I can't wait to see what they come back with now that the AK thing is done. I'm pretty confident they could make some great money in this industry when they refocus that energy
OK, so that post on the antipiracy forum by NukePiracy really turned the tables for me.
I was laughing out loud throughout this thread, even better than the original 'assault' thread against AK, but when Johnny posted their bullshit on the last page, at least for me, really showed their true colors.
Coming after the "GFY-Bro" club & "it's" users (I've been here since 2001 actually) is quite comical since their original thread was posted with such a serious tone against AK. The screencap a few posts back is totally childish, and everyone who was privy to their original thread I think would agree. The 'staff' at Nuke got off to an interesting start in the original (now deleted) thread, with some good points, mind you, but then of course, it all took a hard left, and crashed into a cul-de-sac with flames, bodies, explosions and shit.
To go posting on the other forum the way they did is just going to make the stove a bit hotter I think. Many more blisters..
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OK, so that post on the antipiracy forum by NukePiracy really turned the tables for me.....To go posting on the other forum the way they did is just going to make the stove a bit hotter I think. Many more blisters..
I think it was a knee jerk reaction and I'm sure it will be deleted in a day or two. When you're in overdrive researching, posting, responding, and researching again, it takes a little time to adjust to the new reality that your mission is complete. It will sink in that they've done everything they needed to, they'll regroup, refocus, and move on to something financially productive 2015 the year of the $$$$$$
I really don't want to engage with these idiots however even as far back as when they joined it was pretty obvious what their agenda was.
Originally posted by NukePiracy
I have only ever spoken to you as AntiWarez aka WD someone who also built up a reputation in the piracy world for being highly trusted and as such given intel of the highest levels, I shall admit to hacking I have this gay shit called Explosive Anger Disorder, it means when I get mad nothing stops me.
Originally posted by NukePiracy
...we have much bigger honeypots including one of the biggest and oldest warez sites alive today having a database of close to 60GB as of typing this.
Simply put, I just don't get these guys. One theory someone canvassed internally was that their plan was to get as close to the SFL project as possible and then do a double cross in order to be re-accepted into the warez/piracy scene on WJunction from where they were both banned. However we'll never really know their true motives or why they're so persistent and angry.
From my perspective they've never shown themselves to be anti piracy at all, merely anti Stop File Lockers. I don't get it, however now they are threatening to DOX many members of GFY, which is exactly the kind of thing hackers do to each other, it's pretty childish stuff.
Holy shit all of those guys were annoying... WDF, nukepiracy, friendsfornow... all of them sub-par intellectuals, insulting, disruptive, and please do not remove their bans.
I'm trying to find some good threads on here and the threads by the three above (and all of there posts) were by far the most annoying and actually made this entire board look like it was not a place to make anything happen.
I really don't want to engage with these idiots however even as far back as when they joined it was pretty obvious what their agenda was.
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Simply put, I just don't get these guys. One theory someone canvassed internally was that their plan was to get as close to the SFL project as possible and then do a double cross in order to be re-accepted into the warez/piracy scene on WJunction from where they were both banned. However we'll never really know their true motives or why they're so persistent and angry.
From my perspective they've never shown themselves to be anti piracy at all, merely anti Stop File Lockers. I don't get it, however now they are threatening to DOX many members of GFY, which is exactly the kind of thing hackers do to each other, it's pretty childish stuff.
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Yes, that's true. But, IMO, for all the lurkers here, I would think it might [finally] be time to address the many 'others' here who have expressed the same concerns about you when shit hit the fan in the thread. Others who do have some clout and had good questions.
I know, and others know, you were reading that thread all along. Why don't you - for the sake of rep-spect, explain a little so that outsiders can understand what all the fuck shit was about?
The one thing I know is that that thread put some cards on the table, and it might be a good idea to put an end to all the drama surrounding you.
Why not. It's a New Year.
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Yes, that's true. But, IMO, for all the lurkers here, I would think it might [finally] be time to address the many 'others' here who have expressed the same concerns about you when shit hit the fan in the thread. Others who do have some clout and had good questions.
Someone posted a link to the AVN interview I did in 2012 which should answer most people's questions. If it doesn't then all of this rehashed nonsense has been addressed time and time again in the Killing off File Lockers thread.
Out of the Stop File Lockers project both Copy Control and more importantly Adult IP were formed. Adult IP is a representative body for rights holders and other stake holders in the copyright protection and mitigation field. We have large adult producers, DMCA agents and so on as members and they are the people that I answer to, not the trolls on GFY.
The Killing off File Lockers thread has been a place where I have reported progress on that singular project which is one of many projects Adult IP is now running, I'll keep posting updates as appropriate and anyone who wants to get involved further is welcome to become a member of Adult IP and participate in the confidential aspects of the work we do.
The guys who were recently banned were asking questions about what, who and where we shut down sites and unfortunately for them we just don't disclose that stuff - for a simple reason. If I post that we shut down site AAAAAA.COM and the owners of AAAAAA.COM work backward through what happened to them, then someone may reverse engineer what we actually do and then loose canons like NukePiracy or WDF may use that against the project and in doing so reduce the potential for our strategies to keep working.
Think of the Killing off File Lockers thread as a brief overview of what's going on with that project, don't think of it as a comprehensive run down of our activities.
Yes, that's true. But, IMO, for all the lurkers here, I would think it might [finally] be time to address the many 'others' here who have expressed the same concerns about you when shit hit the fan in the thread. Others who do have some clout and had good questions.
I know, and others know, you were reading that thread all along. Why don't you - for the sake of rep-spect, explain a little so that outsiders can understand what all the fuck shit was about?
The one thing I know is that that thread put some cards on the table, and it might be a good idea to put an end to all the drama surrounding you.
Why not. It's a New Year.
Hi... I haven't seen a damn thing from dig420 about his thieving practices posted in this thread yet Nuke, WDF, and friendsfornow all gave him open arms with new found support.
How about that... real pirates, doing real pirate stuff, being supported by the now banned self proclaimed anti pirates?
You know something... I just joined this board and I can't for the life of me figure out what in the hell WDF or Nuke was talking about? Was it previous sites owned by AK with a link in the footer that went to bad places? I honestly have no idea except the dudes from nuke piracy are the most annoying online individuals I have ever read online.
Hi... I haven't seen a damn thing from dig420 about his thieving practices posted in this thread yet Nuke, WDF, and friendsfornow all gave him open arms with new found support.
What is even more interesting that a noob is well versed in all of this stuff and is now commenting on years of history.
What is even more interesting that a noob is well versed in all of this stuff and is now commenting on years of history.
I was thinking the exact same thing - especially since the owner's domain points to an Apache Test page. But I'm guessing that the "Bros" know this, and let'um in anyways just for comedic value to see where it goes.
:: Also, a very nice response above & well articulated. Summarized nicely.
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I was thinking the exact same thing - especially since the owner's domain points to an Apache Test page. But I'm guessing that the "Bros" know this, and let'um in anyways just for comedic value to see where it goes.
:: Also, a very nice response above & well articulated. Summarized nicely.
I was thinking the exact same thing - especially since the owner's domain points to an Apache Test page. But I'm guessing that the "Bros" know this, and let'um in anyways just for comedic value to see where it goes.
:: Also, a very nice response above & well articulated. Summarized nicely.
Someone posted a link to the AVN interview I did in 2012 which should answer most people's questions. If it doesn't then all of this rehashed nonsense has been addressed time and time again in the Killing off File Lockers thread.
Out of the Stop File Lockers project both Copy Control and more importantly Adult IP were formed. Adult IP is a representative body for rights holders and other stake holders in the copyright protection and mitigation field. We have large adult producers, DMCA agents and so on as members and they are the people that I answer to, not the trolls on GFY.
The Killing off File Lockers thread has been a place where I have reported progress on that singular project which is one of many projects Adult IP is now running, I'll keep posting updates as appropriate and anyone who wants to get involved further is welcome to become a member of Adult IP and participate in the confidential aspects of the work we do.
The guys who were recently banned were asking questions about what, who and where we shut down sites and unfortunately for them we just don't disclose that stuff - for a simple reason. If I post that we shut down site AAAAAA.COM and the owners of AAAAAA.COM work backward through what happened to them, then someone may reverse engineer what we actually do and then loose canons like NukePiracy or WDF may use that against the project and in doing so reduce the potential for our strategies to keep working.
Think of the Killing off File Lockers thread as a brief overview of what's going on with that project, don't think of it as a comprehensive run down of our activities.
Good to hear your side of the story too.
Those guys who just got banned also posted a number of interesting screenshots and WHOIS info which showed (or claimed) that you run illegal piracy forums and tubes yourself. Is it true that you are the owner of such sites?
Yes... you would love to see that. Unfortunately I can't this year, but you have found a new voice on here lately. I've been reading gfy for a long time and never seen you so vocal... what's up? Anything bothering you?
Those guys who just got banned also posted a number of interesting screenshots and WHOIS info which showed (or claimed) that you run illegal piracy forums and tubes yourself. Is it true that you are the owner of such sites?
Zyber, good to see someone come out of the woodwork from 2001 and only 870+ posts. I knew I wasn't the only one. This was just my point. There are people here who lean certain ways and just lurk, and the drama with AK was just a curious thought given the screencaps and such.
I'd like to (still) see a bit more of an answer, just as was posed by the banned 3 musketeers.
I need a shot.
This shit really starts the New Year off right.
Squirt, your responses make me laugh dude. Funny shit.
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Those guys who just got banned also posted a number of interesting screenshots and WHOIS info which showed (or claimed) that you run illegal piracy forums and tubes yourself. Is it true that you are the owner of such sites?
The so called piracy forum is a brand new affiliate forum which hasn't been launched yet. It's open for affiliates of pay sites to join and post threads with their affiliate links. It allows non affiliate webmasters to reply to posts and no links to illegal tubes or file lockers are allowed. I plan on launching it in March. Porn Forums
Yes... you would love to see that. Unfortunately I can't this year, but you have found a new voice on here lately. I've been reading gfy for a long time and never seen you so vocal... what's up? Anything bothering you?
You tease! & no bothering , I'm the most laid back chill muthafucka you know
Yes, that's true. But, IMO, for all the lurkers here, I would think it might [finally] be time to address the many 'others' here who have expressed the same concerns about you when shit hit the fan in the thread. Others who do have some clout and had good questions.
I know, and others know, you were reading that thread all along. Why don't you - for the sake of rep-spect, explain a little so that outsiders can understand what all the fuck shit was about?
The one thing I know is that that thread put some cards on the table, and it might be a good idea to put an end to all the drama surrounding you.
Why not. It's a New Year.
I have to agree "AK" does seem to have some questions that should be answered.
Even if only to clear the air, I can't see anyone wanting to read the full 150+ pages of a thread.
So I'll make the same deal with AK as I made with Nuke Privacy.
Post a simple explanation or given time in the not so distant future I will not only be looking into them but also you.
As I said to them I will also say to you... You are free to take this as a threat or as an opportunity to tell your story... In the end your choice will will say something in and of itself.
To be 100% clear I'm not asking about how you do what you do or your methods... There is a question of some site you own/owned that seem to suggest playing both sides of the issue.
I have to agree "AK" does seem to have some questions that should be answered.
Even if only to clear the air, I can't see anyone wanting to read the full 150+ pages of a thread.
So I'll make the same deal with AK as I made with Nuke Privacy.
Post a simple explanation or given time in the not so distant future I will not only be looking into them but also you.
As I said to them I will also say to you... You are free to take this as a threat or as an opportunity to tell your story... In the end your choice will will say something in and of itself.
Yes please, and can you cut up some hot dogs and put them in .. Oh and a little cheese on top... That would hit the spot.
Can I also get a Capt and Redbull with that order...
So your sites are/were basically honeypots to gather intelligence and evidence. Sting operations are always a tricky issue to defend, so I understand the initial confusion.
Good luck with your collection of paper trail. Hopefully this will some day lead into an effective "Stop the tubes" campaign. Although that is a very tough cookie as MindGeek is already quite powerful in our industry.
So your sites are/were basically honeypots to gather intelligence and evidence. Sting operations are always a tricky issue to defend, so I understand the initial confusion.
Good luck with your collection of paper trail. Hopefully this will some day lead into an effective "Stop the tubes" campaign. Although that is a very tough cookie as MindGeek is already quite powerful in our industry.
Is running s honeypot site legal though? Can I go set up a torrent site as a honey pot? Is that legal?
So your sites are/were basically honeypots to gather intelligence and evidence. Sting operations are always a tricky issue to defend, so I understand the initial confusion.
Good luck with your collection of paper trail. Hopefully this will some day lead into an effective "Stop the tubes" campaign. Although that is a very tough cookie as MindGeek is already quite powerful in our industry.
It doesn't explain all the sites and the information about the past that he posted....
Also "getting taken back by the warez community" sounds a bit weird... He could just create a new name and be in LOL
Is running s honeypot site legal though? Can I go set up a torrent site as a honey pot? Is that legal?
Of course not - the very purpose of doing it makes it clear that you know it's not legal and you can't claim safe harbor. Adult King got busted time and time again. He's a sick douchebag just as bad as the other guys. He is a weak, self important, self aggrandizing jack off that has stated time and time again that he is not going to be held accountable or answer questions, all while he acts as a self appointed judge, jury and executioner. He's just as fucked in the head as the guys who got banned are.
. Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.
Probably not legal. Unless you work for law enforcement in a jurisdiction where entrapment is an allowed practice.
So why is AK not banned? He was breaking the LAW. It doesn't matter if he has good intention(I don't believe the honeypot story but whatever.), what he was doing is wrong.
AK's tube got DMCa'd and he did not respond. How do you think those content owners feel?
(If AK has a response to this I guarantee you, it's going to be that i'm the biggest pirate around. lol Will wait and see.)
Of course not - the very purpose of doing it makes it clear that you know it's not legal and you can't claim safe harbor. Adult King got busted time and time again. He's a sick douchebag just as bad as the other guys. He is a weak, self important, self aggrandizing jack off that has stated time and time again that he is not going to be held accountable or answer questions, all while he acts as a self appointed judge, jury and executioner. He's just as fucked in the head as the guys who got banned are.
You have a way with words. Sometimes it's just wondrous to read
Thanks for the thorough explanation.
So your sites are/were basically honeypots to gather intelligence and evidence. Sting operations are always a tricky issue to defend, so I understand the initial confusion.
No they weren't honeypots. The term "honeypot" is what WDF & Nukepiracy labeled them as.
All they were was a set of eight standard everyday tube aggregation sites using tube affiliate programs. Many people on this forum run as few as one to as many as hundreds of the things.
All we were doing was running eight of these sites using different affiliate programs and tallying up what was pirated and what wasn't while creating a paper trail of the affiliate connection between our sites and the tube operators. This was in order to demonstrate that the tube operators don't just supply licensed content to affiliates but also pirated content.
Originally posted by Creatine
Is running s honeypot site legal though? Can I go set up a torrent site as a honey pot? Is that legal?
No it's not legal and doing that is completely different from what we were doing.
Originally posted by Zyber
Probably not legal. Unless you work for law enforcement in a jurisdiction where entrapment is an allowed practice.
Correct, however the sites were not honeypots, they were normal garden variety tube affiliate sites with content delivered by the tube affiliate program and embedded on the source tube.
Originally posted by Due
It doesn't explain all the sites and the information about the past that he posted....
Also "getting taken back by the warez community" sounds a bit weird... He could just create a new name and be in LOL
I've never been a part of the warez community so I don't know where you got that idea from.
Originally posted by TheSquealer
Of course not - the very purpose of doing it makes it clear that you know it's not legal and you can't claim safe harbor. Adult King got busted time and time again. He's a sick douchebag just as bad as the other guys. He is a weak, self important, self aggrandizing jack off that has stated time and time again that he is not going to be held accountable or answer questions, all while he acts as a self appointed judge, jury and executioner. He's just as fucked in the head as the guys who got banned are.
You're entitled to your opinion.
Originally posted by Creatine
So why is AK not banned? He was breaking the LAW. It doesn't matter if he has good intention(I don't believe the honeypot story but whatever.), what he was doing is wrong.
If you want to ban me for running eight tube affiliate sites then you'll also want to ban a good proportion of GFY members, many people run these tube affiliate sites. They are common practice.
Many tubes license a great deal of content and many also cut deals with content producers. It is possible for tubes to only deliver licensed and authorised material to affiliates and this is a situation we wanted to work to bring about.
AK's tube got DMCa'd and he did not respond. How do you think those content owners feel?
Actually the sites themselves received no DMCA notices. The DMCA notice issued was issued to Google to remove a few pages from Google search. Had we received a DMCA notice directly we would have taken down the content and then contacted the rights holder to explain what we were doing.
(If AK has a response to this I guarantee you, it's going to be that i'm the biggest pirate around. lol Will wait and see.)
We have no wish to stop the tubes from running affiliate programs, all we want is for the tubes to stop supplying unauthorised content to affiliates. Some pretty big companies, some who advertise on this forum. What we do want to see is them only supplying affiliates with licensed content or authorised content. We'd also like sites like XVideos to start playing ball because it's one of the worst tubes when it comes to piracy.
For the first 18 months of running the Stop File Lockers project people complained we weren't dealing with the tube situation. Now that were are trying to deal with the tube situation by collecting reliable and usable data we're the bad guys for doing that also.
Tubes won't go away, but with enough pressure the pirated content can be reduced and it can be eliminated entirely from tube affiliate sites, this would be a great first step.
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