In this thread, where have I stated that I believe God killed babies?

As for God still existing, yes I do believe that. The existence of God is what we are discussing here.

So you read 19,000 books (about the bible alone) or just lied or deceived people into thinking that you did? Isn't that some type of sin. I'm not sure on the exist paragraph in the bible I would find that in, but sure there is something wrong with this statement.

So you don't believe God killed those babies in Egypt? The bible fucking lied?

What I believe about that story is of no relevance to this thread. Whether or not I love God is of no relevance. Nor is it relevant whether or not God is evil. This thread discusses whether or not God exists. The complexity of the universe is good evidence for the existence of God.

I disagree with that. If anything they took advantage of the people that worshiped the sun for returning everyday

I'm now more of a deist after watching my father die a slow painful 30 day death from cancer. He was a good man deserved better. It killed my faith.

No, it's really not. It's silly. If you take infinity into account and the fact that we do exist it's just a random chance that applies to physics. We will also cease to exist one day and then probably one day IN INFINITY exist once again.

It's sad but it's really that simple.

Nothing about human existence proves their is a God, even slightly except we are so desperate to understand ourselves that we had to make one up back when our minds were that simple.

Ok lets take the amtrack test. We meet on some train tracks, you use jesus to survive, just stand there and pray. ill go with science, science tells me if I get the fuck off the track I'll be fine. After I find where your head rolled off to we can discuss the results.

Or do you not have faith in your god? Cash the fuckin check your mouth writes.

Okay, I'm going to say my prayers now and go to bed LOL

What a stupid, stupid post.

If that ain't calling the kettle black LOL :1orglaugh

Okay,

Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the lord my soul to keep
If I day before I wake
I pray the lord my soul to take

Like I didn't go to Sunday School :winkwink:

Mouth writing checks your ass is afraid to cash? I've told I "just have to have faith".. Just have some faith jesus will be there for you? Why wouldnt he be? Your one of his children, You are a unique and special snowflake, you are precious, he will save you.

This post demonstrates your lack of knowledge of complexity. I'll give you one example:

Have you heard the story that states something along the lines of, "If you stuck a group of monkeys into a room and sat them down to peck away on typewriters, given enough time they'd write out the complete works of Shakespeare." ?

Mathematically, it has been proven that even for one of those monkeys to type out one SONNET he would need more years than there are atoms in the entire UNIVERSE. The universe, as dated by scientists, hasn't existed that long. And if that's not long enough for a monkey to type a sonnet, it's definitely not long enough for life to exist as we know it. That is why the likes of multiverse theory has arisen. Multiverse theory is much harder to swallow than an intelligent First Cause.

He has the Free Will to stand there....or move.
?It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test."

No, my friend, it is not. His example is stupid because free will has already been covered. I'd have the free will to allow myself to be killed by a train. That has nothing to do with God's existence.

Really? Monkey's typing Shakespeare? That's what you're going with? Holy shit. I can see clearly now, praise jebus.

Your ignorance is showing. The Infinite Monkey Theorem is a well known example used by atheists. Google it.

Really? You are comparing monkey's typing shakespeare (which is actually monkeys typing some type of novel) within a limited lifetime, to infinity?

You do realize we do exist, right? Even if there is no God, right? I don't even want to get into the multiverse theories or any other theories with anyone who doesn't think their isn't a chance that there is no god, so that pretty much settles that...

Something to think about

How come adults stop believing in Santa but not all stop believing in Gods? Santa has thousands of books and songs too. This is bullshit. SAVE SANTA!!!

No credible scientist gives the universe a dating of "infinity years", my friend. Even the highest number of years that has been credibly proposed does not allow for enough time for us to reach the complexity required for our existence. It's just not mathematically possible.

An infinite amount of monkeys with an infinite amount of typewriters could write the complete words of Shakespeare is the example

Donny what could make you become an Atheist? What would have to happen to change your mind?

I've already been there: I was an atheist at one point in my life. I decided to follow the evidence to where it leads. Modern science has provided evidence that clearly points to an intelligent First Cause.

But it hasn't.

An atheist would become a NON atheist if gods presented themselves.

So how can gods never presenting themselves keep you a believer??

That's pretty much what I was saying, except that it will start over again. Unless of course you believe in God. Then it can't of course.

God would make things a bit finite

hahah, yeah ok. So... who's got it right? You, the jews, or the muslims? Who would win in a street fight? God or Allah?

The evidence :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm sorry I can't take that. What evidence even remotely shows there is a God?

What's your thoughts on the majority of the most elite Scientists are non-believers

You miss something: even if the universe kept expanding and contracting on itself, starting over and over again, there has not been enough time in THIS version of the universe for the complexities of our existence.

Which scientists are we talking about? Biologists or physicists? Because biologists don't really study complexity, and there are a lot of physicists who believe in the existence of God. FYI: Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin both believed God exists.

Again, this thread discusses the existence of God. The various versions of stories that claim to tell God's story have no relevance on whether or not God exists.

Obviously the ones that study the "modern science that clearly points to First Cause" you mentioned numb nuts. Not just any scientists.

That's complete crap. Cause we do exist and if you have any education at all, you know we are really not that complex. Only on ourselves and until we reach the next level, like maybe studying the brain and stuff.

We are now growing body parts. How less complex do you want us to be?

You love this witch doctor shit, but it is complete crap.

Have you been paying attention at all in this thread? I've listed several pieces of evidence that points to the existence of God. Complexity being one of them.

Then what does it even matter. You are pulling your own God out of your ass and wanting us all to worship him. I don't get it.

Complexity is not evidence. Nor is anything you mentioned.

Haha! Good question :winkwink:

Ask Donny. Doesnt matter what religion, really. I was just using a modern example.

"we are really not that complex"
^^^ That is probably one of the most ignorant things you've written in your entire life. Study the complexity of even a single cell. Study the complexity of an eyeball. Study the complexity of just about any life form whatsoever.

this is all ambiguous bullshit. complexity in your own personal eyes doesn't make something complex and doesn't prove there is a God even if it were actually complex.