Decorated Republican Elector Vows To Vote Against Donald Trump

I am not sure how it works....i thought he was put in place to follow the wishes of those he serves? as in the people who voted. is he saying he doesn't need to follow those wishes and will do anything he wants?

The Founders wrote the Constitution's 12th amendment for a reason. To deny the presidency to a Demagogue.

Some states have passed illegal laws that "force" the elector to vote the same as the majority, which is against the 12th amendment.

"Backers of Hamilton Electors are also preparing a wave of lawsuits challenging 29 state laws that purport to bind electors to the results of the statewide popular vote. These laws have never been enforced or tested, and many constitutional scholars believe they conflict with the Founders? vision of the Electoral College as a deliberative body. Courtroom victories, they hope, will embolden other electors to join their cause."

Rogue electors brief Clinton camp on anti-Trump plan - POLITICO

The US Constitution doesn't require EC electors to vote for any specific person...they can vote for the winner of their state, or someone else.

There are some states that have fines for those that vote against the wishes of the people, but my understanding is that the fines are pretty small and they have never actually been handed out to anyone.

A glimmer of hope ?

Long shot. Even though I know you'd love for this to come true I'm not really sure you would. Electoral map is Red in farmland USA where I can't drive for 5 minutes off the expressway without seeing a pro-gun sign in a farmers field. Don't think it would pan out well if it was overturned as think the violence would be much much worse than the protests we've already seen. I personally don't own a gun but just the thought of what one of my buddies who was a sniper in desert storm would do scares me, let's just say the contents of his garage would scare Rambo. You can post an occasional link now to a single whackjob Trump supporter that locks and loads now but if shit was overturned it wouldn't just be one occasional guy we'd need 2 Brass Monkey Death News Networks.

Generally speaking they should vote according to the wishes of the people of their state. There is no requirement to do so. It is rare for them to do this, however.

Good one

Its not just one Elite elector, 3 others have quit rather than vote Trump. Many others have been meeting and discussing an anti-Trump vote strategy. Some are saying this guy volunteered to go public to see the publics reaction and gauge their next move.

The electoral college decides the election on December 19th. Trump lost the election to Clinton by over 2.5 million votes. What would be overturned by them voting Clinton the winner on the 19th? Nothing

I think the Republicans threatening to terrorize, shoot & blow up stuff really shows how much they hate freedom and the majority voting Clinton for POTUS. Terroristic threats if you don't vote for our guy against the will of the majority of Americans. See how that looks?

Very noble. But what's the alternative to Trump?

What if both candidates are Demagogues?

I'm sorry but you sheeple don't get it when it's so obvious. The people you vote for are chosen for you by people who don't give a fuck about you.





These are the people who are moving your jobs, companies, profits, money out of the US to make themselves wealthier, while making you poorer.





It's done for a fraction of the costs in other places.

In the UK we have politicians opposing the results of a referendum. The whole thing is in the Supreme Court and if they say it goes through Parliament. Politicians can make Brexit impossible. Which is what the people want and increasingly the people of Europe want.

A wise man once said, "Can't stump the Trump." Which is true and I just don't see why people keep thinking that they can stump The God Emperor.

Nice link to fake news BTW, OP.

The election was based on electoral votes for both of the candidates. So they both went out with the same rules and did their thing and Trump won with less money, less good press and his own party against him. This would be fact.

You seem to have a comprehension problem or just straight trolling as he didn't lose shit as the election was never based on go out and get the popular vote.

Rewind the clock and tell them both to go get the popular vote and he would have just pulled up...

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li..._by_population

and just started from the top of the most populous states and worked down meaning he would have spent all his time in big cities and wouldn't have gone and talked to a crowd that contained 200 people and 3 donkeys in it in farmland USA. He did that cause it's based on electoral so he understood the objective more than her along with being underrated as he doesn't stand a chance to win cause the media says so. So now you sit there in shock like pathetic losers wondering how he pulled it off and look for tampering fraud excuses. We'll the people came out and said fuck your polls were tired of career crooked politicians. I'm sure some votes weren't huge Trump supporters but more of anyone but Hillary.

Not like it was a 270 to 269 win, they both were given the same rules and he went out and kicked her ass. Even if it was 270 to 269 I'd still call it kicking her ass as he shouldn't have stood a chance but that's what happens when people get tired of the same old bullshit and you underrate someone. I'd be embarrassed to say I voted for Hillary after this ass whooping.

He is straight stupid. And he is not trolling on this one, he genuinely thinks Trump "lost" because he lost the popular vote which neither of the candidates targeted.

As stupid as it gets

Nincompoop OP is like a Bird with a Broken Wing Dancing around the nest trying to Fly

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I often wonder if he believes this or is just trolling.

Just out of curiosity, if the situation were exactly flipped and Hillary won a slight victory in the Electoral College, but Trump won the popular vote, would you be hoping for the electors to switch to Trump?

Just trying to decide if it is the Electoral College you are more angry with or Trump.

Hard to Fathom

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U.S. Constitution

12th Amendment
Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves ;

they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate ;

--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted ;

--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed ;

and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote ;

a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President ;

a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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Not seeing the point, Constitution Has Been Followed... As it stands now he won the Popular vote by 6.5 Million+ votes

Won't do any good to see it increase to 20 Million, Unless to Rub your Nose in it

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Trump won the popular vote by 6.5 million votes? Pass me a bit of whatever you are smoking.

Talk about gettin' hit with the stupid stick :0P

by won he means lost by 3M votes...and it absolutely kills him on the inside

Final Popular Vote Total Almost Done: Clinton Lead Swells to 2.7 million

"The extraordinary vote margin in favor of Clinton leaves Trump as the elected president most thoroughly rejected by American voters since Rutherford B. Hayes in the election of 1876."

Good to know 538 people decide the president and not the 120 million or so who voted

You're right, I tend to Under-state... it's 7.5+ million votes
Your life-long "We care for you" Friends in the MSM won't tell you this because, well, then they wouldn't have any Fuel for you to bitch about

...Old, Tired, and Failed

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Why, So you can reap the benefits without being bound by the rules? More Fun Playing the MSM game... Watch em' squirm and Beg

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ah so made up then.

...so you're a crazy person...noted.

He's a fake nic that only posts lies & hate. The loser behind it is clearly a cowardly scum.

The electoral college is an outdated concept. Gore won the popular vote against Bush and depending on who you ask, Hillary won the popular vote. I applaud the guy for having some balls

Facts aren't negotiable. Trump himself tweeted and admitted he didnt win the vote and said if he had wanted to he would have.

Amazing. Good, good good.