Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed... - GoFuckYourself.com

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 02:15 PM

Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed drive away some conversions.

If the price is to high, they have the email addy. Impression is, there is gonna be some spam.

If the price is not listed first, it must be over the top high.

Comments?

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 02:56 PM

WTF - bump 1 time

BradM · 10-05-2004, 02:57 PM

What is your question exactly. I think most people agree with your statement.

tranza · 10-05-2004, 03:10 PM

I have never seen such a site....

A link would be good.

brizzad · 10-05-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
I have never seen such a site....

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 03:11 PM

Have a few sponsors doing this. Wish they wouldn't. Doesn't seem to be a topic on everybodys mine.

If you don't like the sponsor, there are a ton of others.

Thought maybe someone would come up with a solid reason for it. Gee like a solid reason for 10 exit pages off the join page too.

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
I have never seen such a site....

A link would be good.

Here's one.

Did I miss the pricing????

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 03:16 PM

A TCG site. Not to pick on them in particular.

johndoebob · 10-05-2004, 03:16 PM

Normal pricing but of course legal mailings to those that might not sign up.

Rich · 10-05-2004, 03:17 PM

Smart move for PPS programs, bad for affiliates. What else is new?

strobi · 10-05-2004, 03:17 PM

They're making far more on your traffic than the 35$/signup you get for it. I bet 1/10 enters their email addy.

MickeyG · 10-05-2004, 03:19 PM

i bet an extremely large percentage of that 1/10 enters a fake address too.

JSA Matt · 10-05-2004, 03:20 PM

I believe the purpose is to cut down the amount of information that is on the actual credit card form. It is also a good method to determine how many declines the processor is actually giving. If you have 500 people fill out the form and only 350 actually process, this could mean your decline ratio is WAY too high, your forms are broken, or they simply changed their mind.

It is not just about spam.... there are actually some honest programs out there believe it or not.

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 03:22 PM

Big surprise. I have to push other sponsors. A ton of webmasters have them in their sig too.

johndoebob · 10-05-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
It is not just about spam.... there are actually some honest programs out there believe it or not.

There's a difference between legal mailings and untarget mass mailings.

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I believe the purpose is to cut down the amount of information that is on the actual credit card form. It is also a good method to determine how many declines the processor is actually giving. If you have 500 people fill out the form and only 350 actually process, this could mean your decline ratio is WAY too high, your forms are broken, or they simply changed their mind.

It is not just about spam.... there are actually some honest programs out there believe it or not.

Don't most processors provide decline stats?

johndoebob · 10-05-2004, 03:25 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Big surprise. I have to push other sponsors. A ton of webmasters have them in their sig too.

How else should they pay you 35$ per trial?!Think about that...

TCG is quality and their sites too.

Rich · 10-05-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I believe the purpose is to cut down the amount of information that is on the actual credit card form.

please

zzgundamnzz · 10-05-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by tranza
I have never seen such a site....

A link would be good.

You should click on your sig one of these days...

NinjaSteve · 10-05-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
Normal pricing but of course legal mailings to those that might not sign up.

I think the above statement is true. Also even if they aren't mailed the thing is once they've entered in their info they'll probably complete the next form anyway. Why not collect their name and e-mail. If they are going to buy, they're going to buy. They're not going to "Hmmm maybe I should buy this" then they see a $29-39 charge and change their mind. They would have bought anyway.

JSA Matt · 10-05-2004, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
There's a difference between legal mailings and untarget mass mailings.

Yes, and mailing based on information harvested through the join forms is not legal mailings.

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Originally posted by Rich
please

Please what?

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Don't most processors provide decline stats?

Yes and they are very inaccurate...

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Yes, and mailing based on information harvested through the join forms is not legal mailings.

Please what?

Yes and they are very inaccurate...

Do you ever think in your wildest thoughts that maybe a processors might shave?

If you watched the stats close, they would get caught, so prolly not????

JSA Matt · 10-05-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Do you ever think in your wildest thoughts that maybe a processors might shave?

Yes, it has crossed my mind more than once...

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Yes, it has crossed my mind more than once...

I can think of ways to do it. Don't know if I want to think about it too much right now. It will be bad enough tonight watching the debates.

stocktrader23 · 10-05-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Yes, and mailing based on information harvested through the join forms is not legal mailings.

Whatever gave you that idea?

pussyluver · 10-05-2004, 05:52 PM

When you see thousands of hits with a good click through to the join and nothing, makes you go ahmmmm. Esp when another sponsor you have earns ya $.15 a click.

johndoebob · 10-05-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
Yes, and mailing based on information harvested through the join forms is not legal mailings.

Harvesting?

Sponsors cover their asses before they do anything, I never signed up to a paysite through a form like that so I don't know what exactly happens after that but I'm sure they make it legal opt-in mailings, otherwise - way too risky.

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When you see thousands of hits with a good click through to the join and nothing, makes you go ahmmmm. Esp when another sponsor you have earns ya $.15 a click.

If a sponsor doesn't work for you after a significant amount of traffic send stop promoting it and concentrate on the ones that work for you.

Waiting for better conversions is not a good business practice.

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Do you ever think in your wildest thoughts that maybe a processors might shave?

CCBill does (system errors, cookie loss, blah whatever) and those who promote CCBill sponsors life with it.The sponsor always gets his money, you as an affiliate might loose up to 40%, but that's life.

http · 10-05-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed drive away some conversions.

If the price is to high, they have the email addy. Impression is, there is gonna be some spam.

If the price is not listed first, it must be over the top high.

Comments?

That, and

- uncredited consoles
- country redirects
- emails collectors on the tour
- traffic leaking links to "video shops" at the bottom
- prechecked cross sales
- "free access to blabla.COM included (type it in already, stupid)" on the join page
- free "branding" of huge ass URLs on banners...

all this amounts to a healthy share of "value per surfer" taken away from you without pay

They simply do what they get away with

There are only few sponsors that have none of the above

All you can do is to look at your bottomline and act accordingly

10-05-2004, 02:15 PM	#1
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed... Sites that require surfers name and email before pricing is revealed drive away some conversions. If the price is to high, they have the email addy. Impression is, there is gonna be some spam. If the price is not listed first, it must be over the top high. Comments?

10-05-2004, 03:10 PM	#4
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	I have never seen such a site.... A link would be good. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

10-05-2004, 03:16 PM	#9
johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Normal pricing but of course legal mailings to those that might not sign up. __________________

10-05-2004, 02:56 PM	#2
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	WTF - bump 1 time

10-05-2004, 02:57 PM	#3
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	What is your question exactly. I think most people agree with your statement.

10-05-2004, 03:11 PM	#6
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Have a few sponsors doing this. Wish they wouldn't. Doesn't seem to be a topic on everybodys mine. If you don't like the sponsor, there are a ton of others. Thought maybe someone would come up with a solid reason for it. Gee like a solid reason for 10 exit pages off the join page too.

10-05-2004, 03:17 PM	#10
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Smart move for PPS programs, bad for affiliates. What else is new?

10-05-2004, 03:17 PM	#11
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	They're making far more on your traffic than the 35$/signup you get for it. I bet 1/10 enters their email addy.

10-05-2004, 03:19 PM	#12
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	i bet an extremely large percentage of that 1/10 enters a fake address too.

10-05-2004, 03:20 PM	#13
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	I believe the purpose is to cut down the amount of information that is on the actual credit card form. It is also a good method to determine how many declines the processor is actually giving. If you have 500 people fill out the form and only 350 actually process, this could mean your decline ratio is WAY too high, your forms are broken, or they simply changed their mind. It is not just about spam.... there are actually some honest programs out there believe it or not.

10-05-2004, 03:22 PM	#14
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	Big surprise. I have to push other sponsors. A ton of webmasters have them in their sig too.

10-05-2004, 05:52 PM	#26
pussyluver Clueless OleMan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: ICQ - 169903487 Posts: 11,009	When you see thousands of hits with a good click through to the join and nothing, makes you go ahmmmm. Esp when another sponsor you have earns ya $.15 a click.