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Overload · 03-15-2011, 08:39 AM

"what we learn from history - is that we dont learn from history"

USA = 15 more nuclear power plants are planned
(wasnt 3 mile island in 1979 warning enuff?)
CHINA = 40 more nuclear power plants are planned
(serious, do ya think they'd leak ANY info if THEY had a meltdown?)
and you can hear them repeat all over "OUR reactors
are SAFE!" thats what the japs thot as well and where
do they head now?

on the other hand i am amazed the germans took several
NPPs off the grid now - temporary i guess, but its a sign
(coff, mostly to fool ppl for the next election period i think,
but hey, it is a step in the right direction

)

its all about money ... but think about it ... your kids can
suffer from genetical deseases in polluted areas ... do ya
think money cud make them happy again? NO! do ya think
money can help make polluted areas re-habitable again? NO!

harrisburg, sellafield, 3 mile island, chernobyl to name only a
few ... when will nations support GREEN TECHNOLOGY with
billions in credits?!

CaptainHowdy · 03-15-2011, 08:44 AM

I like the idea of failing better ...

Rochard · 03-15-2011, 08:46 AM

Obviously you didn't live in California in the late 1990s when the power company couldn't produce enough power to keep the fucking lights on. We had rolling black outs, meaning for a few hours each day we had no power. You would walk into a grocery store and it would be dark inside because they shut off most of the lights to conserve power.

It seems to me no matter what it is, people will bitch. Your talking about green technology, but the moment I put solar panels up on my roof someone will complain. It's already happened with a house a few blocks over - they put up solar panels, everyone is complaining, and they are considering legal options to force them to remove it.

Overload · 03-15-2011, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

It seems to me no matter what it is, people will bitch. Your talking about green technology, but the moment I put solar panels up on my roof someone will complain. It's already happened with a house a few blocks over - they put up solar panels, everyone is complaining, and they are considering legal options to force them to remove it.

only in america

Grapesoda · 03-15-2011, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Obviously you didn't live in California in the late 1990s when the power company couldn't produce enough power to keep the fucking lights on. We had rolling black outs, meaning for a few hours each day we had no power. You would walk into a grocery store and it would be dark inside because they shut off most of the lights to conserve power.

It seems to me no matter what it is, people will bitch. Your talking about green technology, but the moment I put solar panels up on my roof someone will complain. It's already happened with a house a few blocks over - they put up solar panels, everyone is complaining, and they are considering legal options to force them to remove it.

Richard there was enough power... it was market manipulation by Enron to make money

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/enr...ts-traders-say

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron#C... nergy_crisis

MaDalton · 03-15-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Obviously you didn't live in California in the late 1990s when the power company couldn't produce enough power to keep the fucking lights on. We had rolling black outs, meaning for a few hours each day we had no power. You would walk into a grocery store and it would be dark inside because they shut off most of the lights to conserve power.

It seems to me no matter what it is, people will bitch. Your talking about green technology, but the moment I put solar panels up on my roof someone will complain. It's already happened with a house a few blocks over - they put up solar panels, everyone is complaining, and they are considering legal options to force them to remove it.

i just read 5 mins. ago that California has at least 5 nuclear plants in areas with a 99% probability of heavy earthquakes... but obviously everyone needs his own catastrophe first before they learn

dyna mo · 03-15-2011, 08:58 AM

your diatribe falls on deaf ears when think you are so better/smarter than everyone that 4 days after the biggest natural disasters of our lifetimes and you're already using the tragedy to point fingers at america and say "my way is best" all while calling japanese "the japs".

not a very class act.

Kiopa_Matt · 03-15-2011, 08:59 AM

Well, instead of bitching about nuclear, come up with a better energy source then.

The Heron · 03-15-2011, 09:28 AM

Maybe if you spelled a bit better and didn't type like a 12 year old girl I'd care what you think... but probably not.

dyna mo · 03-15-2011, 09:48 AM

modern day hiroshima

MaDalton · 03-15-2011, 10:16 AM

Google Translation

Quote:

Natural gas as a bridging technology

Therefore, we need a bridge technology, but not nuclear power, but the risk-and low-emission fuel source should be natural gas: Here we have for many decades, sufficient resources (for the total worldwide potential is of conventional natural gas, according to the Federal Institute for Geosciences and Natural Resources at 466 Terakubikmetern ), with Russia a long-term, predictable suppliers (even in the height of the cold war) and also additional resources from Central Asia, Azerbaijan, Iraq (Kurdistan) and later Iran. So we have a considerable scope for diversification of natural gas (as opposed to one hundred percent dependent on imports of uranium), which the EU should press ahead with a clear commitment to the Nabucco pipeline quickly and decisively.

In addition, as the world market increased liquefied natural gas (LNG) from North Africa and the Persian Gulf are available, not to mention the enormous resources at the "unconventional gas" such as shale gas, in which the gas in coal beds, porous sand layers or undersea methane hydrates geological storage, which has revolutionized the power supply in the U.S. and Canada already.

DISPLAY
The gas technology is known, controlled and cautious, so it is the ideal backbone for the development of renewable energies. The modern gas-fired power plants can rapidly and flexibly to the power fluctuations, such as wind and solar energy to adapt.

And in the future it will be possible from renewable sources by electrolysis to produce hydrogen. In a second step, from the hydrogen and carbon dioxide, methane, formed the main component of conventional natural gas. This can solve the storage problem of renewable energy sources and use the existing natural gas infrastructure. This complements the natural expansion of renewable energies.

The alternatives to a life extensions are not, as we were told last year, unrealistic and uncompetitive mills romantic, but an energy strategy that rests on the pillars of development of renewable energy, efficiency, network development and gas.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutsc...751036,00.html

03-15-2011, 08:39 AM	#1
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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,911	your diatribe falls on deaf ears when think you are so better/smarter than everyone that 4 days after the biggest natural disasters of our lifetimes and you're already using the tragedy to point fingers at america and say "my way is best" all while calling japanese "the japs". not a very class act.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,911	modern day hiroshima