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Old 09-14-2003, 01:47 PM   #1
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Swedes: Your reaction on the Euro vote?

Kind of surprised not to see any threads about it yet.
But what do you guys think of the result?

As you might know, Denmark voted no to the Euro 3 years ago and I can't say that we have been sorry about it...
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:50 PM   #2
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To the non European folks: 56.2% of the Swedish people voted no to take part in the European Monetary Union. Meaning that they will be one of 3 countries outside the EMU.
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Old 09-14-2003, 01:54 PM   #3
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fucking sad
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History is repeating.



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Old 09-14-2003, 02:04 PM   #6
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The Euro is a stupid thing in the first place!
It sucks, I mean, you have loads of different economies all with the same currency, so the ones that are doing good pay for the ones that are doing bad! And also, when that shit was forced up on us here in Spain, the price of everything rised about 20% !!
Now that really fucking sucked
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:12 PM   #7
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:14 PM   #8
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The Euro is a stupid thing in the first place!
It sucks, I mean, you have loads of different economies all with the same currency, so the ones that are doing good pay for the ones that are doing bad! And also, when that shit was forced up on us here in Spain, the price of everything rised about 20% !!
Now that really fucking sucked
It's the beginning of United States of Europe.. They have to go step by step.. The money was a crucial step.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:41 PM   #9
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
I don't think you can generalize like that and say that all who voted no, only think of their own economy. Many highly educated people also voted no in the Danish vote because they thought Denmark as a whole would be better off without the Euro.

I think it is seen more as a question of more integration into the European Union or not, and an awful lot of people don't want that... Especially since EU, in my opinion has a huge lack of democracy. But that is a different discussion.

Anyway it makes you think that all (?) the countries that actually voted about the Euro chose not to become part of it...
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:44 PM   #10
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To the non European folks: 56.2% of the Swedish people voted no to take part in the European Monetary Union. Meaning that they will be one of 3 countries outside the EMU.
3??? In March when I was still there it was only 16 countries...who else joined? I'm glad Sweden didn't!!
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:46 PM   #11
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
Har du ens varit i norrland?
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:49 PM   #12
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I'm glad we voted NO

Now lets just hope that the swedish krona sink like hell
against the dollar so I can make more money
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:51 PM   #13
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
Afan, visste inte det bodde 4 miljoner röstberättigade i Norrland.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:52 PM   #14
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3??? In March when I was still there it was only 16 countries...who else joined? I'm glad Sweden didn't!!
Sweden, Denmark and United Kingdom are not taking part in the European Monetary Union (EMU) but are still members of the European Union (EU).

The EU consists of 15 (16 including Estonia) countries but only 12 of them are taking part of the EMU.
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Old 09-14-2003, 02:58 PM   #15
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Kind of surprised not to see any threads about it yet.
But what do you guys think of the result?

As you might know, Denmark voted no to the Euro 3 years ago and I can't say that we have been sorry about it...
NO-SIDE ARE THE WINNER IN THIS VOTING GAME. (arrgh! )

YES 41,8%
NO 56,1%
BLANK 2.1%
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INVALID 0,5%
VOTER TURNOUT 81,2%

But, hey. We have wonderful a country anyway. Nothing beats our girls!
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:07 PM   #16
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It's the beginning of United States of Europe.. They have to go step by step.. The money was a crucial step.
Yeah, that would really suck!!
Too much difference between the countries for that to work properly. I mean we have everything from Turkey to Norway, Russia to Spain. Then we have tiny places like Iceland with 300.000 inhabitants, and big countries like Germany, France and UK to name a few. Don't like the idea at all!

What I do like is that people in Europe don't need a visa with in Europe, free trade ect. But I think that is enough
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:09 PM   #17
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when you live here on GFY all day like I do..I'm very sad. Can we still be friends? plzzz..

Now we're something in between..I guess all politicans going to diss us now in EU. We're not 100% now..

not that I care to much what other politicans think about other politicans... But I get it..Goran is very sad now because he's gonna get dissed down there..not in his face but probably behind his back.

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Old 09-14-2003, 03:13 PM   #18
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I also think it's sad that we (sweden) don't fully join the European collaboration... It's so typical that we always have such a negative attitude towards new stuff. I think many swedes voted no just because they are afraid of changes.
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Yeah, that would really suck!!
Too much difference between the countries for that to work properly. I mean we have everything from Turkey to Norway, Russia to Spain. Then we have tiny places like Iceland with 300.000 inhabitants, and big countries like Germany, France and UK to name a few. Don't like the idea at all!

What I do like is that people in Europe don't need a visa with in Europe, free trade ect. But I think that is enough
When did Russia and Turkey join the EU???
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I also think it's sad that we (sweden) don't fully join the European collaboration... It's so typical that we always have such a negative attitude towards new stuff. I think many swedes voted no just because they are afraid of changes.
I agree, It's like Lars said it..are you comeing with us out, no we rather stay here at home.

so simple and perfect said

I really don't see why. I guess we are to afraid of getting owned by the bigger countries...like they whould take over our country or something like that. And what's wrong with that..I don't say no to other countries girls

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When did Russia and Turkey join the EU???
They didn't - Turkey wants to but can't :-)
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:23 PM   #22
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
Hörru du, innan du ens öppnar käften och börjar smutskasta folk så ta reda på fakta! Även om alla norrlänningar skulle ha röstat nej så skulle det inte utgjort mer än 20% av rösterna, och sett över hela Sverige var det bara i två län som Ja-sidan hade majoritet.

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Sweden, Denmark and United Kingdom are not taking part in the European Monetary Union (EMU) but are still members of the European Union (EU).

The EU consists of 15 (16 including Estonia) countries but only 12 of them are taking part of the EMU.
Ah, ok thanks,

The countries with the Euro, I was under the impression it was 16 countries?
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Old 09-14-2003, 03:28 PM   #24
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I am from England.
We don't want your fucking Euro's thank you.
We are quite happy with our Pounds.
Thank you.
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The majority of the people who voted yes live in middle class, upper middle class and high class areas. They are usually well educated....

Jag älskar norrland, och vet mycket väl att alla som röstade nej inte kommer därifrån. Men faktum är att många som röstade nej är bidragstagare som är rädda att behöva skaffa sig ett jobb om vi går med i EMU. Det är alldeles för lätt att vara arbetslös i det här landet. Så länge man inte är sjuk går det alltid att få arbete. Hade inte skatterna varit så jävla höga skulle fler företag kunna anställa och då skulle det till och med vara lätt att få ett attraktivt arbete...

Puss på er alla norrlänningar!
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The majority of the people who voted yes live in middle class, upper middle class and high class areas. They are usually well educated....

Jag älskar norrland, och vet mycket väl att alla som röstade nej inte kommer därifrån. Men faktum är att många som röstade nej är bidragstagare som är rädda att behöva skaffa sig ett jobb om vi går med i EMU. Det är alldeles för lätt att vara arbetslös i det här landet. Så länge man inte är sjuk går det alltid att få arbete. Hade inte skatterna varit så jävla höga skulle fler företag kunna anställa och då skulle det till och med vara lätt att få ett attraktivt arbete...

Puss på er alla norrlänningar!
Äh, skål och en fanfar för vårt fina land. ? eller inte. Återstår att se hur vi klarar oss.

Förresten, vad jobbar du med Anna? Är du bosatt i Sverige?
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Jag gör porrsidor Yep, jag är bosatt i Sverige.
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I think it's sad that we voted no.

Jävla arbetslösa norrlänningar som bara lyfter bidrag istället för att skaffa sig ett jobb som sa nej.
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På heltid, deltid, övertid?
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It doesent matter if you join or not
absolutly nothing happend to the danish economy
because of our NO wote.

What does matter is that swedens main marked
(like denmark) is the EU. So if you like it or not, the
swedish economy is depending on the Euro.

Now you are just in the same shithole as Denmark
Your economy have to follow what ever goes on in
the EU, and you cant even bitch about it

Sorry to say, but I dont think EU will care alot
about your NO vote
You realy just fucked your self
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It doesent matter if you join or not
absolutly nothing happend to the danish economy
because of our NO wote.

What does matter is that swedens main marked
(like denmark) is the EU. So if you like it or not, the
swedish economy is depending on the Euro.

Now you are just in the same shithole as Denmark
Your economy have to follow what ever goes on in
the EU, and you cant even bitch about it

Sorry to say, but I dont think EU will care alot
about your NO vote
You realy just fucked your self
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Jag är inte direkt outbildad och tjänar en jävla massa stålar, ändå rösta jag nej, varför? Därför att rent ekonomiskt är det inget som garanterar att det inte går åt helvete om vi går med i EMU.
Ni kommer dessutom att tjäna på att inte gå med, eftersom det kommer med största sannolikhet innebära en lägre kronkurs vilket i sin tur innebär att dollarn blir mer värd.

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It doesent matter if you join or not
absolutly nothing happend to the danish economy
because of our NO wote.

What does matter is that swedens main marked
(like denmark) is the EU. So if you like it or not, the
swedish economy is depending on the Euro.

Now you are just in the same shithole as Denmark
Your economy have to follow what ever goes on in
the EU, and you cant even bitch about it

Sorry to say, but I dont think EU will care alot
about your NO vote
You realy just fucked your self
Easy tiger... nobody is getting fucked, really... we "survived" a long time (mankind) without the ? and we can for sure continue in denmark, sweden & UK without the ?. Now I am sure that within 2-3 years you can spend ?'s anywhere in those countries, so for the normal person who does not have to buy/sell anything abroard you will be doing just fine...

Other countries are actually suffering because of the ?, fx. Ireland which has a very high inflation-rate cannot raise the interest-rate in order to lower inflation, as the monetary policy is a euro-wide decision... now that can really hurt an economy... anyway this topic is really a never ending story.... and there is a lot of pros and cons which are both valid...

I live in Vienna and things went up almost 30% in many areas, that sucks... and to Ludvig: de har skam også totalt lækre babes på island!!!
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I predict more countries will soon turn back from the Euro.
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I predict more countries will soon turn back from the Euro.
No they wont but the countries that run the Euro side by side with their own existing currency will continue to prosper as they are now.
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Jag är inte direkt outbildad och tjänar en jävla massa stålar, ändå rösta jag nej, varför? Därför att rent ekonomiskt är det inget som garanterar att det inte går åt helvete om vi går med i EMU.
Det finns inget som garanterar att det inte går åt helvete om vi stannar utanför heller. Ditt argument håller inte.
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My uncle is a famous polish painter in Stockholm..but he voted no!
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When we have the same taxes, hell yes I vote yes but now when the economy run fine for Sweden but a little bit slower for the rest of Europe I vote no....


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Hahaha!! Om du kollar på kartan så ser du att det bara var Stockholm och Skåne som hade ja majoritet. Inte fan är väl resten av Sverige norrland?

Om du någonsin varit norröver så kanske du är medveten om att åldersfördelningen är mycket större där, dvs att det bor många fler äldre i jämförelse med yngre. Du kanske också har märkt att det inte finns så många stora företag eller jobb där så euron hade inte gjort det bättre för dem.

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Det finns inget som garanterar att det inte går åt helvete om vi stannar utanför heller. Ditt argument håller inte.
Nä det finns inga garantier för nåt, men det är betydlig mindre sannolikt att det går åt helvete med kronan med tanke på att det fungerat hyfsat de sista hundra åren. EMU är ett högrisk experiment, det är inga unioner av den typen som har hållit i längden. Jag hoppas att dom får EMU att fungera och då tycker jag vi kan gå med, men jag tycker inte det är värt riskerna att gå med nu med tanke på hur situationen ser ut.
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Old 09-15-2003, 03:34 AM   #44
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Delaying the inevitable.
Exactly.
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EMU är ett högrisk experiment,

det är inga unioner av den typen som har hållit i längden.

Jag hoppas att dom får EMU att fungera och då tycker jag vi kan gå med, men jag tycker inte det är värt riskerna att gå med nu med tanke på hur situationen ser ut.
1) @ first yes, but now no , you can hardly call the 2.biggest economy in the world an experiment anymore

2) USA ?

3) It works even without you
And you risk more by standing outside, caus you dont have any political influens on what is going on on your main markeds
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Delaying the inevitable.
Inevitable only because big business and corrupt politicians want it to be so.

With the introduction of total EU control in the future, I think we will most likely witness an increase in political assasinations.
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I voted no.

Why? Because it´s my right to do so if I wanna
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I voted no.

Why? Because it´s my right to do so if I wanna
LOL
I have a bit more respect for that ,
then all the lame "arguments" people come up with
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1) @ first yes, but now no , you can hardly call the 2.biggest economy in the world an experiment anymore

2) USA ?

3) It works even without you
And you risk more by standing outside, caus you dont have any political influens on what is going on on your main markeds
That is my opinion and the reason I voted no. If you have another opinion I respect that.
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That is my opinion and the reason I voted no. If you have another opinion I respect that.
I am a bit "black - white" on this, I know

I HAVE been a big NO voter
and am still very critical about whats going on in the EU.

But a lot of the debate in Denmark (and in Sweeden)
is based on some strange idears and "feelings" , not facts
and thats a pity.

like "we know what we got, not what we get" &
"we have a better system than the rest" kind of things
Lots of danes still belive in the last statement
regardless the danish healthcare system is way behind
the rest of europe
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