Best AVS for Premium sites and WHY? - GoFuckYourself.com

Sly_RJ · 03-29-2003, 02:14 PM

Which AVS system do you like best for Premium sites in regard to conversions, traffic, retention, rules?

And why?

Please list your referrals. If you answer each question, I'll join under you.

Fletch XXX · 03-29-2003, 02:21 PM

<a href=https://www.proadult.com/avs/wmapply.cgi?4306>ProAdult</a>

Awesome retention, folks like Bikini Voyeur use it, and you can even set up webmaster affiliates if you ever get to that.

Clearly the choice for long running Premium AVS sites.

Good luck Sly.

and Cheers.

Sarah_Jayne · 03-29-2003, 02:25 PM

For me it is CyberAge . They convert well for me. I do a lot of ultra niche type of things and I think the people that join my platinum sites like that not only am I offering them this site that they never thought they would find but I am also offering them a bunch of mainstream stuff through the other sites on Cyberage.

They also retain like mad, I have had maybe 2 people cancel before I got atleast one rebill out of them but on some of my fetish sites I have people that have been rebilling for seven months or more.

Their rules are pretty liberal but what I really like is that they answer emails. If you have a problem with not being put on the list, which I have had a couple times recently, you just use their contact form and they usually respond back to you within 24 hours.

The link lists traffic is good stuff. I, like many, use it to feeder sites to upsell memberships and it does work.

FreeNetPass Dave · 03-29-2003, 02:34 PM

Try FreeNetPass Premium.

Webmasters that use it know our retentions are some of the best in the industry. We offer loads of content for premium members and they have access to a lot of sites as well.

Some premium avs's (FreeNetPass being one of them, especially with top listed recommended sites) will send you traffic to your premium sites and you will make sales just by listing your sites on their link list. I suggest finding the ones that do this and using all, not just one ;)

Drake · 03-29-2003, 02:50 PM

Brand new and will retain well Adults Allowed

Argoz · 03-29-2003, 03:12 PM

Try Netverifier !!

xxxdesign-net · 03-29-2003, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeNetPass Dave
will send you traffic to your premium sites and you will make sales just by listing your sites on their link list.

What kind of traffic...?

Is it a exit popup chain from paysites and one popup is the directory list?

Can you tell me what kind of traffic will it be, how much traffic will you send and where it is coming from...!?

Backov · 03-29-2003, 03:48 PM

ProAdult rocks.

49thParallel · 03-29-2003, 04:07 PM

I have to agree with Fletch. ProAdult is the way to go. I have been doing AVS's for a couple of years, and I have switched a good portion of my efforts to ProAdult.

Good Payout - $14.00
Recurring can be substantial. I have many clients that stay for 8 months or longer.
Opportunity to set up you own affiliate program.

That said, Fletch suggested them first, so he deserves to have you sign-up under his name.

BV · 03-29-2003, 05:56 PM

ProAdult

www.bikinivoyeur.com/patour

ZoiNk · 03-29-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

What kind of traffic...?

Is it a exit popup chain from paysites and one popup is the directory list?

Can you tell me what kind of traffic will it be, how much traffic will you send and where it is coming from...!?

I don't know all of their details, Dave will probably give you a full answer. Most of their traffic is SE or members of FNP (free). So you have ppl with FNP memberships surfing the lists and keep hitting premium sites. They aren't owned by a large paysite group (as far as I know of), so it isn't fed by exit traffic from paysite like Oneverify or others are.
ZoiNk

Gutterboy · 03-29-2003, 06:02 PM

I love cyberage long time

FreeNetPass Dave · 03-29-2003, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZoiNk

I don't know all of their details, Dave will probably give you a full answer. Most of their traffic is SE or members of FNP (free). So you have ppl with FNP memberships surfing the lists and keep hitting premium sites. They aren't owned by a large paysite group (as far as I know of), so it isn't fed by exit traffic from paysite like Oneverify or others are.
ZoiNk

Correct. FNP premium is getting upsell traffic from the FNP free members that don't have premium passes.

juice · 03-29-2003, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FreeNetPass Dave

Correct. FNP premium is getting upsell traffic from the FNP free members that don't have premium passes.

Yeah, but aren't all AVS programs with regular and premium sites getting upsales from the "regular" members?

But can you be more precise about how much traffic you can deliver to the link list and where that traffic comes from... I bet they are not all coming from SE..

Also, how many Free members do you have?
Would you suggest to a webmaster to join the "free join/$15program" or is it already saturated?

CC · 03-29-2003, 10:00 PM

Here is another vote for Pro Adult Quantum

The retention is fucking incredible....best I've ever seen in a premium AVS.

Cassie

littlehead · 03-29-2003, 10:03 PM

Whats up

andrew1009 · 03-29-2003, 11:56 PM

Excellent rentention @ One Verify . Havn't had a single cancel yet! 60% revshare for a premium site. Free trial option for even better conversion rates...

Snake Doctor · 03-30-2003, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juice

Yeah, but aren't all AVS programs with regular and premium sites getting upsales from the "regular" members?

But can you be more precise about how much traffic you can deliver to the link list and where that traffic comes from... I bet they are not all coming from SE..

Also, how many Free members do you have?
Would you suggest to a webmaster to join the "free join/$15program" or is it already saturated?

Yes almost all AVS's that have regular and premium memberships get "upsales" from the regular members.
But FNP regular is free, whereas a lot other AVS's charge a quarterly fee to be a regular member, so my guess is its easier to upsell the FNP regular member to a premium site, since they're not paying any other monthly fees for porn.
I think with adult check now you have to pay the $20 a month for the gold sites, and you still have to pay $20 a quarter to get the regular sites, even if you have a gold ID.

As for your saturation question, I seriously doubt that an AVS can get "saturated". Since you're using your own tour to sell it, its a unique site to the surfer regardless of which avs you use.
If they already had an avs membership, I doubt they'd be looking for porn through SE's, or TGP's, or whatever other traffic sources you'd be using to feed your tour.

Big Monkie · 03-30-2003, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2

If they already had an avs membership, I doubt they'd be looking for porn through SE's, or TGP's, or whatever other traffic sources you'd be using to feed your tour.

Thats really only true for premium members. Doesnt take the regular members too long to see that the regular sites arent that much better than what the hun etc gives em. And since the regular memberships tend to be for multiple months, you will see a fair number of membership holders from those other traffic sources. Would be interesting to see some actual percentages but methinks no one really knows.

Niki · 03-30-2003, 03:56 PM

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hetomito · 03-30-2003, 04:35 PM

I used their (ProAdult's) Domain Hosting, it's very fast and
OK, also as far as I know you can host your TGP Galleries' html
files on their servers (no pics! only html)

Also you can try
AdultsAllowed
for your premium sites, they are brand new in town and
there is "hope" I see

- be my webmaster referall for these AVS's and
I will arrange you some free traffic from my toplists and
other sites. if you need more info, just post here or mail me.

03-29-2003, 02:14 PM	#1
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03-29-2003, 02:34 PM	#4
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03-29-2003, 02:25 PM	#3
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	For me it is CyberAge . They convert well for me. I do a lot of ultra niche type of things and I think the people that join my platinum sites like that not only am I offering them this site that they never thought they would find but I am also offering them a bunch of mainstream stuff through the other sites on Cyberage. They also retain like mad, I have had maybe 2 people cancel before I got atleast one rebill out of them but on some of my fetish sites I have people that have been rebilling for seven months or more. Their rules are pretty liberal but what I really like is that they answer emails. If you have a problem with not being put on the list, which I have had a couple times recently, you just use their contact form and they usually respond back to you within 24 hours. The link lists traffic is good stuff. I, like many, use it to feeder sites to upsell memberships and it does work.

03-29-2003, 02:50 PM	#5
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Brand new and will retain well Adults Allowed

03-29-2003, 03:12 PM	#6
Argoz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Qc Posts: 3,006	Try Netverifier !!

03-29-2003, 04:07 PM	#9
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	I have to agree with Fletch. ProAdult is the way to go. I have been doing AVS's for a couple of years, and I have switched a good portion of my efforts to ProAdult. Good Payout - $14.00 Recurring can be substantial. I have many clients that stay for 8 months or longer. Opportunity to set up you own affiliate program. That said, Fletch suggested them first, so he deserves to have you sign-up under his name.

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03-29-2003, 06:02 PM	#12
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03-29-2003, 10:00 PM	#15
CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	Here is another vote for Pro Adult Quantum The retention is fucking incredible....best I've ever seen in a premium AVS. Cassie

03-29-2003, 11:56 PM	#17
andrew1009 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 801	Excellent rentention @ One Verify . Havn't had a single cancel yet! 60% revshare for a premium site. Free trial option for even better conversion rates...

03-30-2003, 03:56 PM	#20
Niki Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,476	and the winner is .... : ProAdult anyone tried their domain freehost? is it fast??

03-30-2003, 04:35 PM	#21
hetomito Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: EU Posts: 446	I used their (ProAdult's) Domain Hosting, it's very fast and OK, also as far as I know you can host your TGP Galleries' html files on their servers (no pics! only html) Also you can try AdultsAllowed for your premium sites, they are brand new in town and there is "hope" I see - be my webmaster referall for these AVS's and I will arrange you some free traffic from my toplists and other sites. if you need more info, just post here or mail me. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.