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mrkris 08-30-2006 02:10 AM

2257 Idea?
 
Forgive the thread, but i'm a bit tired and after talking to toonpornblog about steganography, why not come up with a method of, hrm, encoding documentation into the images. Yeah, their would be certain issues, but the gov't could say ... hold a database of the known models and the image could just have the model ID encoded into the image to reference a DB. Many possibilities, affiliates would be protected because docs would be their available at any time.

Please, rant if you want, i don't care, i am tired and it happened to pop into my head. Discuss.

mikeyddddd 08-30-2006 02:15 AM

That makes too much sense to be implemented.

niceanice 08-30-2006 02:16 AM

thats an awesome idea

stickyfingerz 08-30-2006 02:18 AM

I like it in theory. If it could be implemented would be real good. Just so it couldnt be somehow abused by using the encrypted info from one pic being put onto another etc. If the process locked it in somehow it would work. :thumbsup

mrkris 08-30-2006 02:18 AM

I think it would work out well. If they encoded the ID or ID's into the image, the gov't could work from their desks and say, 'oh this image is watermarked as WeConvert but has no model ID encoded, time to raid them', instead of driving out saying, 'sup where are file cabinets'.

GrouchyAdmin 08-30-2006 02:22 AM

Of course, the nerdy implementation and stuff hasn't been discussed, but a UUID/GUID. consisting of vendor and 'arteest' could easily manage for the vast majority. I suppose you could use bits to signify shit, and just, of course, a salt held by the gubbermint.

Then again, I have been talking to mrkris for so long, my brains are oozing out my ears.

kmanrox 08-30-2006 02:36 AM

i like it... what would it take to get it going? sounds like it would take a lot to get some kind of official 'approval' though

GrouchyAdmin 08-30-2006 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox
i like it... what would it take to get it going? sounds like it would take a lot to get some kind of official 'approval' though

Well, here's where it gets a bit sticky. Not only do we need to embed it within the photo, better than my proof of concept which doesn't quite do what we're talking about, but it has to follow strict government guidelines.

The paperwork to embed the 2257 is probably only three or four pages.. for each picture. :/

GigoloMason 08-30-2006 02:41 AM

This was mentioned in the Q+A regarding the law. It was shot down. Keep in mind (the new) 2257 isn't intended to be practical it's intended to put us out of biz.

dcortez 08-30-2006 07:48 AM

2257 is NOT about protecting minors - it is a political tool.

As such, sensible ideas like yours are not relevant to those conjuring up these 'protection laws'.

JimmyStephans 08-30-2006 08:07 AM

Wouldn't we also have the issue of model privacy and protection?

Anybody with a copy of the image could decode the encrypted data and stalk the girl?

Teens broke the DVD encryption stuff in a few hours -- wouldn't somebody do it to this too?

mrkris 08-30-2006 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyStephans
Wouldn't we also have the issue of model privacy and protection?

Anybody with a copy of the image could decode the encrypted data and stalk the girl?

Teens broke the DVD encryption stuff in a few hours -- wouldn't somebody do it to this too?

Not if the gov't had a DB of models and the images only stored a model ID

stickyfingerz 08-30-2006 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris
Not if the gov't had a DB of models and the images only stored a model ID

That would be the thing there. You'd basically have to submit (hopefully electronically) to a government maintained database the info. Each picture or video would just contain a small id marker that points them to the file on the database for that particular model or models.

Grapesoda 08-30-2006 08:21 AM

hey NP . . come on by and encode about 8 terabytes of images for me . . thanks, I'll be waiting -bmb

crockett 08-30-2006 08:21 AM

It's a nice idea but it would be a very dangerous thing to do for privacy issues. You would have to assume that some 13 year old hacker would figure out how to break the encryption and then it would be all over the net.

mrkris 08-30-2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton
hey NP . . come on by and encode about 8 terabytes of images for me . . thanks, I'll be waiting -bmb

Any slower than doing docs by hand? Also, to do 8 TB, yeah, might take a while .... but if you can't afford a decent computer and you have 8TB content for your members, then your shit is fucked, bottom line.

Grapesoda 08-30-2006 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrkris
Any slower than doing docs by hand? Also, to do 8 TB, yeah, might take a while .... but if you can't afford a decent computer and you have 8TB content for your members, then your shit is fucked, bottom line.


I shoot for others, since 2000 . . I am the primary producer. my records are in perfect order . . . be best if you didn't deam up more work for me. -bmb

mrkris 08-30-2006 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wanton
I shoot for others, since 2000 . . I am the primary producer. my records are in perfect order . . . be best if you didn't deam up more work for me. -bmb

I'm sure a tool could be made to batch a set of images, but hey, the gov't is gonna do what they're gonna do, and no offense, if it works better to do this for all the affiliates and program owners, then hey, i'm not against you having more work, after all, YOU are the one takin the pics, not us affiliates or program owners.

LiveDose 08-30-2006 09:36 AM

The government doesn't want a system that works. They want a system that fucks a majority of webmasters.


8K.... yippee!

free4porn 08-30-2006 09:40 AM

interesting idea

Tom_PM 08-30-2006 09:44 AM

JPEG has pretty much always had provisions for adding text annotations and whatever into the headers. While it probably wouldnt fulfill any requirements, it might make life a bit easier somehow I guess.


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