would be no, all gas is not the same.

Krusty · 03-18-2005, 09:00 AM

shit.. you americans have NOTHING to complain about these days.... seriously.. Australia's up to averages btwn 85c and 110c a Litre which i think is like $3 and above.. poor UK bastards though!!!

tony286 · 03-18-2005, 09:02 AM

We need to find alt fuels and get off the black heroin

MandyBlake · 03-18-2005, 09:04 AM

i have no idea...but 2.37???? damn! we're known here in ga for having some of the lowest gas prices in the country and we're at around $2-2.05 here~!
it's insane.

EroticySteve · 03-18-2005, 09:07 AM

This is ridiculous. My truck gets 17 mpg avg. This blows. I remember the days of sub $1.00 gallons of gas. That wasn't that long ago.

Something has to give. There is no reason why gas should be $2.00+ a gallon.

Peaches · 03-18-2005, 09:13 AM

The cost of gas really isn't high compared to inflation. In March of 1981, gasoline cost $3.08 a gallon, adjusted for inflation.

Also different states impose different taxes. For instance, GA has one of the lowest taxes on gas.

Rochard · 03-18-2005, 09:14 AM

Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?

IDBW-NOC · 03-18-2005, 09:16 AM

My gas is $2.53

Peaches · 03-18-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?

Yes.

Buy the cheapest gas you can find.

KRL · 03-18-2005, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?

Where did you get that info on the pipeline. Maybe natural gas is piped into on a single line. But I highly doubt all the liquid petroleum for a city as big as Phoenix is coming in on a single pipeline.

And no, refined gas from one refinery is not mixed with another oil company's.

Peaches · 03-18-2005, 09:23 AM

From http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/brochure/gas04/gasoline.htm

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Can I tell which country or State the gasoline at my local station comes from?

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) cannot definitively say where gasoline at a given station originated since EIA does not collect data on the source of the gasoline sold at retail outlets. The name on the service station sign does not tell the whole story. The fact that you purchase gasoline from a given company does not necessarily mean that the gasoline was actually produced by that particular company?s refineries. While gasoline is sold at about 167,000 retail outlets across the nation, about one-third of these stations are ?unbranded? dealers that may sell gasoline of any brand. The remainder of the outlets are ?branded? stations, but may not necessarily be selling gasoline produced at that company?s refineries. This is because gasoline from different refineries is often combined for shipment by pipeline, and companies owning service stations in the same area may be purchasing gasoline at the same bulk terminal. In that case, the only difference between the gasoline at station X versus the gasoline at station Y may be the small amount of additives that those companies add to the gasoline before it gets to the pump. Even if we knew at which company?s refinery the gasoline was produced, the source of the crude oil used at that refinery may vary on a day-to-day basis. Most refiners use a mix of crude oils from various domestic and foreign sources. The mix of crude oils can change based on the relative cost and availability of crude oil from different sources.

Minte · 03-18-2005, 09:27 AM

I paid $2.29 for 93oct yesterday

Sosa · 03-18-2005, 09:29 AM

damn gas prices suck, right at 1.99 here right now.

CE_BigB · 03-18-2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix?

Arizona has no refineries...
but I believe there is more than one pipe in the pipelines...
and there is also a Texas pipeline to AZ

here I found a link
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318576/posts

It does fry me, however.. that I can go to my house in Parker AZ... and gas there is 30 cents cheaper than here in LA area... where its all made.
however, a great deal of this cost difference is taxes from AZ to CA.

BIG B

Pete-KT · 03-18-2005, 09:32 AM

No it is not because when the companies get the gas they filter and add differnt additives to it, so the gas is slightly differnt.

Jakke PNG · 03-18-2005, 09:32 AM

Stop crying and stop driving SUV's. Buy a 1.2 liter clio like I have.

CaroMark · 03-18-2005, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

We need to find alt fuels and get off the black heroin

This was the best answer yet!

Rochard · 03-18-2005, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Stop crying and stop driving SUV's. Buy a 1.2 liter clio like I have.

I have a Mustang that gets some 25 MPG and I'm happy with that. I have a motorcycle that gets unheard of gas mileage. And I rarely leave the house.

Young · 03-18-2005, 09:35 AM

$2.30 for 93 here in Boston $2.45 for 95 if you can find it.

Denis_SC · 03-18-2005, 09:35 AM

It's $ 3.25 / gallon for the cheapest one here in Toronto today

Jakke PNG · 03-18-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocHard

I have a Mustang that gets some 25 MPG and I'm happy with that. I have a motorcycle that gets unheard of gas mileage. And I rarely leave the house.

My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole

Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.

Rochard · 03-18-2005, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole

Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.

Yeah, I'll agree with you. Lots of us in the industry have big Hummers, etc, and I kind of laugh of them - That's a huge tank that sucks up gas like there is no tomarrow and it is kind of pointless.

My wife drives an Explorer. It cost $45 to fill up, but she really commutes to and from work it will last her two or three weeks.

dready · 03-18-2005, 09:44 AM

It'll be great if it could hit $5/gal soon, but fuckin Bush is doing his best to prevent it.

Rinaldo · 03-18-2005, 09:55 AM

90 cents a litre in Canada

theking · 03-18-2005, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Where did you get that info on the pipeline. Maybe natural gas is piped into on a single line. But I highly doubt all the liquid petroleum for a city as big as Phoenix is coming in on a single pipeline.

And no, refined gas from one refinery is not mixed with another oil company's.

You are correct on all counts.

marzzo · 03-18-2005, 10:06 AM

http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com <-- your city might have one of these, kinda neat but a few cents difference doesn't break the bank.

Project-Shadow · 03-18-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal

I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....

It's like being raped without the lube.

BRISK · 03-18-2005, 10:12 AM

A city as big as Phoenix had no gas to buy for 2 weeks?

Sparks · 03-18-2005, 10:13 AM

Gas prices are getting sooooo high for the states. I havea truck too

sumphatpimp · 03-18-2005, 10:14 AM

gasoline costs about 50 cents a gallon to produce, the rest of the price you pay is taxes.
never bithch about he tax on gas or cigaretts or liquor do you?
anytime the politicians need money to fund something its gas, smokes and booze.
and no one ever bitches.
if the gas keeps going up it will cause inflation and then the shit will hit the fan.
the cost to produce goods and deliver them to the store will be passed on to the consumer.

Platinum Red · 03-18-2005, 10:23 AM

ok I am in canada and last night it cost me $50 to fill my truck. the gas here is up to 80 - 85 cents a liter

ADL Colin · 03-18-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

My comment wasn't really geared towards YOU, but to your nation as a whole

Europe gets buttraped on gasprices, and I'm just bitter.

You mean Europe gets buttraped on gas taxes ;-)

fl_prn_str · 03-18-2005, 10:27 AM

dont forget about Ethanol/Gasohol.....

Manowar · 03-18-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal

I guess living in the states is good for gas prices as it's $7.00 a gallon in the UK....

03-18-2005, 08:31 AM	#1
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,301	Gas prices and a question about gas.... Last night I filled up my tank and was hit with a $2.36 per gallon price. Ouch. Here's my question: I live in Phoenix, our gas is made in California, and we have one pipeline that supplies gas to Phoenix. Last summer this single pipeline broke and was shut down, closing down gas stations for nearly two weeks - Phoenix had no gas to buy anywhere. So our gas all comes through one pipeline, and is sold by all the different gas stations locally. Does this mean the gas I buy at the AM/PM is the same exact gas as what I buy at Chevron or Exxon? __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

03-18-2005, 08:43 AM	#4
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03-18-2005, 08:55 AM	#6
The Stickman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Between the the first and last Hurricane... Posts: 263	South Florida Gas Low - $2.19 Mid - $2.29 High - $2.39 Word has it that High Grade will hit $3.00 by Xmas! Nice frickin present! __________________ We don't live in a world of reality, we live in a world of perceptions.

03-18-2005, 08:58 AM	#7
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	Michigan gas $2.39/2.26 a gallon. As for your question,.. each state ironically enough has different restrictions on gasoline. For example, Cali gas has to be much cleaner than a lot of other states, but then there are a number of different factors. Some has diffferent octanes, and cleaner additives, etc. So the short answer would be no, all gas is not the same. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

03-18-2005, 09:04 AM	#10
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	i have no idea...but 2.37???? damn! we're known here in ga for having some of the lowest gas prices in the country and we're at around $2-2.05 here~! it's insane. __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921

03-18-2005, 08:39 AM	#2
azguy Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 5,167	I was also surprised to see 2.37 last night here. Dunno about the pipes.

03-18-2005, 08:42 AM	#3
Jaymus. Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: BC. Posts: 304	The gas is the almost the same from copany to company. Some companies have a slightly higher octane level than others and some have additives for anti-pollution/cleaner burning properties. The biggest difference in gas is dependent on the area that it's in. Ie. The gas you buy in Florida is much different than the gas you buy in Alaska, it's made to combust at different temperatures/altitudes.

03-18-2005, 08:49 AM	#5
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	It's $2.07 regular where I live. BUT in the next town south a new Kroger opened and is selling gas for $1.79 so at least 2 other places in that town are selling for the same price It's on my way to Atlanta so I time it where I can fill up there. Since we're considered a "resort" area, we're almost always 10-15 cents a gallon higher than the burbs of Atlanta. And you know it doesn't cost any more to get it to here than it does to Atlanta. BTW, just talked to my son in Japan - he's buying gas on base for $2.06! Incredible - it's about $3.50 off base.

03-18-2005, 09:00 AM	#8
Krusty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand (Aussie living in NZ) Posts: 374	shit.. you americans have NOTHING to complain about these days.... seriously.. Australia's up to averages btwn 85c and 110c a Litre which i think is like $3 and above.. poor UK bastards though!!!

03-18-2005, 09:02 AM	#9
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	We need to find alt fuels and get off the black heroin

03-18-2005, 09:07 AM	#11
EroticySteve Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 4,365	This is ridiculous. My truck gets 17 mpg avg. This blows. I remember the days of sub $1.00 gallons of gas. That wasn't that long ago. Something has to give. There is no reason why gas should be $2.00+ a gallon. __________________ You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that. Our affiliates earn up to $3/email or $107/sale email steve <at> eroticy.com - icq 290153464

03-18-2005, 09:13 AM	#12
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	The cost of gas really isn't high compared to inflation. In March of 1981, gasoline cost $3.08 a gallon, adjusted for inflation. Also different states impose different taxes. For instance, GA has one of the lowest taxes on gas.

03-18-2005, 09:14 AM	#13
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,301	Back to my question - The gas I buy at Exxon is the same I'd buy at any other gas station here in PHoenix? __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

03-18-2005, 09:16 AM	#14
IDBW-NOC Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: [ICQ]322821921 Posts: 71	My gas is $2.53 __________________ IDEALBandwidth.com - 24/7 Phone, ICQ, and Ticket Support! All servers located in our datacenter in Houston! Over 7000Mbps of bandwidth UTILIZED, not just capacity! Ask me how you can get 20Mbps for only $299/month!

03-18-2005, 09:27 AM	#18
Minte Babemeister Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Madison Posts: 7,081	I paid $2.29 for 93oct yesterday __________________ You might not be as anonymous as you think you are.

03-18-2005, 09:29 AM	#19
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	damn gas prices suck, right at 1.99 here right now.

03-18-2005, 09:32 AM	#21
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	No it is not because when the companies get the gas they filter and add differnt additives to it, so the gas is slightly differnt.

03-18-2005, 09:32 AM	#22
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Stop crying and stop driving SUV's. Buy a 1.2 liter clio like I have. __________________ ..and I'm off.

03-18-2005, 09:35 AM	#25
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	$2.30 for 93 here in Boston $2.45 for 95 if you can find it. __________________ ★★★

03-18-2005, 09:35 AM	#26
Denis_SC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,332	It's $ 3.25 / gallon for the cheapest one here in Toronto today __________________ Denis B. ICQ 342-587-607 denis AT detamed.com

03-18-2005, 09:44 AM	#29
dready Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 5,247	It'll be great if it could hit $5/gal soon, but fuckin Bush is doing his best to prevent it. __________________ ICQ: 91139591

03-18-2005, 09:55 AM	#30
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	90 cents a litre in Canada

03-18-2005, 10:06 AM	#32
marzzo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,134	http://www.twincitiesgasprices.com <-- your city might have one of these, kinda neat but a few cents difference doesn't break the bank.

03-18-2005, 10:12 AM	#34
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	A city as big as Phoenix had no gas to buy for 2 weeks? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

03-18-2005, 10:13 AM	#35
Sparks Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 2,466	Gas prices are getting sooooo high for the states. I havea truck too

03-18-2005, 10:14 AM	#36
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	gasoline costs about 50 cents a gallon to produce, the rest of the price you pay is taxes. never bithch about he tax on gas or cigaretts or liquor do you? anytime the politicians need money to fund something its gas, smokes and booze. and no one ever bitches. if the gas keeps going up it will cause inflation and then the shit will hit the fan. the cost to produce goods and deliver them to the store will be passed on to the consumer.

03-18-2005, 10:23 AM	#37
Platinum Red Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In heart of Toronto Posts: 517	ok I am in canada and last night it cost me $50 to fill my truck. the gas here is up to 80 - 85 cents a liter __________________ Platinum Red any questions - [email protected] ICQ # 167818595

03-18-2005, 10:27 AM	#39
fl_prn_str Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 5,736	dont forget about Ethanol/Gasohol.....