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Old 05-18-2001, 08:27 PM   #1
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I've solved America's drug problem!

I was thinking about how stupid keeping cancer and glaucoma patients from using medicinal marijuana is, and I fucked around and solved the whole drug problem! Let me break it down for ya:

They're spending around 10 billion dollars a year fighting drugs, not counting the money they'd save if the huge number of people in prison for possession were let out. Lotsa money, that's what I'm getting at!

It's not doing any damn good. Being illegal makes drugs expensive - being expensive makes it worth the risks of smuggling/dealing. Being expensive makes addicts turn to crime to pay for drugs.

We need to legalize some recreational drugs and sell them in liquor stores, with heavy taxes. They'd still be cheap compared to now. Everytime this comes up there's some loser that says "Then EVERYBODY would use drugs!" Then I say to the loser, "would you?" and he realizes how stupid that idea is. People that want to use drugs do. The fact that it's illegal just makes it cooler, that's why the kids are always getting fucked up.

Now the Gov't is not only saving billions, they're making billions more! What they do is have VOLUNTARY drug testing for anyone that wants it, if you're "clean" you get a cut of some of that cash! Every few months you can go in and pee in a cup, and if you're one of the majority of folks that aren't interested in stonin' you get a little reward.

Would it stop drug use? Of course not, nothing will. If you think drugs are different from alcohol you're in fantasy-land. What it would do is pay for programs to help people who need it, cut down on crime, and make those of us who don't need any help happy. God bless America, baby!
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Old 05-18-2001, 08:32 PM   #2
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Totally agree. The legality of drugs has a very small impact on drug use. Crime would go down, taxes would go down, less law enforcement types needed. Damn what a dumb idea

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Old 05-18-2001, 11:53 PM   #3
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Why the Hell does "the freest country in the world" have more people in prison, per capita, than all but a few dictatorships? The main answer is the criminalization of drugs. I say, treat drugs like alcohol: People can use them until they fuck up, and even then it should be handled like alcohol abuse.

At the same time, I would recommend allowing discrimination based on drug use, too. If an apartment owner wants to test potential residents for coke, fine. Why should I have to live with a coke or heroin user in the next apartment? If someone thinks meth heads make great residents, let them open up an apartment building ONLY for meth heads.

This way, everyone is free to use drugs and to avoid unwanted drug users in many important ways.

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Old 05-19-2001, 12:05 AM   #4
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It's the same reason why we have Never had a Black or female President..Some things just wont happen here..
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Old 05-19-2001, 12:32 AM   #5
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i'll just assume all three of you guys were stoned when you posted to this topic...

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Old 05-19-2001, 12:43 AM   #6
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I count four posters. Fiva after you mr. brian. tokie smokie?
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Old 05-19-2001, 12:47 AM   #7
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we criminalize drugs because they are a nice, blanket issue that so many can wrap themselves in and feel sanctimonious. ever notice that drugs gangs didn't really come on the scene till after nancy/ronnie declared just-say-no-yes-no-to-the-war-on-drugs?
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Old 05-19-2001, 01:21 AM   #8
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if we legalized drugs then who would the cops steal them from?
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Old 05-19-2001, 11:25 AM   #9
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I come from a long line of "legalizers". Grew up in in Hippyville (Eugene, Oregon). There are a million reasons why they will never legalize (to keep the thread somewhat contained I'll only speak on MaryJane) marijuana. If I went off on all the others I would probably have the longest thread ever recorded on a BBS lol.

1. Pharmaceutical companies. My fiancee works for them...have a little inside info. Marijuana DOES have legitimate medicinal purposes for some diseases, they have done there own tests and know it for a fact. Why would they want you to be able to grow your own or buy cheap meds/weed, when they can charge you an arm and a leg for your only "legal" relief that they produce. They are one of the most powerful lobbies in DC. They will never let THEIR politicians (not ours, none of them are really OURS) allow this to happen. Politics is big business not constitution.

2. No politician will ever have the balls to be the one to introduce such a thing. Being anti-drug, which is a joke cuz they push more drugs on society that any dope dealer, is one of the easiest ways to get votes from the sheep (aka the majority of America), and one of the quickest ways for your opponent to attack you and kill your chances of winning.

These are only 2 of about 100 reasons why legalization, even though logically it should be a no-brainer, will never happen.

I could write a dissertation on the legalization of recreational drugs...pros, cons, benefits to society, the aftermath, etc. but I will do you all a favor and not post it here lol.

Our war on drugs is a pathetic, PURPOSEFUL waste of time. Many benefit from the way it is and will do anything to keep it that way. And, that means politicians, pharmaceutical companies, drug dealers (you think they want to be taken out of the equation?), etc.

The only people that should matter are the people! We should be in control of what we want for our country. But, as everyone knows...that's just not how it works.

My biggest pet peeve. They won't let cancer and AIDS patients greatly improve their quality of life with medicinal marijuana and then prescribe them Demoral (an opiate derivitive).

Omigod...I could go on for days on this. It really fires me up and has since I was a kid. Like all, I hate hypocrisy, shady politicians, wasteful gov't spending, greedy corporations that trade people's pain for money....Ahhh God Bless America.
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Old 05-19-2001, 11:58 AM   #10
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Why don't we make drugs legal? lol
For the same reason the oil companies wont release the patents on water engines or alcohol engines.
Money.
Oh, yes, you can run an ordinary engine on 80%water 20%petrol(patented 10 years ago) and on alcohol(almost all top fuel drag racers use methanol) - but as water is free, and anyone can make alcohol, the oil companies wouldn't be able to control the planet if those alternatives were used.
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Old 05-19-2001, 12:20 PM   #11
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All I can say is vote for Ralph Nader...

He has been saying all of the same shit... When he came to my school an entire stadium of people went crazy cheering when he said he was going to legalize drugs ;)

Also another problem that nobody mentioned -- we have millions maybe billions of people ;) in this country that believe that the bible says that drugs are *bad* and that if you use them you are doing harm to your body. The only way MJ would be legalized is if Jesus fucking Christ himself came down and told everyone that MJ should be legalized and then they would probably put him on death row and give him a lethal injection anyway... hahaha!

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Old 05-19-2001, 12:46 PM   #12
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April,

But aren't they stopping all medical marijuana use? If so that would end the pharmaceutical interest in it - unless you're saying pot would replace alot of other drugs on the market.

And as for politicians, look at the way things are changing. Bill smoked but didn't inhale and all the old people freaked. W all but admitted that he spent a decade coked up and nobody blinked.

Everyday old conservatives are dying and being replaced by younger conservatives and their stances are the same, but weaker. They believe the same things, but don't feel as strongly about it.

Kat - right now no one's making money off drugs but drug dealers. If we had some reform, the gov't could, the tobacco companies would start growing pot. I know pot can be grown yourself, but if your choice was growing a little plant in your backyard, or picking up a pack of joints for $2 at the 7-11, most people would just buy it. And all the other drugs need to be processed by professionals to be "safe".

Fly, don't get me started, the Jesus people are always a problem with any issue that involves change. We'd have to start an ad campaign about how God made marijuana grow naturally, we didn't create it.
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Old 05-19-2001, 12:53 PM   #13
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Warphead,

My point was that pharmaceutical companies do not want marijuana legalized because it would take money out of there pocket. If a cancer patient had the choice of smoking weed legally at a much cheaper maybe even free cost (if they grow there own) or paying for expensive anti-nausea drugs..the pharm companies will lose money.

As for politicians...it's a lot different admitting past mistakes and actually advocating legalization. One may still get you elected...the other is a platform issue that is the equivalent to political death.
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Old 05-19-2001, 09:51 PM   #14
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"...I fucked around and solved the whole drug problem! Let me break it down for ya:"

That would have to be the opening line of your speech to Congress.

I really like the idea of getting cash for being clean. I could quit working.
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Old 05-19-2001, 10:06 PM   #15
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I like this topic...especially because all the bills to be passed for Legalizing weed was just thrown out this week.

This county is in dept. I think the whole "Make Money for the gov, instead of lose money" is a great outlook!!

More jail's cleared out,less tax's for us, more kids would stop smoking cause it wouldnt be so "rebelious" .

And , NO, I dont smoke pot. I havent smoked since last summer. But I have some just in case I need a "fix" lol
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Old 05-20-2001, 08:50 AM   #16
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drugs are legal here and we don't have much problems with it...

alcohol causes way more trouble then softdrugs, the just make you really relaxed
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Old 05-20-2001, 09:21 AM   #17
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April, my sweet, you're being cynical.

Longhair, If I was president they would have to censor my speeches for television (until I passed a law saying requiring profanity and nudity on the networks)

No doubt Deluxe, the Netherlands are a couple decades ahead of us when it comes to sensible laws.
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Old 05-20-2001, 03:45 PM   #18
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I totally agree with drug legalization. Vancouver is said to have the best marijuana, so if the government started to grow it and sell it, they would make a ton of money. Canada should legalize drugs too!


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