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I can't go into lots of detail, however I have made the breakthrough with Paypal public. With the Paypal dialogue, it's not some pleb I am in contact with, it's the Head of Brand Risk Management of the Paypal legal department. You can't get any higher than her when it comes to shutting down Paypal accounts. The difficulty is that with many of these contacts I am making, it would jeopardize any action if I was specific about it on this or any other forum. So you'll just have to trust me. |
mmm... don't you fear consequences, like being sued for defamation etc for pointing fingers to all those sites.
I mean, this is not like calling some GFY member an idiot. I fear that you probably end up messing around with guys with a big legal team behind them (as well as big pockets) . Anyway good luck :) |
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This campaign just didn't appear overnight, it was the result of many months of planning and forethought, it started small but in just a few days became a major effort, so much so that I am dedicating 3 months full time to it.
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The ONLY way they can claim a safeharbor is if they're legitimately unaware of what's being uploaded. And in that case, the uploader is the willful infringer. You know what tubes are unaware of what's being uploaded? Tubes that have nothing on them. Yeah... that's because the owners are always aware of what's being uploaded... because it's them doing the uploading 99 times out of 100. And BTW, using a 3rd party fingerprinting product also doesn't mean shit for safeharbor. If I didn't fingerprint my content, they're still in violation if they're using it. So basically what I'm saying is there is literally no safeharbor loophole that would allow illegally used copyrighted content to stay online. |
Can we please keep this discussion to shutting down file lockers ? Discuss the tubes elsewhere. I want this thread focused on file lockers and not GFY shitfights about tubes or anything else for that matter.
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Great thread.
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nice one, bump to the bottom! :thumbsup
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You are making great advances AK, congrats.
But are you sure it is necessary to make more blogs at this point? Since you've been already hooked with the higherups at paypal and have their attention, maybe it'll be better to focus on posting quality content for your two current blogs that are already running? They seem to get the job done, why spread the resource (time and money) thinner than necessary? |
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Trust me, I'm not going to do anything that will distract me or take my time away from what's important. |
To the top we go
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Thanks to a suggestion from GFY we have now created the Twitter account @StopFileLockers and as suggested please use the hashtag #stopfilelockers
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PayPal protects their own Interests while lying to you.
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Dropbox is now stopping public accessible folders for its users. Most likely a bandwidth issue, but......
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Uploaded.to hosts pirate copies of Windows, Hollywood movies, music and full site rips of Porn sites.
http://stopfilelockers.com/uploaded-...-of-windows-7/ We're going to be going after this company hard. |
you forgot mediafire, and dropbox. They also have a bunch of copyright files and full siterips.. do you need some screenshots? I can provide.
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The blogs are a front end to the whole operation, people shouldn't think because a site isn't up there yet that we're not dealing with it. |
Dropbox has north of 50 million users
Owner Drew Houston has raised 275 million with a current valuation north of 5 billion and estimates of $200+ million revenue a year so far. I bet himself , Bono & Edge and Sequoia (early investors) would also question why they use paypal who work for the bad filelockers. Or perhaps they might also wonder what it was exactly people were storing in their public folders. I know they "cant" look in private ones, but surely they keep an eye on the public ones, or do they not want to know why they became so popular either...... |
How about...
https://youtube.com/results?searc...y="full+movie" https://youtube.com/results?search_query=execution https://youtube.com/results?search_query=lolita+sex (and I bet there's much worse stuff in privately kept videos which nobody can search/monitor) |
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You'll start to understand while file lockers are so bad, I'll demonstrate. |
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https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...freakshare.com About 856,000 results https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...e:mojohost.com About 79,200 results https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...te:filegag.com About 48,100 results https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...:filemates.com About 85,700 results https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...ite:asfile.com About 394,000 results https://youtube.com/results?searc...y="full+movie" About 11,400,000 results ... I am pretty sure youtube team is working hard on an advanced algorithm to ban files containing an array of keywords in the title... coming soon :1orglaugh |
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He states: "Paypal processes CP" when nobody has ever checked those files, what about writing: "Paypal is processing memberships for some file hosting websites and some of the files served use a title that indicates that the content might be related to CP ?" I am not saying he is doing a wrong thing but maybe he is doing the right thing in the wrong way and without thinking of consequences. Anyway it was just my advice (I am not a lawyer nor a judge) |
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This is not a frivolous case. |
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It does not matter if the files named as CP contain CP or not, the mere connotation that they do contributes to child exploitation and those seeking child exploitation material. It's also a clear breach of Mastercard, Visa and Paypal processing regulations. As I said. debate this in another thread, this thread is solely to focus on shutting down file lockers. |
that's a good battle
fuck the haters, those whining bitches you do the right thing and it changes the world |
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a comment from a fan of http://coldcopy.com.au
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By far the worst example of a smaller file locker that we have seen which specializes in highly illegal content and accepts Paypal as payment. What has been learned about this file locker has made me sick to my stomach.
http://stopfilelockers.com/tenfiles-...ld-pornography We will be paying extra special attention to closing this site down. |
This battle can be won as long as this is a long term project for Adult King and not something he's doing this week because he's excited.
It's something that he will need to stay on-top of forever. File hosting and Payment processing are two lucrative businesses that nobody will be willing to give up. New companies will always pop up. You also need to take this with a more anonymous approach you will get GFY and your own web properties, real life attacked. Yah you think you're tough but you're just very ignorant as to what you are doing. |
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Also, you are right (surprisingly) which is why a legally incorporated association is being established to build this campaign into an ongoing effort. |
Good job AK!
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Megashare, operating since 2004 but not for very much longer. We are at quite an advanced stage of dealing with this site.
http://stopfilelockers.com/megashare...st-for-piracy/ I suspect there will be a lot of uploaders and affiliates very annoyed when they stop being paid. |
Very impressive research, thank you AK.
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Awesome AK, keep the good work.
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I wonder one thing here:
http://business.avn.com/articles/leg...ds-480346.html "Navarro did grant a request by Oron that PayPal be allowed to continue processing payments for Oron.com, as long as Oron not be allowed to withdraw any of the funds while the court's TRO remains in effect." "Defendant asks this Court to release EUR 71.736,22 before July 1, 2012 from its PayPal account and to release EUR 277.109,07 before July 9, 2012 from its PayPal account in order to pay its third party provider LeaseWeb B.V" Why PayPal would continue processing payments for Oron (or any other merchant) after as a Judge freezes its assets? PayPal does not process for legal adult sites, eventually they will never admit it, but they think file sharing it is so popular (even openly, see pirate parties getting votes in Germany, and no any parent afraid if kids download disney movies), and so not damaging the PayPal brand as it is porn. In other words, my impression it is that PayPal will more likely drop file lockers if voices they support porn (illegal or not), more than pirated content. |
It's funny that your facebook group has all hot girls pics avatars...
LOL, classic 1000+ indian fake followers bought at black hat world. Just sayin. Looks very fake: http://stopfilelockers.com/ PIRIOD. |
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Good catch. They are all fake. They all have the same friends, and they all have identical music, books, television, and game preferences. What are the chances? :) |
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I think that the PayPal thing is a bluff from Oron to the Lawyers. I don't think these lawyers, based on what they state in papers, really know Oron.com's business model and I am under the impression that they thought PayPal was processing but its wasn't. I think that stopped back in January when Megaupload case started. Any, just my opinion... that the Oron lawyers are not experienced and informed as they should be, and that the Liberty lawyers know this business very well. I got all the court docs and will post links a bit later. |
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90% of males are quite dumb in that social network and use it to "TRY" to get LAID off FAKE Profiles. |
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You continue to sound like a total moron. Where did you buy your facebook likes from?? demand a refund at once. People are not trying to derail you, you're on track to becoming a total laughing stock to anyone with the slightest shred of sense. Stop going on about yourself, your private school 'old tie network' of powerful friends and being hatched out in Australia. None of these things are remarkable and some of them most would be ashamed of. Your complete personality is toe curling. Tubes are the issue, many people are telling you this, if you close every file locker (not you personally since i have little faith in some self important childlike egomaniac ) but if everyone one was closed will make litte to no difference to adult webmasters in terms of sales. If you are disgusted by CP then you need to get to the real culprits, filelockers need to be make to report and trace these people along with email groups, news groups etc etc. Any online form of storage can be a target for these kind of people, i do not agree with you that slamming any business that has had this uploaded to their service needs to be closed down because you say so. Don't make a blog with your step by step plan of how to avoid getting closed down, and the persons name at paypal you want fired for bringing into question why they would discuss this kind of thing with a person like yourself. |
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Simply stated, file lockers allow huge quantities of illegal porn to be archived, loads of media content from both porn producers and mainstream movie makers. People don't care usually if something doesn't effect them. It doesn't help if someone derails a piracy thread saying that their stuff is micro niche therefore nobody looks at it except keywords in the search engine or how large the files are in the members are to discourage any downloaders from uploading. Mainstream producers could care less about the tubes that effect us so severely but file lockers they care about. Like anything else, argument can only make sense to a certain extent with individuals before you need to back away because your time is spent better else where, like taking action. |
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The real fans of the two pages will see the posts and reply to them, the fake indian made profiles will just sit there and do nothing until their accounts progressively get closed off by facebook. |
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As stated above, if you want to volunteer to weed out the fake from real profiles who have liked the page then please feel free. |
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