AzteK

Hello,

I've been wondering if sites can get plenty of search traffic by embedding the videos oppose to hosting the videos. I just keep thinking sites that actually host the video will outrank the embed sites. If anyone has any experience with this and would like to share some information it would be greatly appreciated.

TFCash

I have a handful of each type of sites that I use for feeders to my paysites. I've found that my hosted tubes do better with both SE traffic, as well as user interaction. They spend more time on site, and my bounce rate is much better when I host the videos, which is possibly why I do better with seo and get more SE traffic on hosted sites

The other thing that seems to make a huge difference is the amount of time spent on the pages, writing good titles and descriptions. After 30 - 60 days of spending more time on the words on my sites, I see steady growth. As oppose to when I just suck in 1000 videos and have the spinner create titles on the fly I think Google is smart enough to know that the sites using scrapers and text spinners aren't going to give the surfer what they are looking for any more!

I picked up a copy of Dragon Speech for my laptop, and I can crank out 20 videos an hour with good fresh titles, tags, categories and 250 word descriptions.

Good luck

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AzteK

Thank you for taking the time and explaining this to me. Last year I did a test between an embedded tube and a hosted tube and just like your findings, the bounce rate and pages/visit were much lower on the embedded tube.

I thought perhaps it's because the embedded videos were stealing my clicks. I was just checking out wp-script's theme and it looks like they've partially addressed this issue by allowing some embed's depending on what site, to be played with a custom HTML 5 player that doesn't show the hosts ads. I thought to myself that perhaps this would increase the pages per visit since there would be fewer leaks. This is something I'll probably test and see.

I couldn't agree with you more on creating unique titles and descriptions. The text that the scrapers pull has been used on thousands of sites. I wouldn't be surprised if Google doesn't do a checksum for a fingerprint on the videos to see if it's unique too.

I suppose embedding videos have less risk as far as not hosting the videos and keeping the costs down, however on the downside produces less traffic.

Cheers.

TFCash

I think that they have adapted to include a lot more in the embed since it's not making them as much money as it once use too.

The only issue there, at that point your actually stealing from them, since your not using their embed code, secondly when they change their code just a little bit, your scrapper goes bezerk and all of a sudden, none of your videos work any more. I've actually got a copy of the ken transformer that does the same thing, and I didn't see a huge up tick in SE traffic because of it. Bounce rate was also higher, most likely due to the fact that the script has to check with whichever tube your pulling from, grab the code, then filter out where the video url is and plug it in. So it takes longer to get the video streaming

True. When I'm pulling videos now, I make sure and use program channels so I'm pretty sure that the videos are meant for tubes from the programs. I also usually have the script re-master them to a set size, and cut them down to 5 to 6 min's each. I could never understand how people thought that giving out 20 min videos was a good idea, so I keep them under 6 min, I'd rather they click thru to the program site, than fap off to the free stuff all the time.

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