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Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 09:03 AM

NEWS: Porn Industry Concentrates on Video-Sharing Sites
 
Adult video companies are stepping up the fight against online piracy, but lawsuits against individuals swapping dirty videos via P2P no longer seem to be at the top of their list. Jason Tucker, head of a new anti-piracy company dedicated to adult content called The PAK Group, recently told the industry web site XBIZ (not safe for work) that lawsuits against individuals ?require ridiculous amounts of resources? and are unlikely to have a huge impact.

Tucker wants to concentrate on adult video-sharing sites instead. He told XBiz that his company is close to filing a lawsuit against one of these red-light versions of YouTube, and that other lawsuits could follow soon after. This isn?t the first time these sites have been targeted by the adult industry. Industry heavyweight Vivid sued PornoTube in December of 2007. While the lawsuit was often compared to Viacom suing Google, Tucker made clear that for the adult entertainment space, these lawsuits are hitting much closer to home: ?The big problem I see right now is not outsiders doing this; rather, it is people who purport to be contributing members in our industry,? he told XBIZ.

Video hosters like PornoTube have become a growing problem for the adult industry. The admittedly not always precise Alexa.com site ranking lists two of these sites in its Top 50, with YouPorn even beating Flickr.com. A majority of the sites are hosted in the U.S., and PornoTube is in fact operated by AEBN, one of the largest providers of online pay-per-view porn, providing companies like Playboy with branded pay sites.

U.S.-based X-rated YouTube knock-offs have been relying on the DMCA to shield themselves from copyright infringement and deal with takedown notices. Some in the industry have looked to the YouTube lawsuit to clear up whether video-sharing sites will remain legal, but others apparently don?t want to wait. Vivid also invoked a law requiring detailed documentation of adult performers to combat child porn in its lawsuit, stating that PornoTube violated the law by allowing anonymous uploads.

The fight about PornoTube & Co. is unlikely to change the fact that naughty videos are popular on many file-sharing platforms. The NPD group estimated back in 2006 that almost 60 percent of all videos swapped on P2P networks are porn. These numbers have prompted some in the industry to call for lawsuits against individuals. Gay porn company Titan Media filed a first round of lawsuits against bloggers that had published direct download links last October, and European porn companies have been suing a large number of individual file swappers for quite some time now.

Maybe it?s the questionable success of the music industry lawsuits against P2P users that have stopped U.S. adult entertainment companies from following up with their own lawsuit campaigns. The industry is clearly keeping an eye on the world of mainstream entertainment and its fight against piracy ? and the lesson seems to be to call for filters, not paychecks from college students. Said Tucker: ?MySpace and YouTube have cleaned up their act, so it can be done.?


Source: http://newteevee.com/2008/07/30/porn...-users-a-pass/

They are going to shut their own sites down? I doubt it :thumbsup

Iron Fist 07-31-2008 09:06 AM

Nothing wrong with Tube sites when you completely disable uploads and partner with sponsors on approved content....

The evolution continues.

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 14538974)
Nothing wrong with Tube sites when you completely disable uploads and partner with sponsors on approved content....

The evolution continues.

I tried both... guess what makes me more money at the end of the day? Those shaving sponsors that fuck my surfers with cross sales and shady billing tactics?
No thanks. I prefer to upload 20min+ clips, charge them through an offshore processor and fuck them over on my own.
Thats out of the box, isnt it?

kmanrox 07-31-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14539069)
I tried both... guess what makes me more money at the end of the day? Those shaving sponsors that fuck my surfers with cross sales and shady billing tactics?
No thanks. I prefer to upload 20min+ clips, charge them through an offshore processor and fuck them over on my own.
Thats out of the box, isnt it?

lolzzzzzz

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14539121)
lolzzzzzz

Itīs funny and sad in one way or another but you now iam right :winkwink:

cranki 07-31-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14539069)
I tried both... guess what makes me more money at the end of the day? Those shaving sponsors that fuck my surfers with cross sales and shady billing tactics?
No thanks. I prefer to upload 20min+ clips, charge them through an offshore processor and fuck them over on my own.
Thats out of the box, isnt it?

you charge them? there are actually people who pay to watch videos on tube sites?

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki (Post 14539284)
you charge them? there are actually people who pay to watch videos on tube sites?

Thereīs someone on GFY sending 100+ sales per pay period to brazzers from his tube.. :2 cents:

cranki 07-31-2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14539292)
Thereīs someone on GFY sending 100+ sales per pay period to brazzers from his tube.. :2 cents:

yeah, but then you're fucked by the sponsor again. Do YOU bill them directly?

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki (Post 14539313)
yeah, but then you're fucked by the sponsor again. Do YOU bill them directly?

What sponsor? Theres no sponsor beside a live cam sponsor. The whole content is "user submitted". Billing goes through my biller and not through sponsor-billing.

cranki 07-31-2008 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14539331)
What sponsor? Theres no sponsor beside a live cam sponsor. The whole content is "user submitted". Billing goes through my biller and not through sponsor-billing.

no, I meant the guy who sends 100+ sales to brazzers...

stickyfingerz 07-31-2008 10:03 AM

And everyone continues to allow full access to download all their members area videos for 27.00 a month or a 3.00 trial. lol Then try to go after the sites taking advantage of their generosity. :winkwink:

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14539380)
And everyone continues to allow full access to download all their members area videos for 27.00 a month or a 3.00 trial. lol Then try to go after the sites taking advantage of their generosity. :winkwink:

Trying to be smart? You dont even have to sign up for a site anymore. You guys never check the dark side of the biz. The password forums are full with tutorials, on how to get free content from sponsors. Remember the bangbros stuff... everyone and their mother was downloading content. This happends with other sponsors too, but since your all so smart you knew that allready right :winkwink:

LB-69 07-31-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14539380)
And everyone continues to allow full access to download all their members area videos for 27.00 a month or a 3.00 trial. lol Then try to go after the sites taking advantage of their generosity. :winkwink:

We dont, implemented DRM on 2 of our solo sites, sure we are losing some customers due to that, however we should draw the lines and start fighting free video distribution RIGHT NOW !

Jens Van Assterdam 07-31-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cranki (Post 14539356)
no, I meant the guy who sends 100+ sales to brazzers...

ICQ is in sig if you want to talk, iam not going to post the link here :2 cents:

Juilan 07-31-2008 10:31 AM

I have SharedPorn.com.

plsureking 07-31-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LB-69 (Post 14539426)
We dont, implemented DRM on 2 of our solo sites, sure we are losing some customers due to that, however we should draw the lines and start fighting free video distribution RIGHT NOW !

i hate it too. hated tgps back in the day too.

but u cant fight the market.

my baby gets what my baby wants..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-31-2008 10:40 AM

Well if anyone can do it, Tucker can.

stickyfingerz 07-31-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LB-69 (Post 14539426)
We dont, implemented DRM on 2 of our solo sites, sure we are losing some customers due to that, however we should draw the lines and start fighting free video distribution RIGHT NOW !

Are you doing a download type drm? If so switch to streaming (via cdn), if you want some info I can help point you in the right direction, and have a custom player right now that is almost completed that does some neat stuff to stop screencaptures.

stickyfingerz 07-31-2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam (Post 14539422)
Trying to be smart? You dont even have to sign up for a site anymore. You guys never check the dark side of the biz. The password forums are full with tutorials, on how to get free content from sponsors. Remember the bangbros stuff... everyone and their mother was downloading content. This happends with other sponsors too, but since your all so smart you knew that allready right :winkwink:

You think that is something I wasn't aware of? lmao There are measures that can be taken at a very inexpensive rate to stop that.

stickyfingerz 07-31-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 14539504)
i hate it too. hated tgps back in the day too.

but u cant fight the market.

my baby gets what my baby wants..

Has to be a huge push industry wide to change the members area model or it will just get WAY worse. :2 cents:

tucker 07-31-2008 11:31 AM

Looks there is nothing complicated about any of this;

Pay for the content you use. License the content you have. If you want/need a certain type of content, hit up the program, chances are they will just give it to you the way you want as long as you promote them. This is not that hard.

brandonstills 08-01-2008 12:44 AM

Interesting to see where this will go. It will either send a clear message that piracy won't be tolerated or for every 1 site taken down 2 sites will pop up that are twice as hard to take down.


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