Public rant about programs writing cheques - GoFuckYourself.com

Roald · 02-26-2013, 01:46 AM

Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques?

Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc.

Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID.

/ rant

epitome · 02-26-2013, 01:55 AM

I can see them not wanting to print it directly on the check but in that case just use one to a page checks and print it on the advice.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I can see them not wanting to print it directly on the check but in that case just use one to a page checks and print it on the advice.

Whatever, as long as they let you know who its from its fine by me.

MrDeiz · 02-26-2013, 02:13 AM

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EddyTheDog · 02-26-2013, 02:14 AM

Sponsors - Feel free to send me checks with anything you like on them....

Markul · 02-26-2013, 03:01 AM

Dude just send me the cheque (endorsed on the back) and I'll make the "problem" go away

On a more serious note, it is annoying, but the fact that banks in my country want thirty fucking dollars to cash one makes me more angry!

SomeCreep · 02-26-2013, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques?

Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc.

Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID.

/ rant

I agree. This has been a problem since the beginning of time.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

I agree. This has been a problem since the beginning of time.

It's amazing how it's still a problem after all these years.

TheSquealer · 02-26-2013, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

It's amazing how it's still a problem after all these years.

It's basic human behavior. You have a problem. You're motivated to solve it. It affects you. It's not their problem, they have little motivation to solve it and it doesn't directly affect them.

This is primarily what separates the professional from the unprofessional in any business.

anexsia · 02-26-2013, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques?

Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc.

Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID.

/ rant

I made sure to include our program "Hairy ass fucked bear men farting creampie cumshot Cash" on your latest check so you know who it's from!

My Fucking Traffic · 02-26-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

I made sure to include our program "Hairy ass fucked bear men farting creampie cumshot Cash" on your latest check so you know who it's from!

I'm sure FreeOne's bank knows what they do and isn't surprised by such a thing or discourage from accepting those checks.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by venusgal

I'm sure FreeOne's bank knows what they do and isn't surprised by such a thing or discourage from accepting those checks.

Exactly so yes please do

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques?

Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc.

Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID.

/ rant

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by venusgal

I'm sure FreeOne's bank knows what they do and isn't surprised by such a thing or discourage from accepting those checks.

Yeah well, I'll be sure to mosey on over to FreeOne's bank so they can tell my bank
how to run their business. Yep, that will work.

Jel · 02-26-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

You can then choose to promote programs called 'look at us we're too fucking stupid to have a pro sounding name as we have the mentality of 12 year olds' or not. To promote hundreds of 'normal' named programs, and have the same affiliate name on most of them, without an instant way to see who the check is from is a problem no-one should have in 2013.

signupdamnit · 02-26-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

This. ND used to write the account name on the check in the memo field and it used to cause me to get some second looks from the bank cashiers. Thankfully my account name wasn't something like "I_take_it_up_the_ass" but it was still adult.

Sometimes even the stubs are a problem. Long ago I made six figures with a certain AVS and they always put the name of your first site on the check stubs. Well when I bought my first new car I had to prove income and the way I had to do this was by showing check stubs. I ended up blacking out the name and the account number with black marker so it wouldn't look too suspicious. The name of that site wasn't that bad but I can imagine some people had far worse luck!

Jel · 02-26-2013, 09:52 AM

I can't think of a single check offhand that doesn't have the amount earned in the period, as well as the period, stated on the advice portion of the check anyway - none of that is also on the check, really, how hard is it to also have the program name on the advice portion? That's fucking basic stuff.

FreeHugeMovies · 02-26-2013, 09:59 AM

Bc. they are IDIOTS.

My Fucking Traffic · 02-26-2013, 10:41 AM

Or even a letter in the envelope with it stating who the program is and maybe a thank you for business and up and coming promos? Extra advertising!

Roald · 02-26-2013, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

It's the easy way to do things. Nothing to do with the above as there are many options to let the affiliate know what program it is from.

2013 · 02-26-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

It's the easy way to do things. Nothing to do with the above as there are many options to let the affiliate know what program it is from.

links to freeones pulled

LeRoy · 02-26-2013, 11:09 AM

Ooops!

We do this but its for good reasons I'm sure

International Payment Services = DTI Cash. The info in inside our program when you log and create an invoice.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

Ooops!

We do this but its for good reasons I'm sure

International Payment Services = DTI Cash. The info in inside our program when you log and create an invoice.

We are pushing 2000+ programs, really logging in to all of them to find out where a check is coming from is not making much sense.

We keep track of all company names though but the problems arise when companies change banks, billing companies, check writing services, merge, etc. So we can look for "International Payment Services" in our backend and if we received a check before DTI should come up.

LeRoy · 02-26-2013, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

We are pushing 2000+ programs, really logging in to all of them to find out where a check is coming from is not making much sense.

We keep track of all company names though but the problems arise when companies change banks, billing companies, check writing services, merge, etc. So we can look for "International Payment Services" in our backend and if we received a check before DTI should come up.

I can send an email notice with your invoice. That would help also.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

I can send an email notice with your invoice. That would help also.

Just checked you're in the system so no worries ;)

Roald · 02-26-2013, 11:29 AM

BTW just thinking about it but a lot of programs using paxum are doing the same thing. No matching program name addy, no simple note, nothing.

Jel · 02-26-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeRoy

I can send an email notice with your invoice. That would help also.

Is that really any difference with having to cross reference by pulling out data from a file anyway? Just so much easier to have who it's from when you open the envelope

Kenny B! · 02-26-2013, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

Here's an idea, drop a business card in with the check. The affiliate will not only know who it's from but also be able to reach their rep.

mineistaken · 02-26-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

This. ND used to write the account name on the check in the memo field and it used to cause me to get some second looks from the bank cashiers. Thankfully my account name wasn't something like "I_take_it_up_the_ass" but it was still adult.

Not this!

No need to print ID or program name on the cheque itself. You receive A4 size paper and only 1/3d of it is a cheque. Print program ID on the rest 2/3ds which you do not bring to the bank. Its that simple.

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Here's an idea, drop a business card in with the check. The affiliate will not only know who it's from but also be able to reach their rep.

People could also read the TOS and notice where they say "Checks will have ACME Web as the payer".

They could print that info on the pay stub also, like many have said; but I also remember the time
someone at the CCBill printing place put the check paper in the printer upside down.

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Not this!

No need to print ID or program name on the cheque itself. You receive A4 size paper and only 1/3d of it is a cheque. Print program ID on the rest 2/3ds which you do not bring to the bank. Its that simple.

Please see above post of mine.

tfs · 02-26-2013, 02:32 PM

That is why God invented accoutants.

Kenny B! · 02-26-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackmonsters

They could print that info on the pay stub also, like many have said; but I also remember the time
someone at the CCBill printing place put the check paper in the printer upside down.

Epoch has a mishap like that a few months ago, got a check on a regular piece of paper lol. They sent out a replacement right away but it was amusing none the less.

Also as far as Nats and Quickbooks goes it's easy peasy to have it set so the affiliate id shows up with the payment details on the stub. That said the issue is if an affiliate uses the same ID for every sponsor, or companies that own multiple programs use the same company checks to pay out for all programs.

Yngwie · 02-26-2013, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

It's the safe way to do things.

Some affiliate ID's are like "Fuckmaster11".
So they don't want that on the check.

Some program names are like "Fuck You Cash".
So they don't want that on the check.

And since 3rd parties most likely print the checks, the safe thing is to omit those items
from the data so the 3rd party doesn't print it anywhere.

You may not realize it, but some people can go to the bank with a check that
has "fuckmaster11" and deposit the check; but 3 days later they get
another check back in the mail with a letter stating "Your account has been close".

yes, but this does not have to be written on the check. it can be written on the other page that comes with the check in the envelope. This would not be seen by anyone besides the affiliate who opened the envelope. and yes, I understand the whole 3rd party thing, but still.

Jakez · 02-26-2013, 02:44 PM

I think we can all agree that the stub or some paper in the mailing envelope should have the program name, affiliate ID, etc. And the check can say whatever.

blackmonsters · 02-26-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

I think we can all agree that the stub or some paper in the mailing envelope should have the program name, affiliate ID, etc. And the check can say whatever.

Yeah, but the original complaint asked for it to be on the check.
So that is what I was focused on.

Roald · 02-26-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tfs

That is why God invented accoutants.

Oh ok I'll tell our accountant to get one

Roald · 02-26-2013, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Yeah, but the original complaint asked for it to be on the check.
So that is what I was focused on.

I don't care how its mentioned at all really

SCORE Ralph · 02-26-2013, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques?

Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc.

Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID.

/ rant

Cant tell you how many times we've actually gotten the opposite request.

suesheboy · 02-26-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Sponsors - Feel free to send me checks with anything you like on them....

brilliant...

The Porn Nerd · 02-26-2013, 03:59 PM

Well, gonna have to cancel that cheque now Roald......:D
I hear ya - privacy is irritating.

Vegas Ken · 02-26-2013, 04:00 PM

I second that motion!

ajrocks · 02-26-2013, 05:35 PM

The real question is why the hell are people still asking for checks in 2013?

MaDalton · 02-26-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

The real question is why the hell are people still asking for checks in 2013?

^^^^ that

i dont get why they are still used, in most countries they dont exist anymore since ages. here they look at us like aliens when we deposit a check - but not because what's written on there...

but for some weird reason we have some people who insist to pay this way

My Fucking Traffic · 02-26-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

The real question is why the hell are people still asking for checks in 2013?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

^^^^ that

i dont get why they are still used, in most countries they dont exist anymore since ages. here they look at us like aliens when we deposit a check - but not because what's written on there...

but for some weird reason we have some people who insist to pay this way

Because some people like a paper trail, and most places issue checks with no fee, so why should I pay $2 to get a digital payment when a check is just as reliable, and free... You're a big affiliate getting many checks a week, sometimes it's easier to keep track with a check than digital payments, and that $2 fee sometimes adds up a lot.

signupdamnit · 02-26-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

The real question is why the hell are people still asking for checks in 2013?

Simple answer in the US: because not all sponsors (including loadedcash?) offer free or reasonable cost ACH deposits. Wires are fine for payments above $1000 but it's still added fee$ for nothing. And when you're in the U.S. you don't need or want a middleman like Paxum.

Vendzilla · 02-26-2013, 07:09 PM

send the checks to epayservice, they can cash them for you. Make a spread sheet of the programs you use and build a list from there. One month of checking and it would be a lot easier

Roald · 02-26-2013, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

The real question is why the hell are people still asking for checks in 2013?

Problem is we have sooo many programs we promote that in a lot of cases we only make a few 100 a month with them so it's not worth paying high wire fees and all. So in a lot of cases best pick is the check option. Whenever they offer paxum though we move over of course as I think checks are indeed too last century

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

send the checks to epayservice, they can cash them for you. Make a spread sheet of the programs you use and build a list from there. One month of checking and it would be a lot easier

Lol come on, you can not be serious here

Gator · 02-27-2013, 12:49 AM

Damn what I tough job you have. I feel bad for you. More money, more problems.

2013 · 02-27-2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Gator

Damn what I tough job you have. I feel bad for you. More money, more problems.

i got 99 bitches but beyonce isn't one

02-26-2013, 01:46 AM	#1
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,880	Public rant about programs writing cheques Why is it so hard for programs to write down the company name or program name or affiliate ID on their cheques? Really it ridiculous how many times we get cheques with just a period on it. It's annoying and time consuming to find out what is from whom etc. Please programs, when you write out your cheques just include a program name on them or at least an affiliate ID. / rant __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

02-26-2013, 02:13 AM	#4
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02-26-2013, 02:14 AM	#5
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02-26-2013, 11:09 AM	#22
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,337	Ooops! We do this but its for good reasons I'm sure International Payment Services = DTI Cash. The info in inside our program when you log and create an invoice. __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Skype - leroy.rowland2

02-26-2013, 11:29 AM	#26
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,880	BTW just thinking about it but a lot of programs using paxum are doing the same thing. No matching program name addy, no simple note, nothing. __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| telegram: roaldr

02-26-2013, 01:55 AM	#2
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I can see them not wanting to print it directly on the check but in that case just use one to a page checks and print it on the advice.

02-26-2013, 03:01 AM	#6
Markul Likes Pie Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land that liberated porn Posts: 12,401	Dude just send me the cheque (endorsed on the back) and I'll make the "problem" go away On a more serious note, it is annoying, but the fact that banks in my country want thirty fucking dollars to cash one makes me more angry!

02-26-2013, 09:52 AM	#17
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	I can't think of a single check offhand that doesn't have the amount earned in the period, as well as the period, stated on the advice portion of the check anyway - none of that is also on the check, really, how hard is it to also have the program name on the advice portion? That's fucking basic stuff.

02-26-2013, 09:59 AM	#18
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	Bc. they are IDIOTS.

02-26-2013, 10:41 AM	#19
My Fucking Traffic So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 996	Or even a letter in the envelope with it stating who the program is and maybe a thank you for business and up and coming promos? Extra advertising!

02-26-2013, 02:32 PM	#32
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02-26-2013, 02:44 PM	#35
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	I think we can all agree that the stub or some paper in the mailing envelope should have the program name, affiliate ID, etc. And the check can say whatever. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati

02-26-2013, 03:59 PM	#41
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02-26-2013, 04:00 PM	#42
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02-26-2013, 05:35 PM	#43
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02-26-2013, 07:09 PM	#47
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,200	send the checks to epayservice, they can cash them for you. Make a spread sheet of the programs you use and build a list from there. One month of checking and it would be a lot easier __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

02-27-2013, 12:49 AM	#49
Gator Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't live on GFY Posts: 1,119	Damn what I tough job you have. I feel bad for you. More money, more problems.