Please give me some Tips how to sell good content - GoFuckYourself.com

CrystalClear · 06-09-2003, 04:38 AM

I mean live content with chat 24/7

Timi · 06-09-2003, 04:40 AM

Easy really - Just discount it by between 80 and 95% like some of the others

Timi · 06-09-2003, 04:48 AM

Oh, forgot to tell you - You've gotta be a marketing genius to discount like that !!!

CrystalClear · 06-09-2003, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timi
Easy really - Just discount it by between 80 and 95% like some of the others

Ok, i do that all the time (good discounts). But how to bring the Information about it to the Adultwebmasters?

Loch · 06-09-2003, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timi
Oh, forgot to tell you - You've gotta be a marketing genius to discount like that !!!

FUCK....
guess i dont know shit then

Loch · 06-09-2003, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrystalClear

Ok, i do that all the time (good discounts). But how to bring the Information about it to the Adultwebmasters?

Errrrr

*Walks out the room while covering hes face to hide the mad laughter*

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 04:54 AM

Sobegirl will start MasterClasses at Internext in FL this August
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you sign up now and book your seat at this valuable event!

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lil2rich4u2 · 06-09-2003, 04:54 AM

give it away for free like everyone else.

seems theres someone giving free content every day now

Paul Markham · 06-09-2003, 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timi
Easy really - Just discount it by between 80 and 95% like some of the others

Take no notice of this guy. It's after lunch and need to say no more than.

You don't need to discount that much to sell GOOD content. Unless you are some ace marketing man who knows the business inside out and intends to change the content industry.

But Amacontent thinks heavy discounting trashes content and makes it worthless. But what does he know, he's not a marketing ace.

Two schools of thought here I guess. It depends if you spent a fortune, 100s of hours and put piece of you into creating it. Or you just come in with low overheads and nothing to lose.

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 04:58 AM

Sorry forgot to mention that apart from
Likewhoa

Sobegirl
is also BP4L! (butt probed 4 life)

DynaMite

Paul Markham · 06-09-2003, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Sobegirl will start MasterClasses at Internext in FL this August
where he will go into deep detail about this subject. I suggest
you sign up now and book your seat at this valuable event!

DynaMite

You meant to say Eric and ................

My staff want to know why I fell on the floor in tears of laughter.

Loch · 06-09-2003, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
You meant to say Eric and ................

My staff want to know why I fell on the floor in tears of laughter.

Poor CZ chair?

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 05:09 AM

I was told not to post this but here are some of the points on the
agenda at this MasterClass:

1: how to sell content without having licenses.
2: bypassing the 18 U.S.C. '2257 laws
3: how to twist around verbal agreements
4: Sending meaningless fake contract/drafts for your own benefit
5: Message board ethics
6: A deep look into Pissfights
7: Defining new meanings to the Term Exclusive
8: Making up new compression methods and giving them names
9: Video Producer Lingo.....
10: Bar Mitswa and time for social networking.

Don't miss out people!

DynaMite

Paul Markham · 06-09-2003, 05:11 AM

Thank you to the supporter who sent this.

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
You meant to say Eric and ................

My staff want to know why I fell on the floor in tears of laughter.

Yeah thanks for reminding. This MasterClass of course could not
be held without the generous Sponsorship by Joe from

http://www.amacontent.com/

DynaMite

Paul Markham · 06-09-2003, 05:31 AM

This is not fair on Crystal so here goes. And this is IMHO

The way to sell anything is firstly to get people to know you, it can be as a poodle licking up to them or as an Alsatian barking at things you think are wrong.

What you have to show is you are consistent and not just here for a few weeks then disappear again. To only re-appear when you have a new product to launch.

Then you have to show you are honest and straight and even when you make a mistake are prepared to pay for it.

Then there is the actual product, make sure that people get a good product not a good deal, cheap shit still smells. Make sure that when you get a client you keep them, put a piece of you into your work.

I'm one of the few guys here who is prepared to put his name next to his product. Even though someone else may have shot it it bears my name and I'm responsible.

Try to make your product a little better and a little different than all the others available. Style and class sells, even if it's in the amateur niche.

Then it is just time, when it's appropriate post a link to what you do, show people what you do. Be proud of it and be yourself, do not try to fit into a false character, be true unto yourself.

Timi · 06-09-2003, 05:38 AM

Go to his WWW site Charly - He has been in the business a long long while - and without a doubt the biggest sex operator in the Czech Republic !!!

CrystalClear · 06-09-2003, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timi
Go to his WWW site Charly - He has been in the business a long long while - and without a doubt the biggest sex operator in the Czech Republic !!!

But the question was from me personaly - and i am new in this business. Denis

Loch · 06-09-2003, 05:59 AM

If your new in this business you got to be prepared for several things.
1. HARD work with next to no profit till you build up a name and reputation.
2. Keep at it although it might look a bit "Dark" after 6 months.
3. Have a cash buffer to keep shooting, no cash no go.
4. Make alliances.

Give the best service you possible can!
And not only for the "big" guys buying for thousands of $$$
IMO the little guys is just "if not more" important to our survival!
Keep your quality standards high or section out your crap, you do not want to be mixing the 2....

ServerGenius · 06-09-2003, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrystalClear

But the question was from me personaly - and i am new in this business. Denis

You work for PK62, Send my regards to Pavel K.

DynaSpain (Hans Waasdorp)

CrystalClear · 06-09-2003, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain

You work for PK62, Send my regards to Pavel K.

DynaSpain (Hans Waasdorp)

ok

Paul Markham · 06-09-2003, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timi
Go to his WWW site Charly - He has been in the business a long long while - and without a doubt the biggest sex operator in the Czech Republic !!!

Oh yes I know these guys, they had a stand at the Amsterdam show. Had some cute girls on on it as well as I remember.

(1) Well one of the best ways would be to put a banner into your signature linked to your site.

(2) Then maybe some affiliations with other people supplying products to webmasters which are not in competition to yours.

(4) Target some people you actually want to do business with and phone them, or ICQ.

(4) Send some cute girls over to us.

(5) If you are going to Miami, with some girls do a sponsorship event where I shoot the girls and we have a perty.

(6) Send some cute girls over to me.

Personally I think 4 and 6 are the best ways but hope I've given you some ideas.

prostock · 06-09-2003, 10:34 AM

charly has alot of good things to say to you , and just rember like one said , never forget the smaller guys they are the ones that will for sure always remeber you ,
i always do my best to work with them cutt them a break and help they out , i am not a great big fish around here but i do hold my own and do pretty well and i can rember when i was very little and all was a big help

stay cool to them and if you fuck up be the first to admit it not let the other be the first , go to him and even the board and say and tell the pub hey i had a mess up or a fuck up what ever it maybe but man i am sorry and will make sure i make up for it 100 time fold ,
only threee times was i late with content , and i was in the hospital with lungcancer for two times and the other time my home got brok into and shit got stolen and they kind of fucked me , but that wasnt the buyer prob it was mine and i can promiss i made up for it to them big time and they are to this day more then happy ,

just my

Zappu · 06-09-2003, 11:40 PM

Some things Charly has forgotten:

7) Spam like hell as he is doing it

8) You have to shoot the Girls, because he is just fucking them

GrimShawn · 06-10-2003, 12:12 AM

Exposure man exposure!

Hit the boards, the shows, list links to the demo and etc, get people talking about it. Give it to a couple of bigger heads for free for a month or 2 on a trial basis, if they have no problems they will buy it and get a lot of other people wanting it! Everyone talks and if one person backs a product others will follow!

Paul Markham · 06-10-2003, 12:57 AM

Prostock has some good advice there. Ignore his spelling it's the message that is important. This business is about the little man as much or even more than the big man. One has 300 members and 5 sites and pays XX for your content, the other has 50,000 members and 20 sites and wants to pay the same or less.

Zappu also has some good points, remember this is an adult webmasters board and even though some of the posters think it's a playground and business is not to be discussed, it is for doing businees. And don't fuck the models till after the shoot, cream pie is a limited niche.

Sassyass · 06-10-2003, 05:41 AM

Your on the wrong board to ask this question.
9 out of 10 posters here are 19-24 year old pot smoking wastes that run little TGP sites, got a hold of dream weaver and think they are programmers, and basically have ZERO to offer the business.
If you product is good, it will sell. Buy some advertising space, build a small site around your content to show pay site owning webmasters what you have, and then work you ass off to make them happy.

And when Lens states spam day, spam the shit out of your product.

Civic3D · 06-10-2003, 06:55 AM

reseller

CrystalClear · 06-10-2003, 06:58 AM

Thanx!!!!!!

Paul Markham · 06-10-2003, 07:29 AM

Sassyass
Sorry but not so, there are some big players here. Plus a lot of people who understand business.

Not me though.

Libertine · 06-10-2003, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sassyass
Your on the wrong board to ask this question.
9 out of 10 posters here are 19-24 year old pot smoking wastes that run little TGP sites, got a hold of dream weaver and think they are programmers, and basically have ZERO to offer the business.
If you product is good, it will sell. Buy some advertising space, build a small site around your content to show pay site owning webmasters what you have, and then work you ass off to make them happy.

And when Lens states spam day, spam the shit out of your product.

You might want to change your payment system to something other than paypal.

Sassyass · 06-10-2003, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by punkworld

You might want to change your payment system to something other than paypal.

Why?
If I get shut down, I have my own merchant account that I can use. Just haven't bothered to change over my code.
If that was an attempt to cut me, it hurt.... real bad

I can't believe that you would think less of someone who gets the job done using the path of least resistance.
Shows smart business sense..

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Sassyass
Sorry but not so, there are some big players here. Plus a lot of people who understand business.
Not me though.

You know if your not one of those that I have mentioned. But you must admit that what I said is correct. I'll be nice and say 7 out of 10.

06-09-2003, 04:38 AM	#1
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06-09-2003, 04:40 AM	#2
Timi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 413	Easy really - Just discount it by between 80 and 95% like some of the others

06-09-2003, 04:48 AM	#3
Timi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 413	Oh, forgot to tell you - You've gotta be a marketing genius to discount like that !!!

06-09-2003, 05:11 AM	#14
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06-09-2003, 05:31 AM	#16
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	This is not fair on Crystal so here goes. And this is IMHO The way to sell anything is firstly to get people to know you, it can be as a poodle licking up to them or as an Alsatian barking at things you think are wrong. What you have to show is you are consistent and not just here for a few weeks then disappear again. To only re-appear when you have a new product to launch. Then you have to show you are honest and straight and even when you make a mistake are prepared to pay for it. Then there is the actual product, make sure that people get a good product not a good deal, cheap shit still smells. Make sure that when you get a client you keep them, put a piece of you into your work. I'm one of the few guys here who is prepared to put his name next to his product. Even though someone else may have shot it it bears my name and I'm responsible. Try to make your product a little better and a little different than all the others available. Style and class sells, even if it's in the amateur niche. Then it is just time, when it's appropriate post a link to what you do, show people what you do. Be proud of it and be yourself, do not try to fit into a false character, be true unto yourself. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-09-2003, 05:38 AM	#17
Timi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 413	Go to his WWW site Charly - He has been in the business a long long while - and without a doubt the biggest sex operator in the Czech Republic !!!

06-09-2003, 05:59 AM	#19
Loch Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,674	If your new in this business you got to be prepared for several things. 1. HARD work with next to no profit till you build up a name and reputation. 2. Keep at it although it might look a bit "Dark" after 6 months. 3. Have a cash buffer to keep shooting, no cash no go. 4. Make alliances. Give the best service you possible can! And not only for the "big" guys buying for thousands of $$$ IMO the little guys is just "if not more" important to our survival! Keep your quality standards high or section out your crap, you do not want to be mixing the 2.... __________________ Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com

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prostock On probation Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: not telling you , the exwife might find me Posts: 4,160	charly has alot of good things to say to you , and just rember like one said , never forget the smaller guys they are the ones that will for sure always remeber you , i always do my best to work with them cutt them a break and help they out , i am not a great big fish around here but i do hold my own and do pretty well and i can rember when i was very little and all was a big help stay cool to them and if you fuck up be the first to admit it not let the other be the first , go to him and even the board and say and tell the pub hey i had a mess up or a fuck up what ever it maybe but man i am sorry and will make sure i make up for it 100 time fold , only threee times was i late with content , and i was in the hospital with lungcancer for two times and the other time my home got brok into and shit got stolen and they kind of fucked me , but that wasnt the buyer prob it was mine and i can promiss i made up for it to them big time and they are to this day more then happy , just my __________________ ICQ # :158519717

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GrimShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BONEPRONE MANSION serving drinks! Posts: 8,120	Exposure man exposure! Hit the boards, the shows, list links to the demo and etc, get people talking about it. Give it to a couple of bigger heads for free for a month or 2 on a trial basis, if they have no problems they will buy it and get a lot of other people wanting it! Everyone talks and if one person backs a product others will follow!

06-10-2003, 12:57 AM	#26
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Prostock has some good advice there. Ignore his spelling it's the message that is important. This business is about the little man as much or even more than the big man. One has 300 members and 5 sites and pays XX for your content, the other has 50,000 members and 20 sites and wants to pay the same or less. Zappu also has some good points, remember this is an adult webmasters board and even though some of the posters think it's a playground and business is not to be discussed, it is for doing businees. And don't fuck the models till after the shoot, cream pie is a limited niche. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

06-10-2003, 05:41 AM	#27
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	Your on the wrong board to ask this question. 9 out of 10 posters here are 19-24 year old pot smoking wastes that run little TGP sites, got a hold of dream weaver and think they are programmers, and basically have ZERO to offer the business. If you product is good, it will sell. Buy some advertising space, build a small site around your content to show pay site owning webmasters what you have, and then work you ass off to make them happy. And when Lens states spam day, spam the shit out of your product.

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06-10-2003, 07:29 AM	#30
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Sassyass Sorry but not so, there are some big players here. Plus a lot of people who understand business. Not me though. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70