ferrari 365 GTC/4 0 - 100 kmph = 6,7 seconds

tesla S - 0 - 100 kmph = 2,7 seconds

come to germany with your ferrari i show you my backlights.

Ill beat your tesla with my 4 door family sedan with 650+ AWHP on E85 or methanol. And ill do it with a trunk full of groceries too :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

for me its less about performance and more about the style, sound and time those cars came from. camero, chevelle, gto, cuda, charger, etc. these are the kinds of cars i am into. i don't care for sports cars like ferarri and such.

Tesla may be faster; Ferrari would definitely be more fun.

I have driven electric (and been stuck behind numerous); they suck if you drive for pleasure.

Except your fun stop after x amount of miles for a charge. mine stops for 5 minutes while i fuel up at the pump. I go on 200+ mile cruises with my car clubs with spirited driving. Thats not happening in an electric car anytime soon. 300mile range on a tesla while you beat the balls off it will not be a reality.

Plussss you also have the fun factor of being BUILT not BOUGHT. Whats the fun in buying a car thats fast right out of the box? No challenge in that whatsoever.

Can your electric plastic wannabe-car travel back in time? Because it would have to be 1971 for the Ferrari GTC/4.

Again someone speaking the truth. I've driven an electric and it feels like I'm inside a child's toy. Plus there's very little road feel and almost no "instinctive communication" between the vehicle and the driver.

Putin has uranium power plants in the USA. He can sell green energy for you :1orglaugh

I wonder how he got all that from the U.S.? I wonder who signed that deal???

And half an hour later you have to plug it in to recharge.

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sure you do - you guys also think to make america great again.
keep on dreaming and try to prevent such bets with someone in your near - you will loose all.

i can´t go 600 km in half an hour :-)

but i am sure YOU CAN

you must have a fucking small dick !!!!

Lol....i ran an 11.7 before I got my transmission built and converted to E85 which added an extra 76HP

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Im ready when you are...should be in an extremely low 11/high 10 sec range with slicks. This is on 20" wheels with a system in my trunk

An electric car can't match the hard driving style of a gasoline/diesel powered car.

If you do that, you'll drain your battery withing an hour.

You can't effectively: drive uphill, heat/AC the car, load it up, etc - all that drains the fuck out of your battery. Have fun recharging several times per day.

wiki:

"Ferrari 365 GTB/4 is a two-seat grand tourer produced by Ferrari from 1968 to 1973"

good comparison grandpa.. now tell us the time to charge your EV crap once it gets discharged :1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Look at all the right wing Putin shill nics against green energy... that says it all right there :2 cents:

Robbie (not fake nic)
Google Expert
Sarn
SpicyM (3rd worlder fake nic)
Acepimp
JoshuaG
Notinmybackyard

Every single fake Putin shill nic is against green energy. They hit it at all angles like flies on shit BINGO!

Yay im not a shill

You do know where electricity in your socket comes from, right?

By burning shitload of tonnes of coal / running nuclear plants.

You "green energy" retard.

No worries.

You may want to reconsider one day, because blah blah blah...

Like I said earlier, I miss my Camaro. I saw a classic '69 Firebird the other day, all black, for $50,000. If I had the disposable income, I would have bought it. Classic cars are freakin cool...

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it takes 75 minutes to charge it 100% .. but even that is with the fucking super charger only :1orglaugh:1orglaugh what an idiot :1orglaugh

https://www.cars.com/articles/2013/1...attery-charge/

"With a single charger connected to a 240-volt outlet, which Tesla recommends, the pace speeds up to 31 miles of range for each hour of charging, and a full 300-mile charge takes less than 9.5 hours".


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Ethanol destroys older engines and their fuel systems. You try to put fuel with a high amount of ethanol into older cars, it eats all those old rubber fuel lines and engine seals.

There is a reason all the manufacturers had to start building ethanol friendly engines in their newer cars just for today's current fuel ratio of "less" than 10% of it being mixed in.

Ethanol was the worst scam they ever pushed you can thank George Bush Jr for that one...

Just uninformed.. :1orglaugh

senseless to discuss with them - they know all - that´s because trump gave them the feeling to be on the winner side once in their fucking life.

let them enjoy this few months of victory - they have nothing else in their life.
they hate all what they can´t understand or can´t afford.

So you had to spend all that money & add slicks to match a stock electric Tesla.. Just imagine if they put slicks on the Tesla :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm posing real people's experience feedback. You are linking to advertised info from the user manual.

I guess it's fine to have a tiny electric car for a woman to drive groceries shopping or pick up kids from school. But it's not a man's car you can rely on / have fun with.

My entire fuel system has been replaced to accommodate E85. Lines, fuel rails, pumps, injectors, return system, etc...nothing is stock about my car except for the chassis itself. The car is also a 2015...so not old. Oh and forged internals capable of 1200+ hp :1orglaugh

Y'all can keep trying. I know how to build a car the proper way. Its not completed yet either. YSI larger blower (supercharger) is getting installed. it makes 650 on 15 psi...its going to be pushing close to 30 by beginning of fall. Currently the worlds highest HP Q50 and I plan on making it a difficult job for anyone to touch that record.

I still spent less than what a tesla costs...by about 1/2. Car is sponsored by one of the best shops who work on these engines in the country.

Funny you compare the car to ferrari's yet here you have an mid sized family sedan putting up a fight :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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That was for thommy and his EV crap :winkwink:


I would never buy EV crap that takes more than 10 minutes to charge. I usually consider the 3-minute routine of filling up my car as too long and boring already :1orglaugh

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Idiots don't get that the plastics in their EV craps are actually made of petroleum too :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Only portion of that is recycled.

Gotcha. I admit I was initially confused by your post but then decided to reply. These morons are posting so much nonsense, it's like a mind fuck, can't figure out if it's for real or heavy trolling.


I bet the limited-life-span energy cells aren't too green either. Have they moved away from Lead yet?

Lead acid battery cannot be discharged too deeply. And the Toyota Prius battery (previous generation non-Lithium) stays between 20% to 80% charge. Not 0% to 100%.

It's a fuckign clusterfuck i'm not willing to get involved in. Musk should stick to launching his rockets.

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I'm 6'1" and I'm the biggest dick I know.

I was the owner of that beautiful machine.
So everyone please raise their hand if they have owned a brand new (ie: never used) Ferrari from the money they made in the jizz biz.

you fake nic !!!!!!! :Oh crap

I'm not even American and I've made it very clear that I vote for NOBODY.

But I will vote for the first SOB that promises me

A. Free hookers (or at least subsidized)
B. The right to drive a dragster the wrong way down a one way street at full throttle.
C. No taxes ever
D. Mandatory free boob jobs for any woman with less than a C cup.

probably you don´t know that there are people here who could buy 10 of that crap but they might have better things to do with their money.

It says a lot about you and your personality when you dress up the shoe which was not intended for you

Boom! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

And I'll bet that you're not one of those people so I don't really give a shit what you think.

Plus I'll do whatever the fuck I want with my money because I'm an old man that doesn't want to leave it to anyone.

What's the main appeal of electric cars for you guys? All I can think of are numerous downsides and the only potential upside is a warm fuzzy feeling that you are saving the environment not unlike the feeling that vegetarians get.

I randomly bought a Prius, after having one as a rental when I got rear-ended, it was the only car they had left. I was travelling from the OC to LA daily and quickly learned to love that car. So efficient. So quiet. Save tons of $$$ in gas. Holds its ressle value. Thats why I got an electric hybrid, none that saving the world green bullshit.

Of course! Some people, like my brother, LOVE combustion engines. The sound, the smell, the rumble, etc. It's totally cool to be enthusiastic about this.

I on the other hand am enthusiastic about EV's. I see the problems with combustion engines (low efficiency, too much energy lost to heat, too heavy and too many moving parts, etc) vs electric. I think EV's are high tech, and I love all things high tech.

Who says you can't mod an electric car?

Of course you can tune them. Geeze.

Of course, but the same thing happens when you tune a combustion engine car too. If the manufacturing spec says you get 100% off the lot, then you tune the car to increase compression, your motor runs harder, and gets hotter.

Then you need to add an oil cooler and maybe swap the thermostat. Then you change the transmission because the increased tourque is causing it to wear out faster. Next your tires can't stick to the road thanks to the increased speed so you swap them for stickier tires which of course get used up faster too. Etc etc etc.

It's simple physics: More energy - less time (more speed) = more heat = faster wear and tear, regardless of the power source.

So is Crocket wrong about you?

Not true. The environmental costs are recovered quickly. On average, a mid-size electric car will break even on carbon production from manufacturing after 8,000 kilometres of driving. A full-size electric will cross that threshold at 32,000 kilometres. After that, it?s almost all zero-emissions gravy depending on the electricity source.


Not true. Tesla Motors was incorporated in July, 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, who financed the company until the Series A round of funding. Elon Musk led the Series A round of investment in February, 2004, joining Tesla's Board of Directors as its Chairman. Musk did not build Tesla from the ground up. He was a significant investor to the company a short while after creation. He used his money from the sale of PayPal.

With all due respect, you're the one who seems to be getting their facts wrong...

But why? Hemp (and other biofuels) still adds CO2 to the atmosphere, are still very expensive, requires complex engines with lots of moving parts like gasoline engines do now, requires refinement (more co2), delivery to gas stations (more co2), and contains less energy so performance suffers. EV's have none of these problems.

Not everywhere. Here in Canada only about 12% of electricity comes from coal, and in case you haven't been paying attention, coal is dying fast in the US, and yes even in China.


I think you are talking about electromagnetic non-ionizing radiation.

Mean magnetic fields ranged from nominally 0.6 to 3.5 µT, compared with nominally 0.4 to 0.6 µT for gasoline vehicles, well within published exposure limits for the general population. (Gasoline cars spew electromagnetic radiation from the spark plugs and generator).

The bigger risk to people is of course the pollution they send out the exhaust, but also from the toxic chemicals that are used to make the dashboard and other interior parts of your car. (Always open the windows when you get in your car for a few minutes as sunlight might cause fumes from those chemicals to be released).


True, but I think some older gasoline cars, especially classic cars, will go way up in value.

When did I ever say that I don't like cars? I love cars, good buddy!


That is not at all what I said. Need a nap?

You win! I never have.

I hope you tipped him well!


Hey man fuck you I am not a "goon" - I am a "DORK!" Get it right for fucksakes! :)

I would love the Tesla Model X SUV. Would you buy one for me mr Ferrariman?


I do! Why are you avoiding me?

I have!

I have! Have you?


Sadly, I am 100% sure you are right.

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Yep! Losing a race sounds like more fun. You kinda sound like a jock that's is all muscle and know brains, losing a race to someone who is much smarter than you, but not understanding why. LOL.

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Tesla will be showing off a electric 10 wheeler sometime this year.


Also there is already this one.. it's electric powered but uses a hydrogen fuel cell to charge the battery. It already has a thousand mile range.

Nikola Motor unveils 1,000 HP hydrogen-electric truck with 1,200 mi. range

Now this company might actually be on the right track, using hydrogen to keep the battery charged.

It will be interesting to see what Musk has coming as well, because he's no dummy.

Please show me one tuned reliable electric vehicle that doesnt require a charging station directly at the track in order to run its fastest pass. I implore you.

I love the Tesla.

But I'd say that the very thing that makes it so fast is also the thing that takes away from the driver experience.

With electric motors there is no need for a transmission. The power goes straight to the wheels so you have full torque at any speed.

Super fast!
And like I said, I love the Tesla. Drove one at the end of last year (never got to drive the original little roadsters they made).

I would own a Tesla in a heartbeat and probably will in the near future.

But having said that...I don't think an electric car can ever give a real "car guy" the excitement and feel of a car that a stick shift sports car does.

Having to use the clutch and shifting...along with the rumble of the exhaust is just one of the funnest components of driving a sports car.

Now automatic transmission cars VS Tesla? I'll take the Tesla every day of the week.

Right now my garage is a steroided Jeep Wrangler and a new Mustang I just bought (5.0 V8 engine and 6 speed manual transmission).

But I would LOVE to add a Tesla into that mix. I'd probably drive the Tesla every day. And then if I were going out to dinner in the evening it would be the Mustang with the top down.

I definitely am NOT anti-electric car at all. :)

BladeLiar, are you retarded? I'm sorry, are you mentally challenged?? We pointed out that electric cars are powered by COAL when you plug in to charge. True or false? Mining for the battery material is destructive to the environment. True or false?

Also, I posted the greenest possible solution- plant-based fuel. Farmers are the solution. So how the fuck am I a Putin shill against green energy? Explain it to us, please :1orglaugh

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Hey Thommy- where did you get these numbers? Pulling them out of your ass does not mean they are factual.

One acre of HEMP will produce 1800 gallons of oil- or 42 barrels of oil. ONE ACRE. That's 0.4 hectares for you Europeans.

Here's the math buddy: Hemp Oil: Do some Math

So Thommy, got any other false info I can shoot down with facts? :1orglaugh

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I am too) But here only thommy to believe in what says Bladewire about others.
BladeLiar hate America and west culture :1orglaugh

I'm trying to care about all of this ...

Fertile land is scarce and is used for food and farming...if you start mass producing hemp it will raise food prices...Brazil could not pull it off with biofuel, your chances are none...

No matter what: Fertile land is scarce and it's a problem already...infrastructure is a problem too...biofuel is just a small scale solution...